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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 9 February 2014
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 9 February 2014 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 02/09/2014 5:13:13 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



February 9th, 2014

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, and Adam Schiff, D-Calif.; Sens. Ben Cardin, D-Md., and Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y., and Rob Portman, R-Ohio.; Michael McFaul, U.S. ambassador to Russia

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., Tom Cole, R-Okla., and Keith Ellison, D-Minn..

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, former Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; sunday; talkshows
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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
1 posted on 02/09/2014 5:13:13 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.
2 posted on 02/09/2014 5:13:48 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 02/09/2014 5:14:12 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com

Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com

ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

4 posted on 02/09/2014 5:14:36 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All; bray

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Matt 12:31

Marxists by definition have to be more intelligent than anybody else or they would be forced to have results. Obamacare is the perfect example, it is an absolute disaster which has forced more people off of their healthcare than will ever be covered and they refuse to accept any responsibility. It has directly cost more people jobs than have become enrollees, yet no sympathy at all for these destroyed lives. Everybody from Obama to Pelosi will never admit this Democrat nightmare is a failure so they either ignore the obvious or lie with conviction that it is not the economic monstrosity everyone knows it is. They will deflect and obscure until it completely collapses and/or is replaced by National healthcare.

Being a liberal is the easiest thing politically a person can become since there is no expectation, there is no explanation and there are no results. All you have to do is attack the things that make America work and vilify, vilify, vilify. If you can do that you will have the entire establishment eating out of your hand. The only thing they are really any good at is tearing down anybody or anything that goes against their world view. Liberals believe they are cutting edge theory and trying to rid the world of old thinking when their economic and political philosophy has not changed since the early 1900s. As with everything Obama and his Party has promoted in the past thirty years, it is simply Marxism and having to compromise with Republicans as little as necessary.

Their primary weapon for advancing their agenda is making everyone who disagrees with them a xenophobe making their opinion not worthy of serious consideration. This tactic really began with abortion when they made the claim if you are not a woman you have no right to an opinion. They then built their pro-Marxist activists such as NOW to be the spokeswomen for abortion making the argument one sided. Their allies in the Three Pillars of Propaganda (media, academia and the DNC) declared the pro-abortion side the winners of the debate after Roe v Wade decision and the liberals celebrated victory. Those who opposed were declared sexist and insensitive to women’s issues and any woman who opposed abortion was a traitor to her race.

Next they moved to welfare and affirmative action declaring anybody who disagreed as a rich insensitive White person who can never understand the oppression of being black in White America. Never mind many of those were White promoting Marxism or Black racists like Jessie Jackson who made a great living off of racism, Whitey’s opinion didn’t count. If a Black agreed that welfare was destroying the Black neighborhoods and family, he was deemed an Uncle Tom, a sellout or an Oreo making his opinion even less valid than Whitey’s. Once again this makes one side of the argument valid while silencing any opinions that promote jobs or free market independence.

We then saw the same tactics used on the environment so anyone who disagrees with the radical agenda driven environmentalists were dismissed as polluters who wanted to exploit the environment. We saw it with the Spotted Owl endangered species fraud, the shrinking ozone layer and acid rain where anyone who disagreed was funded by those evil businesses or big oil. Never mind all of these radical environmental groups are having boatloads of money dropped on them by pro-communist groups such as the Tides Foundation or George Soros, it is only the evil industry fighting for its survival that are a danger. The latest of course is Global Warming which claims anybody who questions their findings or data is a denier while they deny anything that does not fit their agenda.

Now we are having the homosexual groups using the same tactic which says anybody who is not for homosexual marriage is a homophobe and should be ignored. Rather than have a fair and open discussion which they would likely lose, they declare the opposition a homophobe and force their dogma on everyone else. It doesn’t matter if the people who disagree have well thought out reasons for questioning the wisdom of these marriages through well thought out reasoning, declare them a hater and shut them up. This is no way to run a society and certainly no way to rule a country. This is nothing more than a cheap parlor trick to promote and agenda and should have no place in a serious discussion.

