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BREAKING: Utah legislators move to kill NSA data center
Ben Swann ^ | 2/12/14 | Michael Lotfi

Posted on 02/13/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by Baynative

SALT LAKE CITY, February 12, 2014–Can Utah shut down the new NSA data center by turning off the water? A new bill introduced by state Rep. Marc Roberts seeks to do just that.

The legislation drafted by a transpartisan coalition organized by the Tenth Amendment Center (TAC) and the Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) called OffNow Coalition. The Utah Fourth Amendment Protection Act would expressly prohibit state material support, participation, and assistance to any federal agency that collects electronic date or metadata without a search warrant “that particularly desribes the person, place and thing to be searched or seized.”

“Without question, the mass surveillance and data collection by the Utah Data Center is a delicate and important matter,” Roberts said. “But for me, the language of the Fourth Amendment is clear. It simply protects us against unreasonable and unwarranted searches or seizures of our persons, private residencies and property, documents and information and personal and private belongings. This legislation preserves those rights to the people.”

(Excerpt) Read more at benswann.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bluffdale; killthebeast; nsa; nsadatacenter; statesrights; utah; utahdatacenter; yeswescan
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To: ilovesarah2012

Eventually they run themselves down.

The nature of so-called progressivism is ultimate auto-destruction due to inherent flaws. Starting with flaws of the mind.


41 posted on 02/13/2014 11:00:36 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: tacticalogic

The article claims they use a estimated 1.7 millions gallons/day. They may have some onsite storage to outlast a broken water main, but not a shut off.


42 posted on 02/13/2014 11:02:35 AM PST by matt04
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To: Baynative

good.


43 posted on 02/13/2014 11:05:33 AM PST by dadfly
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To: tacticalogic

The ones like this that use chilled water are open systems which require a steady supply of chilled water from an outside source.

They can operate a short time without it on the backup systems they are supposed to have. The backup systems are expensive and rarely rated for long term use.

Good for Utah. This datacenter brings a lot of money into the state so this is an encouraging move by politicians.


44 posted on 02/13/2014 11:06:42 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Baynative

Roberts is not an anti America, left wing maggot.

He appears to fit right in with most of us on FR.

http://marcroberts67.com/

He had better be as clean as the driven snow in Utah’s great ski areas.

If not, NAS/FBI/IRS and Holder’s Thugs will be releasing everything Roberts, his family and wife has done since they were born.


45 posted on 02/13/2014 11:12:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Liberty Valance

Love it!


46 posted on 02/13/2014 11:20:25 AM PST by Constitution Day (Endeavor To Persevere)
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To: Baynative

Basis alleged mass violations of the Fourth Amendment...

...the local Sheriff moves in mid-day on a weekday, rounds up all of the employees, cordons off the building as a crime scene under investigation, boots everybody else out...

...records are located and confiscated by the Sheriff as evidence...

...charges are ultimately filed, with many employees being charged as accessories, co-conspirators, etc...

Just a matter of HOW to orchestrate this, is all...


47 posted on 02/13/2014 11:22:20 AM PST by HKMk23 (The Superior Culture will prevail.)
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To: Baynative

Republicans in Maryland are trying the same action.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3121338/posts

Lights Out for NSA? Maryland Lawmakers Push to Cut Water, Electricity to Spy Agency Headquarters
US News and World Report ^ | 2/10/2014 | Steven Nelson

The National Security Agency’s headquarters in Ft. Meade, Md., will go dark if a cohort of Maryland lawmakers has its way.

Eight Republicans in the 141-member Maryland House of Delegates introduced legislation Thursday that would deny the electronic spy agency “material support, participation or assistance in any form” from the state, its political subdivisions or companies with state contracts.

The bill would deprive NSA facilities water and electricity carried over public utilities, ban the use of NSA-derived evidence in state courts and prevent state universities from partnering with the NSA on research.


48 posted on 02/13/2014 11:31:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: tacticalogic

An extreme water ph adjustment will render the whole system useless in a month.


49 posted on 02/13/2014 11:39:45 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Jane Long
Only Commies ignore and denigrate our Constitution.

Umm, and just about EVERY elite democrat...

50 posted on 02/13/2014 11:44:11 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: Chickensoup

-—not exactly like a nukesub. They need external water, power, and fiber optic phone line access, all of which can be controlled by the State. Even drilling for water on their own property is still controlled by the state, particularly in the western states. And the state highway patrol could control access-—just to get bitchy about it.


51 posted on 02/13/2014 11:45:47 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Secret Agent Man

of course!


52 posted on 02/13/2014 11:58:21 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: GOPJ

Tells ya something, doesn’t it?


53 posted on 02/13/2014 12:40:13 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Baynative

The piece evokes skepticism. How much federal funding does Utah get from the federal government for the many programs it participates in? Most folks in state assemblies are commies at least as much as those in Congress.


54 posted on 02/13/2014 1:07:21 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Baynative
Sweet.

5.56mm

55 posted on 02/13/2014 1:08:29 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Alter Kaker

They don’t want to kick out a federal agency. They just want to cut off its water supply. McCulloch v. Maryland doesn’t apply.

Utah just needs the water for something else. Irrigation maybe. They have a good case and can win in court.


56 posted on 02/13/2014 1:33:49 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: familyop

Most of Utah is owned by the fedgov. Utah should demand that fedgov hand over the land to the state or they shut the water off. Once they get control of the land drilling starts and everyone in Utah gets a check like Sarah did in Alaska. Win for the people of Utah and the rest of us don’t get spied on.


57 posted on 02/13/2014 2:37:42 PM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: Baynative

bookmark


58 posted on 02/13/2014 2:50:26 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Nothing will stop the federal government from doing whatever they want anyway.


59 posted on 02/13/2014 3:24:19 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: BarnacleCenturion
They don’t want to kick out a federal agency. They just want to cut off its water supply. McCulloch v. Maryland doesn’t apply. Utah just needs the water for something else. Irrigation maybe. They have a good case and can win in court.

Sure, ok, I'm sure that will be persuasive in a federal court of law. Because Utah just randomly shuts off water to other facilities all the time. This is too cute by half, and is precisely the situation the court addressed nearly 200 years ago in McCulloch. There Maryland was simply trying to "tax out of state banks" - but as in this case, the actual motive was easy to figure out.

60 posted on 02/13/2014 4:02:28 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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