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NCR: U.S. Guns, Not Obama, to Blame for Mexican Violence (Catholic publication)
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | February 15, 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 02/16/2014 1:42:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In the second installation of a three-part series on "gun violence in Mexico," the National Catholic Reporter (NCR) continues to blame the U.S. for gun violence in Mexico, while viewing Fast & Furious as a legitimate attempt at law enforcement which just happened to go wrong.

According to NCR, Obama tried to reinstitute an "assault weapons" ban in the U.S. as a way to keep Mexico safer. He also pledged to "keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers."

NCR claims part of the pressure on traffickers included Operation Fast & Furious, which turned out to be a "botched 2009 operation to track gunrunners that resulted in ATF agents losing between 1,400-2,000 firearms," most of which were "assault weapons." Only half were recovered, and one was "used to kill a U.S. border agent," Brian Terry, in December 2010.

Ironically, NCR fails to note this "botched" operation rendered Obama's DOJ culpable in the very things Obama swore to fight against: "assault weapons" and gun trafficking.

After overlooking this, NCR shows Obama tried to fix the problems Fast & Furious created by passing more gun control for border states: specifically, a requirement that multiple purchases of rifles with detachable magazines and a caliber larger than .22 "merit [extra] documentation."(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Philosophy; US: Arizona; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; awb; banglist; brianterry; catholics; churchandstate; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; hsi; jaimezapata; mexico; obama; terry; zapata
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The same people who see no problem with 50 million individuals living here illegally and pushing for amnesty for them.
1 posted on 02/16/2014 1:42:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These sound like the same people who pushed Communism all over Latin America.


2 posted on 02/16/2014 1:44:55 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My first though is why would National Cash Register care?


3 posted on 02/16/2014 1:45:31 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Control the border and you control the guns.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 1:47:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another group of idiots.


5 posted on 02/16/2014 1:47:30 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee you mean if there were no U.S. guns in Mexico,( you gotta wonder where the full autos, grenades, etc. come from) there would be no Cartels, drug dealers or criminals? Sorry but my experience with the Catholic Church has been that they are pro Hispanic, legal or otherwise immigration to the U.S. because the Hispanics will get more money here, tend to be Catholic, have large families and will therefore add to the church in both numbers and cash.


6 posted on 02/16/2014 1:49:33 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A Catholic publication? About as catholic as the Kennedies, Pelosi, Biden et al.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 1:49:45 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: mulligan

Uh, I’m thinkin’ they been takin’ what the drug cartels are pushin’. Maybe sneakin’ something into the holy water? Or, are the cartels giving the church big bucks. Either way, I’m of the mind that the leftwing radical extremist demokkkrat scumbags insatiable need for drugs is behind the whole thing. For medicinal purposes only of course.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 1:51:43 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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National Catholic Reporter is an uber-liberal rag that has been repeatedly told by the bishops of Kansas City (where it's published) NOT to use the word "Catholic" in its name.

They don't speak for the Church, at all. They might speak for the far-left wing of the Democrat party, however.

9 posted on 02/16/2014 1:52:06 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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The National Catholic Reporter (aka, The Fishwrap) is not a truly Catholic publication. It is a dissident, heterodox publication published and written by people who call themselves Caholics, but who do not believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church.


10 posted on 02/16/2014 1:52:51 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: Proud2BeRight

I thought the same thing.


11 posted on 02/16/2014 1:53:02 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As if the socialism and the disregard for this country's sovereignty isn't enough and people wonder why some FReepers see the Catholic Church as a enemy of The Republic.
12 posted on 02/16/2014 1:55:26 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marxist Jesuits are the enemy


13 posted on 02/16/2014 1:56:52 PM PST by montag813
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Let’s get this straight -

Mexican culture is dominated by the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is blaming guns made in the U.S. that Mexicans buy, for the “gun violence”?????

I’d tell the Catholic Church to remove the big tree from its eye. Whatever the Catholic Church is preaching in Mexico, about “gun violence” it’s no working. So, instead of looking at how its doing its own job, in Mexico,they want to blame folks outside of Mexico for what Mexicans, overwhelmingly Catholic, are doing, by choice apparently.

Hypocrites.


14 posted on 02/16/2014 1:56:54 PM PST by Wuli
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oy

No, the Catholic Church, the catechism, sees huge problems getting involved in politics. It’s stance on illegal immigration is logical and centers around not just abiding by the law but also not depleting resources, furthering many problems as well as those for future legal immigrants

The US bishops (USCCB) radically push for illegals to have amnesty. This is led by bishops with English as a second language. Jose Gomez is a citizen of the US but as an immigrant himself is not allowed to influence government. Who is going to stop him?

Cardinal Dolan has made headlines siding w Obama on guns. He is supposed to by law of the church, stay out of politics

And the catechism certainly allows provides guidance for self defense and defense of others. We wouldn’t have Catholics thriving in the military if not

Two:

The national catholic reporter is a left wing publication re tending by what calls itself - to be a catholic paper It is not


15 posted on 02/16/2014 2:06:08 PM PST by stanne
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“National Catholic Reporter is an uber-liberal rag that has been repeatedly told by the bishops of Kansas City (where it’s published) NOT to use the word “Catholic” in its name.”

Then why doesn’t “The Church” sue? Probably because they also won’t deny communion to the Likes of Pelosi, Biden, Cuomo,etc, and because like other “organized religions,” they are Socialist/Marxist in their philosophy.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 2:06:08 PM PST by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s get this straight -

Mexican culture is dominated by the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is blaming guns made in the U.S. that Mexicans buy, for the “gun violence”?????

I’d tell the Catholic Church to remove the big tree from its eye. Whatever the Catholic Church is preaching in Mexico, about “gun violence” it’s no working. So, instead of looking at how its doing its own job, in Mexico,they want to blame folks outside of Mexico for what Mexicans, overwhelmingly Catholic, are doing, by choice apparently.

Hypocrites.


17 posted on 02/16/2014 2:08:15 PM PST by Wuli
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The NCR IS NOT A CATHOLIC PUBLICATION. It was stripped of that decades ago by the Bishop of Kansas City. That’s a fact.http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Cofv

This was reaffirmed just last year: https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=16911


18 posted on 02/16/2014 2:09:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

As we discussed in a previous analysis, the 90 percent number was derived from a June 2009 U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report to Congress on U.S. efforts to combat arms trafficking to Mexico (see external link).

According to the GAO report, some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican authorities in 2008. Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States. Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.


19 posted on 02/16/2014 2:11:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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“Mexican culture is dominated by the Catholic Church...”

Nope. That hasn’t been true for over a century. If it were true, then this would never have happened: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_Mexico


20 posted on 02/16/2014 2:11:57 PM PST by vladimir998
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