Posted on 02/09/2014 8:05:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Everybody dies once (physically), saved people are resurrected to Life while unsaved people end up in the Lake of Fire aka the Second Death.
Your record is expunged. It is as if He never made you.
unsaved people end up in the Lake of Fire
And are consumed.
Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. Do you mean you believe that Christ saves you from vanishing/disappearing?
Nowhere in the Bible is hell described as a place of punishment; instead, the term used is torment (Gk. basanos). The torment of hell is the lack of God's grace, caused by the refusal of those here to have accepted it; put more simply, the love of God compels Him to allow those who do not wish His presence in their lives to not have that presence. The love of God requires the existence of a hell, because if God made everyone accept His salvation, then God would be, not love, but tyranny.
I also remind you of the parable of the rich man in Sheol begging for a drop of water. If hell is not real, then where was he? I know there is some discussion that this place is not hell but a holding place until the final judgment. However regardless of what it is, it is a real place where the dead currently are.
Depends upon their faith in the grace of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). The blood of Jesus covers all sin. If they accept His saving grace paid for on the cross, they will be in heaven; if not, they will be in hell.
God will treat every soul with perfect justice. No one will be able to find fault with it. You think perfect justice for some is eternal agony. I don’t know where that idea of justice comes from but it doesn’t come from Heaven.
I think DManA is a Seventh Day Adventist, they believe that unsaved people burn instantly in hell and, after that, there is nothing! I had 3 of them in my Sunday school class and I never got them to admit that “no punishment for eternity” (ceasing to exist) is not the same as “eternal punishment”. It would be the same as catching a criminal and sentencing him to live in another place, never in the city where he committed the crime.
You're almost there. Hell is the grave. Those in Messiah are resurrected at his second coming. Those not are resurrected at the end, after Yeshua's 1,000 year reign on earth to be Judged by him. Those whose names aren't written in the 'book of life' are said to be cast into the 'lake of fire' - some read this as cast apart (i.e., the second death).
Not a member of that church but I agree with their doctrine on Hell.
Thanks for responding, Former Fetus.
I was going to ask him to explain why his view of hell differs from what Jesus told us.
I’ve addressed that. You need to study the Bible; it is very apparent from this post you are not aware of the genres of literature in the Scripture.
You just misunderstand Him.
Amen
G-D gave the devil a choice between Texas and Hell. He chose Hell, we got Texas. Some say the devil got the best of the deal, I don’t know. In this life it seems we are having to run across Hell to get over to Heaven on the other side.
The master whom I serve (whether by his election or my choice) holds the keys to hell and death. That’s enough to convince me there is a hell and things could be get much worse in the long run. But my master has given me hope that I (a big time sinner) will make it to the other side and enjoy the everlasting life HE has promised.
The Clintons will go to Heaven, but only if, first, God agrees to step down.
Like I said earlier, before the cross Sheol (often times translated as hell) was the place of the dead. But after the cross, the believers go straight away to heaven, because to be absent from the body is to be present with Jesus (2 Cor. 5:8). Other than that, I agree 100% with you.
Excellent verbiage!
Some of your answers come across as kind of arrogant: you don’t care about the salvation of others, everybody else is wrong... Let me remind you that pride was Satan’s sin (Isa. 14:12-15; Eze. 28:14-15) and was behind the Fall of man. The Bible warns us plenty of times to watch out against pride in our lives: Proverbs 16:18, Proverbs 11:2, Proverbs 18:12.
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