There is no way the gummit should be getting into changing something as fundamentally a foundation in society as marriage, yet this one is promoting it vigorously. This is a lifestyle which leads to chronic sickness due to the health risks of anal sex. Homosexual men have on average hundreds of partners having to do with the sexual needs and eventual addictions to this activity. Later like all addictions it leads to not only the health issues of AIDS, mono, syphilis, gonorrhea and every other STD in much higher frequency levels, it also increases the levels of depression, drug and alcohol as well as much higher suicide levels. Even with these health risks screaming at society, due to their homophobe label the homosexual agenda has been able to silence any opposition.

So why have the Marxists taking such a hard stance on homosexual marriage. It is really simple, they want to close down the churches and especially the Christian churches. They have been the largest obstacle to making America a Marxist dictatorship and if they can eliminate the church or at least marginalize it they believe they will be able to have a clear path to their commie utopia. Once they make homosexual marriage a guaranteed right then every church in the nation will be forced to marry homosexuals. Any church or pastor who doesn’t will then be subject to lawsuits which will bankrupt these churches and forcing them to close their doors. When all of the churches are gone then the only thing left to fill the void is the liberal dirt worshipping cult and their gummit god. They are basically trying to make homosexual marriage into their Panzer division to destroy their enemy, the Christian faith.

If you take a look at all of the items the liberal Marxists have promoted using this tactic there develops a pattern of human destruction. They promoted abortion which kill over 50 million babies and causes mothers huge increases in addiction, depression and suicide. Their pushing welfare and racism has destroyed the Black family and community causing huge increases in addictions, depression and abortions. They promoted environmentalism which has destroyed entire communities in resource heavy areas causing huge increases in addictions, depression and suicides. Now they are promoting homosexuality which causes huge increases in STDs, addiction, depression and suicide. The church declares all of these sins since people are warned in the Bible that these behaviors and addictions will destroy you. Maybe the Bible is not intolerant and hateful it may be wise and a warning against those things that will cause us problems. Perhaps it really is a love letter to his creation on how to avoid STDs, addictions, depression and suicide?

Pray America is waking

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.


5 posted on 02/09/2014 5:15:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H.

Political circle jerk. Won't be any arguments among those three.

6 posted on 02/09/2014 5:31:09 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All.

Getting ready to go to church, am singing at the 10 am and also will be speaking to the congregation from the pulpit asking them to give more money in their collection.

I just don’t care, this is the fifth year I’ve done this and this church exceeds the budgeted collection half again. I always say it’s because of my little pep talks and I half believe this.

Thank you AB for doing this thread....was playing Candy Crush till I saw it go up.

Last week some Repub or another came out expressing a waning interest in immigration reform. I’ve no doubt the lack of zeal is because the citizenry, all of us with fences and locks and such, understand protecting our perimeters. Somewhere along the line the political elite decided, perhaps due to large monetary contributions from businesses needing cheap labor, to open our borders with a revolving door and we, the boobs that elected them, HAD NO SAY IN THIS DECISION!

So now when we hear immigration reform....no...the political elite want to keep that revolving door and the country class does not want it. We all got yards, fences, walls, limits....it’s human nature, indeed the nature of every living thing, to protect its territory.

One explanation for the withdrawal of immigration reform was that Obama doesn’t enforce the laws anyway, why enact them?

I understand Mike Wallace is going to cover this as I don’t know who said that BUT WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??

We have a member of the opposition party, a party with one third of the power of our constitution, that openly, :::shrug::: accepts this really cool form of dictatorship.

For why the hell should Obama enforce silly laws he does not like? Let the legislature enact laws all they want, he will just ignore those he does not like. And those laws he needs that the legislature does not enact....well he’ll just write up an executive order.

Boom, instant dictatorship.

If we had an opposition party well for one thing they wouldn’t be shrugging and saying “oh well, no need for laws, he doesn’t enforce them.”

