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The martyrdom of Mark Steyn
The Spectator ^ | 2/12/14 | James Delingpole

Posted on 02/12/2014 10:15:11 PM PST by Valpal1

So let’s just cut through that crap and remind ourselves briefly what we know about the plaintiff. Michael Mann was an obscure young physicist-turned-climatologist who rose without trace in 1998 with the publication in Nature of his ‘hockey stick’ chart showing dramatic and apparently unprecedented late-20th-century global warming.

There followed almost instant fame, on which Mann has traded ever since — gaining tenure at Penn State University, drawing millions in public funding for research, often called on by the Guardian and the New York Times to sum up the state of climate science. Al Gore used a version of Mann’s hockey stick in his Oscar-winning An Inconvenient Truth. The IPCC used it five times in its Third Assessment Report and promoted Mann to lead author.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; delingpole; globalwarming; hockeystick; jamesdelingpole; mann; marksteyn; marksteyntrial; michealmann; steyn; steyntrial
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To: Fungi
. Can someone please inform the author that he does not know how to write?

I believe the problem is that you don't know how to read.

41 posted on 02/17/2014 8:41:42 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: martin_fierro

The Nobel “prize” means absolutely nothing anymore...

But...

If someone were to develop an adult diaper to successfully contain all the poopy democrats extrude, than that actually might be noteworthy...

But, I’m sure as hell not going to change that diaper!!!


42 posted on 02/18/2014 2:27:32 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
So, if coal can bail out the Heartland Institute, they can also bail out Steyn

It would be better if support did not come from the coal or oil industries because the media, if Mark were to succeed, will just report that the coal/oil industries bought and paid for the verdict.

43 posted on 02/18/2014 5:14:50 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I must have missed the details of this. Help me to understand what is going on.

Committing a crime is no longer the crime? Exposing the criminal actions of others is now the crime?

-PJ

That's about right.

44 posted on 02/18/2014 6:42:28 AM PST by madison10
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To: Go Gordon
So what you are saying is that it is OK if it is not quid pro quo.

Returning to Heartland, one of their biggest donors is anonymous. So that donor can not be identified but the donor can be characterized, or characterized.

45 posted on 02/18/2014 6:53:29 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
So what you are saying is that it is OK if it is not quid pro quo.

No, what I'm saying is that if the case goes to trial and Steyn proves the falacy of the man-made global warming religion, it can be used to confront the "settled-science" crowd. However, if Steyn is funded by oil/coal companies, the lefties will use that fact to deminish the actual result of disproving man-made global warming.

46 posted on 02/18/2014 8:08:40 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Go Gordon
"if the case goes to trial and Steyn proves the fallacy of the man-made global warming"

He can't do that because his stated defense is that what he said was merely opinion.

Accept the reality, what Steyn said/did back at that time was one part of a co-ordinated attempt to discredit.

There is an old rule: When you start calling people names, that means you are losing the argument, or have lost the argument

47 posted on 02/18/2014 8:43:32 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Fledermaus

That is a libel against Carson. Mann is a liar through and through.


48 posted on 02/18/2014 9:10:35 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: CedarDave
Indeed this should become a battle royale left vs right global warming swindel vs reason. Is Mann going to prove his hockey stick con in court?
49 posted on 02/18/2014 9:11:54 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Elsie
Also from the same Crichton speech:
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.

50 posted on 02/18/2014 9:14:41 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Indeed this should become a battle royale left vs right global warming swindel vs reason. Is Mann going to prove his hockey stick con in court?

He can try, but he can't. However, he may not have to. The liberal court is already stacked against Steyn and in a jury trial feelings and emotion often outweigh the facts, especially in DC. The story title is aptly named - what was originally considered a slam-dunk defense is now in doubt and Mark's head may be handed to him for showing (let alone saying) the "emperor has no clothes."

51 posted on 02/18/2014 9:35:52 AM PST by CedarDave (Obama - "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want" (02/10/14 declaration))
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To: Elsie

A good Michael Crichton talk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOu8akBowTg


52 posted on 02/18/2014 1:25:03 PM PST by EEGator
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To: TChad

I doubt that Scooter has the gift of gab and descriptive language that Mark has!


53 posted on 02/18/2014 1:46:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Valpal1

You would think that the Judge would laugh at a scientist who publicly asserted a theory then started suing his critics.


54 posted on 02/18/2014 9:12:55 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Valpal1

Thanx for this post


55 posted on 02/19/2014 9:14:07 AM PST by bayouranger (Those who are anti-islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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To: llevrok

Paul Krugman for example. I think he found his econ degree in a box of Cracker Jacks


56 posted on 02/19/2014 9:32:33 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: pas

“When Steyn’s lawyers ask for all documents and data related to his theory, they will end this.”

Not so sure that’s correct. If you have a compliant judge, he will order documents to be produced under a protective order that prevents Steyn from making them public.


57 posted on 02/20/2014 4:32:30 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: mrsmel; All

If the “Inconvenient Truth” has some inconvenient scientific, fact based and more accurate picture of this made up issue...

What exactly is the court dragging Steyn in for???

I stand to be corrected if I have not understood this to be the case...


58 posted on 02/21/2014 1:10:03 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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