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Train Carrying Canadian Oil Derails, Leaks In Pennsylvania
Reuters via Rig Zone ^ | February 13, 2014 | Elizabeth Dilts & Robert Gibbons

Posted on 02/13/2014 2:26:42 PM PST by thackney

A 120-car Norfolk Southern Corp train carrying heavy Canadian crude oil derailed and spilled in western Pennsylvania on Thursday, adding to a string of recent accidents that have prompted calls for stronger safety standards.

There were no reports of injury or fire after 21 tank cars came off the track and crashed into a nearby industrial building at a bend by the Kiskiminetas River in the town of Vandergrift.

Nineteen of the derailed cars were carrying oil, four of which spilled between 3,000 and 4,000 gallons of oil, Norfolk Southern said. The leaks have since been plugged. The two other derailed tank cars held liquefied petroleum gas.

The train, which originated in Chicago, was destined for an asphalt plant in Paulsboro, New Jersey, owned by NuStar, a NuStar spokeswoman said.

The clean-up was under way on Thursday as a heavy winter storm gathered pace, leaving about 4 inches (10 cm) of snow on the ground by midday Thursday. An investigator from the Federal Railroad Administration was en route to the scene, the railroad regulator said.

"I heard a strange noise, a hollow, screeching sound," said Ray Cochran, who watched the train derail from his home on a hill above the tracks. "I looked out the window and saw three or four tankers turn over and one of them ran into the building."

The train, which was also carrying food products, crashed into a track-side building owned by MSI Corporation that makes metal products.

All employees had been accounted for, said Sandy Smythe, a public information officer with Westmoreland County's public safety department, which includes Vandergrift borough.

MSI declined to comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at rigzone.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: energy; lacmegantic; oil; rail
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1 posted on 02/13/2014 2:26:42 PM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

And I’ve read that a couple of bh0’s big backers and are against the pipleline own a lot of railroad shares, thus profiting from moving the oil by train. thus their ‘environmental’ reasons are GREEN MONEY, not a green environmental.


2 posted on 02/13/2014 2:29:17 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: thackney

The MSI site is the outside of a strong bend in the rail tracks.

https://www.google.com/maps?q=MSI+Corporation&hl=en&ll=40.602533,-79.556476&spn=0.007071,0.013787&sll=40.6018,-79.565692&sspn=0.028282,0.055146&t=h&hq=MSI+Corporation&z=17


3 posted on 02/13/2014 2:30:48 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

4 posted on 02/13/2014 2:33:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: thackney

Somebody should invent a system of underground pipes that can transport this type of product efficiently and safely.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 2:33:39 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: GreyFriar

COMMENTARY: An Obama-Buffett Connection Could Keep Crude Rolling by Rail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3033308/posts


6 posted on 02/13/2014 2:34:00 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Paladin2

http://www.wtae.com/news/local/westmoreland/24463988


7 posted on 02/13/2014 2:36:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Milton Miteybad

Brilliant.

Ya know, I think some other folks thought the same thing, about 100 years ago.

http://www.pipeline101.com/history/timeline.html


8 posted on 02/13/2014 2:37:13 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Paladin2

9 posted on 02/13/2014 2:37:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

This river flows into the Allegheny which flows into the Ohio. It is a high price to pay so that one of ObaMao’s bag men can continue to rake in money to ship by rail.


10 posted on 02/13/2014 2:37:47 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: thackney

Here’s an idea: build a long skinny container that the oil can travel inside all the way from the well to the refinery.

Nah... makes too much sense.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 2:39:14 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Milton Miteybad

It’s not the technology, it’s the people. A generation ago, this would have been feasible. But this type of job requires special skills. Skills that today’s generation of slackers and graduates in Women and Communist Studies don’t possess.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 2:41:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: thackney

Thank you. Buffett, that ever Demo die hard for profiting first and criticizing republicans who would make the economy better for the little guys and gals.


13 posted on 02/13/2014 2:44:27 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Stupid mobil pipelines. Fixed pipelines are better. Usually don’t derail just cause of a little snow and a curvy track.