And THAT my friends is what’s wrong with the Republican party.

Would any one of us be sitting back while Obama flips us the bird and installs a dictatorship? Yet he gets away with it for lack of opposition.

Sickens me.


7 posted on 02/09/2014 5:33:41 AM PST by Fishtalk (Join me on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/patricia.fish.5)
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To: raybbr

re: “Political circle jerk. Won’t be any arguments among those three.”

Oh yes there will.
Nuanced arguments. You know over the type of differences we folks out here in fly over country cannot possibly have the smarts to understand. These are arguments only the “Beltway Wizards of Smart” could possibly understand.


8 posted on 02/09/2014 5:44:02 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Just finished watching c-spans war on the Keystone Pipeline with Gene Kerpenski head of some environmental group(big fan of hillary’s bootlicker Pooooodesta) telling us that all that nasty oil,(I thought it got cleaned up in Texas where they refine it?) is only going to China and its dirty to begin with guess we are far better off refining all that clean Venezuelan oil(oh yeah that’s heavy crude as well).... since its tar sand oil global warming is settled science and that 97% of all scientists believe in....just too pathetic for words.


9 posted on 02/09/2014 5:56:57 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

McCain must be taking the weekend off.


10 posted on 02/09/2014 6:01:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Fishtalk
touche' fist talk.

11 posted on 02/09/2014 6:02:10 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Looks like another slow line up — probably due to the Olympics.

Tom Coburn (R-OK) is supposedly resigning his Senate seat, not because of bouts with cancer, but to help push the Article 5 state constitutional conventions. That idea seems to have some steam in several states. I retain my suspicious — that could be opening a whole can of worms of unintended consequences. I just don’t think such gatherings could be restricted to pre-set items, once the doors are closed.

Several incumbent Senators, both parties, seem to be in reelection trouble. McConnell and Graham on the R side seem have serious challenges this time. Landreau and Pryor on the D side seem to have been written off by the DNC.

Of course, the Republicans still have time to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. They seem to be expert at that.

It seems the new now leader for the GOP is Jeb Bush. Some still think Christie can make a come-back. Huckabee is polling high among some. The same with Palin. Even Romney is showing some life.

One recent article has a list of potential Republicans who might be interested. That list shows 32 names. My assessment after looking at that list is that probably 28 couldn’t get 100 Electoral Votes if they did make it to the general election. There just isn’t a lot of ‘there’ there. The GOP just doesn’t have many pizzazz names. It has more zonks than zingers.

A new survey this week showed that a large number of people (44%) still blame the last Bush and the Republicans for the current economy. Only about 33% blame Obama and the Democrats.


12 posted on 02/09/2014 6:09:48 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Sen. Cardin: immigration system is broken.

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Yeah, politicians broke it!

Enforce current laws!!! You won’t even enforce them, so why pile on new laws?

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Sen. Blunt references the same ole canard: secure the border.

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Define what you mean by ‘secure the border’, and we might think you mean it. Until then, it is just more empty rhetoric.


13 posted on 02/09/2014 6:13:56 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Alas Babylon!

Good morning AB, Eric and all

“McCain must be taking the weekend off.”

He’s probably campaigning with his little buddy, whose #s have been dropping in the polls.

I believe this is the 2nd time in the last month that Chucky Schumer and Turban Durbin are on the shows. Maybe they’re replacing the the other dynamic duo of McLame and Grahmnesty as talk show regulars. Or, perhaps the duos are taking turns overwhelming the LIVs with their “brilliance” on alternating weeks.


14 posted on 02/09/2014 6:15:34 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: TomGuy

Landreau and Pryor on the D side seem to have been written off by the DNC.

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Not sure about Landrieu. The Dems have just conducted another shell game - Max Baucus out of the Senate and now to be the new ambassador to China; Mary Landrieu now to head the Energy Committee, which was Baucus’ position.

Louisiana needs energy jobs, can we say: drilling in the Gulf.

Mary will make nice noises and promises and may get enough votes to stay in office.


15 posted on 02/09/2014 6:18:02 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS Panel

Juan, in perfect stride, cherry-picks examples to support the idea that Obamacare increasing unemployment is a good thing.


16 posted on 02/09/2014 6:20:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Juan uses as many independent brain cells for his answers as a Chatty Cathy doll.


17 posted on 02/09/2014 6:21:17 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Seattle Conservative
I thought perhaps McCain was taking a week off to have his tongue recapped...
18 posted on 02/09/2014 6:22:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: TomGuy

Marxists like Juan can say whatever they want since results don’t matter. They had good intentions and that is all that counts.


19 posted on 02/09/2014 6:24:30 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Obamacare is thinking about extending the ‘you can keep your current policy’ for 3 more years — past the 2016 election.

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Many insurance companies have already cancelled those policies because they are ILLEGAL under Obamacare now.

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Plugging the holes in Obamacare is about like plugging the openings in a chain link fence with wads of newspapers to keep the wind out.


20 posted on 02/09/2014 6:26:38 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: rodguy911
Did you catch the part where the Conservation guy made the statement that Keystone will actually increase the price of gasoline? First time I have heard that increasing supply will drive prices up.

Sometimes when I see clowns like that Gene Kaparski on TV it's embarrassing to be Polish.

21 posted on 02/09/2014 6:28:06 AM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LOL!


22 posted on 02/09/2014 6:29:06 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: bray

Exactly! They are never held accountable for the result of their actions. They never seem to have enough foresight to anticipate consequences. [Many of those consequences are so obvious to many of us with more than 2 functioning brain cells.] Additionally, they just ignore the unintended consequences -- they just shrug and go on with their talkingpoints.
23 posted on 02/09/2014 6:31:40 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Define what you mean by ‘secure the border’

I guess it's been moving around all by itself and they want to nail it down.

24 posted on 02/09/2014 6:32:58 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Bernard
RFK, Jr. told Andrea Mitchell that the Keystone oil was dirtier than other conventional fuels.

Thead and my response:

25 posted on 02/09/2014 6:35:16 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: bray; All
Great post as usual bud. I particularly liked this part:

Being a liberal is the easiest thing politically a person can become since there is no expectation, there is no explanation and there are no results. All you have to do is attack the things that make America work and vilify, vilify, vilify. If you can do that you will have the entire establishment eating out of your hand. The only thing they are really any good at is tearing down anybody or anything that goes against their world view.......

Just too good! The sad thing about zerocare is that we may never be able to totally get rid of it unless we get a Republican senate later this year that will have the guts to defund it.I don't see any other way unless they will challenge how it became law to begin with and I have no hope for that either.

It's like Larry Kudlow on WABC am 770 out of NYC said yesterday 'obamcare costs more and offers less.' Add in millions of others losing the good polices they had and it's an absolute disaster.

But that works well for the regime. They sign up as many victims as they can to medicaid and offer huge govt. assistance for may of the rest getting very close to the single payer dream that they wanted all along.

Meanwhile Cloward Piven rears its ugly head in the background.

26 posted on 02/09/2014 6:38:50 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy

They never seem to have enough foresight to anticipate consequences.

*****

It is time to confront them with the results of their fantasies. Time to call them magical thinkers. Time to tell them they are living in a dreamland, Oz.

Point to Detroit, Baltimore, St Louis, etc and ask how well Democrat policies have worked, and why would we want the entire country start to look like Detroit.

Fewer jobs, fewer well-paying jobs, more crime, more desperate people, more government dependency,...


27 posted on 02/09/2014 6:40:14 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: TomGuy
“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

Ben Franklin.... “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

What you are witnessing is what Americans want - we conservatives are on the losing side, and TRANSFORMATION will continue unabated AND without one single US Constitutional Amendment. So one would have to conclude we are NOT in the process of "keeping it".

The Democratic Party in the United States has largely morphed into an atheistic, anything goes, hedonist entity.
28 posted on 02/09/2014 6:40:57 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Bernard
it's embarrassing to be Polish.