14 posted on 02/13/2014 2:46:06 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: thackney

” - - - Thursday’s accident is the latest in a spate of crude oil train derailments that has prompted calls for more stringent rules regulating crude by rail, shipments of which have soared in recent years as pipelines fail to keep up with growing supply. - - -

From this key quote we can conclude the following:

1.) The problem: Pipelines have failed to keep up with growing supply.

2.) The solution to the problem: Enact more stringent rules for regulating crude by rail shipments.

All yuh gotta do is sit in a stuffy Congressional room and solve all of the Nation’s problems by just passing laws, regulations and holding press conferences!

I sure hope that all business leaders take notice, and stop learning all that technical stuff, and just ask your Congress Critter to pile on more Regulations!

- See more at: http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/131615/Train_Carrying_Canadian_Oil_Derails_Leaks_In_Pennsylvania/?all=HG2#sthash.sDL1RIBx.dpuf


15 posted on 02/13/2014 2:52:42 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: thackney

My point exactly. ;-)


16 posted on 02/13/2014 2:52:49 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: rktman
Stupid mobil pipelines.

They don't derail near O's peeps.

17 posted on 02/13/2014 2:52:53 PM PST by Kennard
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Summary:
...21 tank cars came off the track...
...2 of the derailed cars held liquefied petroleum gas...
...19 of the derailed cars held crude oil...
...4 of the 19 crude oil cars developed leaks...
...those leaks have all been plugged...
...between 3,000 and 4,000 gallons of oil was spilled...
...clean-up is already underway...
...there were no reports of any injuries...
...there were no reports of any fire...


18 posted on 02/13/2014 2:56:19 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: thackney

Train probably owned by Buffet who stands to lose a lot of money if the Keystone Pipeline gets approved.


19 posted on 02/13/2014 3:00:46 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: Milton Miteybad
Somebody should invent a system of underground pipes that can transport this type of product efficiently and safely.

The Obama does not like them underground pipe thingies.

20 posted on 02/13/2014 3:08:58 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: thackney
Just to be clear, did Norfolk Southern get the required Environmental Impact Statement before this derailment?  /s


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21 posted on 02/13/2014 3:15:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: thackney

Buffett again! When will someone do something about all Buffett’s oil spills?


22 posted on 02/13/2014 3:22:07 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: thackney
"Roll on Buddy
WIth a load of coal
How can I roll
When the wheels won't go"

23 posted on 02/13/2014 3:29:04 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: rktman

While I’m no fan of Obama crony Warren Buffet, there have been plenty of pipeline ruptures also.

None of these systems are ever going to be 100% failsafe.

It’s all reasonable risk in my book.

I have read that tank cars are running over the design weight on the axles. That needs to be stopped.


24 posted on 02/13/2014 3:34:37 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: thackney

P-I-P-E-L-I-N-E


25 posted on 02/13/2014 3:36:21 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: thackney

If only we had a safe pipeline to carry petroleum!


26 posted on 02/13/2014 3:36:28 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Paladin2

How did that train derail on the inside of the curve. Doesn’t make sense. Centrifugal forces not in play here?


27 posted on 02/13/2014 3:50:24 PM PST by refermech
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To: thackney

winter weather, ice, stuck switch and/or icy rail(s)

leaks plugged; “environmental” concerns mitigated

we can move on now


28 posted on 02/13/2014 3:56:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: SusaninOhio

The irony of oil tank cars derailing in the Keystone State is delicious.


29 posted on 02/13/2014 4:01:15 PM PST by billorites (nichtarbeit macht frei)
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To: thackney

I wonder where the train was headed. There is a lot of CSX oil tanker train activity in our vicinity (through Selkirk) headed to the Port of Albany. It has greatly stepped up recently. I wonder if there is a democrat/Cuomo connection - I didn’t know about the Buffet train ownership connection...

Hmmm Anyone know anything more about this?


30 posted on 02/13/2014 4:01:40 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: xsmommy

Local interest ping.


31 posted on 02/13/2014 4:19:39 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: thackney

time for more pipelines!


32 posted on 02/13/2014 4:29:52 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: refermech

Train handling... There was probably a grade there or the locomotive engineer was was power braking through the curve... envision the train as a rope you are pulling around a curve... The more tension on the rope the more lateral force to the inside it will have

In that picture, the wheels may have dropped inside the gage (wide gage)...and then the drawbar pull “stringlined” the train.