Nah...just think Igor Sikorsky, Lech Walesa, and of course POLISH SAUSAGE!

29 posted on 02/09/2014 6:42:21 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I try, but always Shoe Polish pops up on the list


30 posted on 02/09/2014 6:46:41 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Wow!

Laura Ingraham just kicked George Will’s ass on amnesty, and now she’s doing the obligatory Wahn slapdown....with great deal of pizazz.


31 posted on 02/09/2014 6:53:49 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
As you imply, bray, this is as much a spiritual battle as a political one.

The struggle people mostly observe daily is the one on the human level. That makes it easy to root for one side or the other based on emotional arguments, especially when one's Earthly needs, wants, and lusts become involved which they always do. But when you get down to the core of our political problems, it revolves around common, crucial moral components.

If you stop and think about it, Liberals almost always are lined up against the moral law, handily laid out for us in the Ten Commandments ...

1. ...You shall have no other gods before Me.

2. You shall not... (make for yourself other gods) ... (nor) bow down to them nor serve them.

3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain...

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy...

5. Honor your father and your mother...

6. You shall not murder.

7. You shall not commit adultery.

8. You shall not steal.

9. You shall not bear false witness...

10. You shall not covet... anything that is your neighbor's.

It seems obvious the Liberal, humanistic political platform advocates violating ALL these moral laws, and stand in opposition to them. Simply observe their political platforms and actions.

On the other hand, Conservatives (being sinners in a fallen world, like everyone else) also violate these Laws on a personal level. But they don't habitually advocate doing so in political platform or as a legally "approved" action. Instead, their moral and political tendency is to confirm them, albeit imperfectly.

At it's heart, this battle is a spiritual one.

32 posted on 02/09/2014 6:54:53 AM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: maica

Watch Laura Ingram on Fox News, she rocked it against Georgie Will and Juan on immigration. She spoke more truth than has been told in years. Amazing debate and she really ticked Georgie off when he was called an elitist.


33 posted on 02/09/2014 6:55:01 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Fishtalk
One explanation for the withdrawal of immigration reform was that 'Obama doesn’t enforce the laws anyway,' why enact them?.

Good catch Fish. That is Boehner's explanation to a two day volley of machine gun fire from Rush on his show.(with info he got from us?) Seems Boehner had a change of heart about his immigration reform legislation that is all ready to go in several forms.Coincidentally, right after Rush lit a huge bonfire under his ass!

It went something like this.

Limbaugh conjectured that Boehner was trying for a smaller victory later this year than was possible. Rush's theory was that Boehner would go ahead and sign on to a mediocre immigration bill (that would immediately be EO'ed to death by the regime)that would piss us off and effect the elections.

In the end Boehner still expected a small victory for our side even though we were severely pissed off that he did immigration legislation knowing few on our side wanted it.

Seems Rush spoiled J/Boehner's scheme by exposing his plans. Anyway right after Rush's explanation which he did on two successive days Boehner suddenly had a change of heart stating that; "you just cant trust zero even if legislation was passed."What a revelation!

Also coincidentally was the factoid that at least a few House members or future House members were alerted to the potential that no matter what legislation they passed on immigration,no matter how weak, the regime would undoubtedly EO it to death until they got amnesty. Which no on our side will vote for unless they are totally suicidal.

Possibly one more reason Boehner decided not to do any immigration reform before the elections.He's not suicidal either! Trouble is you can't count on him to keep his word. Everything changes with the wind with these RINO/GOPers.

34 posted on 02/09/2014 7:01:27 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Cheerio

The GOPelite party is aiding and abetting and enabling that transformation.

They don’t even try to show themselves as an opposition party. Instead, they are the compromise party — compromising for most of whatever the Dems want.


35 posted on 02/09/2014 7:01:39 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: All; TomGuy; bert; Bernard; rodguy911; maica; Cheerio; Seattle Conservative; bray; Fishtalk; ...

The George Will beatdown is must-see TV.


36 posted on 02/09/2014 7:02:04 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

For sure. Less than stellar guest list this week.


37 posted on 02/09/2014 7:02:12 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Georgie’s plea for more workers to replace the baby boomers for the “welfare state” was pure nonsense. When you have 25% unemployment, why do you need more people and what jobs are you replacing?

She nailed Marxist Juan with the emotional plea about Grandmothers being deported. Just leveled him, “Just do legislation by emotion.” Brilliant!


38 posted on 02/09/2014 7:03:43 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Will’s 3 items for why we need illegals legalized was the weakest argument I have ever heard. They didn’t even make much sense, if national integrity is to be maintained.

As Ingraham responded, ‘why do we even need borders then?’

Ironically, Wallace called Will a staunch conservative.


39 posted on 02/09/2014 7:04:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
One recent article has a list of potential Republicans who might be interested. That list shows 32 names. My assessment after looking at that list is that probably 28 couldn’t get 100 Electoral Votes if they did make it to the general election. There just isn’t a lot of ‘there’ there. The GOP just doesn’t have many pizzazz names. It has more zonks than zingers.

I think you can cross off the fat basturd from NJ and hopefully jeb. I'd still like a governor myself.

40 posted on 02/09/2014 7:05:54 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Laura will not be invited back after that beatdown. “The elites in Washington” as she points to Georgie Will. He was completely out of his league as you saw the GOPe get taken to school. What about the average Americans? Who represents them?


41 posted on 02/09/2014 7:06:16 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Subject of NBC’s Meet-the-presstitutes:

BASHING PUTIN....
The Queers at gay-run MBC really do hate him for making Obama look like an idiot.

“Russia is a totalitarian nation!”
REALLY?????


42 posted on 02/09/2014 7:06:50 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Nah...just think Igor Sikorsky, Lech Walesa, and of course POLISH SAUSAGE!

There's also a Pope in there, and Stan Musial.

43 posted on 02/09/2014 7:08:58 AM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: maica

Doubtful if you had heard this clown from the environmental “kill all drilling” group on c-spam this morning. They are hard and fast about killing Keystone. I doubt zero will let it pass.


44 posted on 02/09/2014 7:09:38 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy
Ironically, Wallace called Will a staunch conservative.

Well, that contrived perception got laid to waste didn't it.

Heh heh heh.

Way to go Laura!

45 posted on 02/09/2014 7:11:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: bray
Laura did well, but she made a couple of missteps. First, we don't need more legal immigration, we need far less. Second, Laura conceded that there have been record deportations under Obama, but there haven't. It has been less, but Obama has been fudging the figures counting people caught at the border and sent back as deportations. It is another scam. She should read this:

Deportation Numbers Unwrapped Raw Statistics Reveal the Real Story of ICE Enforcement in Decline

This report examines data from a collection of mostly unpublished internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and ICE statistics, to provide an alternative evaluation of the administration’s record on immigration enforcement that is based on raw statistics rather than pre-packaged press kits. These statistics show that, contrary to what is commonly believed, in fact immigration enforcement in the interior has slowed significantly in the last few years. ICE is arresting and removing noticeably fewer illegal aliens from the interior now than was the case five years ago, and even two years ago. Its focus has shifted away from interior enforcement in favor of processing aliens who are apprehended by the Border Patrol.

While the agency claims that it has stewarded resources effectively by guiding agents to hone in on criminals, in fact the number of criminal aliens removed from the interior also has declined, even as ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations division (ERO) is notified of more arrested criminal aliens than ever before, through the Secure Communities program. These statistics stand in stark contrast to claims of “record deportations,” which largely have been taken at face value by the news media and many lawmakers.

The report also presents previously unpublished statistics disclosing the startlingly large number of cases on ICE’s post-final-order docket of aliens who have been ordered removed, but who remain living here in defiance of immigration enforcement. These “non-departed” illegal aliens are emblematic of the dysfunction in our immigration system, and must become a priority for enforcement before public trust in our system can be restored.