33 posted on 02/13/2014 5:07:12 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Great explanation! Didn’t even occur to me,then again I’m no train man!


34 posted on 02/13/2014 5:11:09 PM PST by refermech
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To: stonehouse01
I didn’t know about the Buffet train ownership connection... Hmmm Anyone know anything more about this?

I think Burlington-Northern is part of his Birkshire-Hathaway holding company. I don't think CSX is part of his empire, but no doubt that BN hauls a lot of oil out of the upper midwest.

35 posted on 02/13/2014 5:14:45 PM PST by Ditto
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To: stonehouse01

I thought I read asphalt plant in New Jersey.


36 posted on 02/13/2014 5:41:21 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/04/17/how-do-warren-buffett-and-sen-ben-nelson-benefit-from-the-white-house-killing-the-keystone-pipeline/

Choo Choo


37 posted on 02/13/2014 5:58:45 PM PST by GraceG
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To: thackney

How convenient.
Wonder if it was purposeful.


38 posted on 02/13/2014 6:00:47 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: thackney

they will need to put good, modern security techniques in place. There are radicals who will without question sabotage these trains, and there will be deaths. The leftie radical environmentalists will stop at nothing.


39 posted on 02/13/2014 6:11:03 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Milton Miteybad

“Somebody should invent a system of underground pipes that can transport this type of product efficiently and safely.”

And bypass the railroads. Which is exactly why such a system was invented and installed by J. D. Rockefeller at the beginning of the 19th century in his fight against the railroads who kept jacking up their rates for transporting kerosene.

Funny thing though. Looks like we’re right back to that same situation all over again, except this time the White House is squarely on the side of the current railroad robber barons in thwarting pipeline construction.


40 posted on 02/13/2014 6:29:15 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

I give up, time to go solar, getting one of those solar furnaces installed in the AM


41 posted on 02/13/2014 6:55:36 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: thackney

Quick! Someone pass a law mandating more stringent safety standards and outlawing rail road wrecks! Hurry!


42 posted on 02/13/2014 6:57:32 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: thackney

Here come the anti-Keystone bunch! This just gives them fuel...to pardon the pun. :)


43 posted on 02/13/2014 7:09:11 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: thackney

Willie Weeps!


44 posted on 02/13/2014 8:36:48 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: stonehouse01

well, you could read the OP.
“The train, which originated in Chicago, was destined for an asphalt plant in Paulsboro, New Jersey, owned by NuStar, a NuStar spokeswoman said.”


45 posted on 02/14/2014 4:51:43 AM PST by Segovia
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To: thackney

Not really a pipeline fault this time though, you still have to get oil to a customer’s plant.

This oil came from IL headed to an asphalt maker, how else besides truck can it get to NJ? How many times has it been done in the decades before this crash, a few thousand possibly?

We ship oil all the time by rail tanker, long before Obama got into office and there have always been accidents like this, they’re just making the front page now that Keystone is so important.

(which is fine by me this time because it helps out a cause I’m all for, but many times the opposite is just as true)


46 posted on 02/14/2014 5:42:51 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: GreyFriar
And I’ve read that a couple of bh0’s big backers and are against the pipleline own a lot of railroad shares, thus profiting from moving the oil by train. thus their ‘environmental’ reasons are GREEN MONEY, not a green environmental.

Warren Buffet got this covered...

His holding company recently brought a company specializing in additives that improve the flow of oil in pipelines.

47 posted on 02/14/2014 5:57:13 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Milton Miteybad

“Somebody should invent a system of underground pipes that can transport this type of product efficiently and safely.”

Somebody should invent a system of personal liberty and private property.


48 posted on 02/14/2014 6:03:59 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Abathar

All true.


49 posted on 02/14/2014 6:32:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Abathar
We ship oil all the time by rail tanker, long before Obama got into office

Just one point. We are shipping a lot more oil now due to increases in domestic production combined with a lack of approved pipelines. So while the rate of accidents may not change, the number of accidents is quite likely to be higher.

North Dakota oil rail shipments expected to spike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3101356/posts

Study says pipeline resistance raises oil-transport risks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3081952/posts

U.S. crude oil increasingly moves by barge, truck and rail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041737/posts

50 posted on 02/14/2014 6:37:17 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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