Key Findings:

The number of deportations resulting from interior enforcement by ICE declined by 19 percent from 2011 to 2012, and is on track to decline another 22 percent in 2013.

In 2012, the year the Obama administration claimed to break enforcement records, more than one-half of removals attributed to ICE were the result of Border Patrol arrests that would never have been counted as a removal in prior years. In 2008, under the Bush administration, only one-third of removals were from Border Patrol arrests.

Total deportations in 2011, the latest year for which complete numbers are available, numbered 715,495 – the lowest level since 1973. The highest number of deportations on record was in 2000, under the Clinton administration, when 1,864,343 aliens were deported.

When claiming record levels of enforcement, the Obama administration appears to count only removals, which are just one form of deportation, and only a partial measure of enforcement. Beginning in 2011, a shift of some of the routine Border Patrol case load to ICE enabled the administration to count an artificially high number of removals.

Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), the division of ICE that is responsible for work site enforcement, combating transnational gangs, overstay enforcement, anti-smuggling and trafficking activity, and busting document and identity theft rings, now contributes very little to immigration enforcement. In 2013 HSI has produced only four percent of ICE deportations, making just a few thousand arrests per year throughout the entire country.

ICE is doing less enforcement with more resources. Despite reporting more encounters in 2013 than 2012, ICE agents pursued deportation of 20 percent fewer aliens this year than last.

Enforcement activity declined in every ICE field office from 2011 to 2013, with the biggest declines in the Atlanta, Salt Lake City, Washington DC/Virginia, and Houston field offices.

Criminal alien arrests declined by 11 percent from 2012 to 2013, despite the completion of the Secure Communities program, which generates more referrals of arrested aliens than ever before. ICE agents took a pass on hundreds of thousands of aliens who were arrested by local authorities in those years.

ICE is carrying a case load of 1.8 million aliens who are either in removal proceedings or have already been ordered removed. Less than two percent are in detention, which is the only proven way to ensure departure.

As of the end of July 2013 there were 872,000 aliens – nearly half of ICE’s total docket – who had been ordered removed but who had not left the country.

The State Department continues to issue tens of thousands of visas annually to citizens of countries that refuse to take back their countrymen who are ordered removed from the United States. Many of these are violent criminals.


46 posted on 02/09/2014 7:12:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: bray; ROCKLOBSTER

Thanks for the information on Ingraham v. Will and Juan. I’ve been avoiding FNS for a few weeks because it’s been so predictable. I’ll watch it today for the fireworks.


47 posted on 02/09/2014 7:13:45 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Gritty

You nailed it Gritty! At the heart of this battle is the same one that has been going on since creation. Man is inherently evil and they are promoting that evilness for their own gains.

To eliminate the church would and always has been their ultimate goal. Every communist society is atheistic for a reason and that is to make your leaders into godlike images. Homosexual marriage is their tool to close down the churches.


48 posted on 02/09/2014 7:13:57 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas: www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Bernard
I missed that comment but heard most of the rest. The guy was lying so much, so fast it was hard to keep up. "97% of scientists think global warming is settled science",on and on and on, tar sands are the dirtiest oil on the planet--why the hell does he think the pipeline goes to Texas where it is refined? Just plain idiots.

Whether the pipeline goes to Vancouver and then to China or Texas and than where ever its another million barrels per day on the market which will not increase but decrease the price of oil.What a putz.

49 posted on 02/09/2014 7:14:11 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

After the SOTU the Republicans met for a retreat on the Eastern Shore of MD. Boehner and the rest of the ‘leadership’ heard from the ‘rank and file’ Representatives. I don’t think that Rush is responsible for the change in plans re immigration reform. It was those men and women elected by TEA party conservatives who convinced Boehner to say what he said about Obama.

Of course any victory, no matter how small, for the real conservatives will not be reported in the press.


50 posted on 02/09/2014 7:14:54 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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