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CVS tobacco ban just the start. Next: soda
The Boston Globe ^ | February 8, 2014 | Derrick Z. Jackson

Posted on 02/09/2014 2:20:11 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: libertarian27; Popman

I wondered the same. No one does that for any product.


61 posted on 02/09/2014 7:20:53 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: libertarian27
What? Where are you going with that?

My point is cigs are addictive, and people will smoke even when they know it's a bad unhealthy habit...CVS seems to not want to contribute to that problem...

We have free association to buy products we want...soda and energy drinks are not addictive so everybody makes the decision on their own to buy them...

Why would CVS drop them even when they do pose a health concern when people freely buy them by choice...as opposed to cigs...

62 posted on 02/09/2014 7:23:21 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Repeal The 17th
...now they won’t have to keep an employee of legal smoking age behind the front counter in order to sell them.

Didn't think about that...

Plus all the training costs that go along with informing new employees of the rules and penalties...

63 posted on 02/09/2014 7:26:21 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: John W

see post # 62


64 posted on 02/09/2014 7:28:12 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JRandomFreeper
There are many more people buying Bugler these days than 5 years ago because of the cost of ready-made cigarettes. For the same money, you get more smokes out of a package of Bugler than a pack of Marlboros.

Yeah....sort of.

I have been doing "Make Your Own" (MYO) for many years which comprises empty cigarette tubes, tobacco and a machine to inject the tobacco into the empty cigarette sleeves.

One of the very first actions by Obama was to raise the tax on bulk tobacco. He raised the tax on loose cigarette tobacco by 2225%!. A pound of cigarette tobacco went from about $15 a pound to $60. (making a "rolled" cigarette the same price as a "store bought")

Ah....but a loophole was found. When raising tobacco prices across the board, they only bumped pipe tobacco a $1 a pound. According to some regulation, pipe tobacco can come in two types of cuts. A short, chunky chipped type found in, say, Prince Albert, or a longer leaf. Historically, most pipe tobaccos have been flavored but under definition, that is not necessary. The new "smooth" pipe tobacco is a longer leaf, unflavored product.

The longer leaf is still shorter and not perfect for cigarette stuffing, but when you are talking about $.80 a pack (internet purchase) that's a small price to pay.

So to get back to my nitpicking point, Bugler Cigarette Tobacco will cost the same as Marlboro. Bugler Smooth Pipe Tobacco will keep you at about $10/carton.

65 posted on 02/09/2014 7:30:03 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this is a massive strategic mistake.

It was smart to not sell cigarettes. I know there are smokers here who will disagree with me, but as a former smoker I am no longer in favor of cigarettes and/or other tobacco products in a “healthy” store.

But going beyond the actual carcinogenic properties of cigarettes to twerk America’s eating habits, will be strongly counter-productive to their sales.

This is a massive mistake.

I predict it will be overturned almost immediately.


66 posted on 02/09/2014 7:31:54 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Importantly, cigarettes are both low volume and high margin for retailers, despite the greedy federal and state taxes, so I imagine that CVS is going to take a hit to the bottom line, and get nothing out of the deal.

You may be right, but I'd bet when you factor in all the costs (there are many) associated with selling tobacco, it's a break even for CVS...

Retailers just don't cut out profits for altruistic reasons...

67 posted on 02/09/2014 7:33:23 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman
We have free association to buy products we want...soda and energy drinks are not addictive so everybody makes the decision on their own to buy them...

We "have" free association to buy products we want....
nicotine may be addictive for most but caffeine is also addictive for many and alcohol too (CVS sells booze in many stores)...sugar is addictive - ask a Diabetic that can't 'shake' their sugar consumption and takes a needle to compensate.
Nicotine may be addictive but more people quit than smoke now - so it isn't fully 'no choice' addictive...just like sugar, caffeine and alcohol...et al.

68 posted on 02/09/2014 7:41:29 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep me too- wont be going to CVS. Hypocritical to ban cigs while continuing to sell: Chips, candy, ice cream, pop, processed donuts, monster drinks, etc.

Those items cause obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes.


69 posted on 02/09/2014 7:43:08 AM PST by Engedi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The closest drug store to my house is a CVS.I went in there once and it was like a sleazy convenience store. I never went back and it has nothing to do with tobacco.
70 posted on 02/09/2014 7:47:38 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Fzob

I agree with you 100%.

It is their business and if they want to get rid of tobacco because it “isn’t healthy” than that’s there business.

I do find it a touch ironic to get rid of tobacco, but you can still buy beer there.


71 posted on 02/09/2014 7:48:09 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Popman
Retailers just don't cut out profits for altruistic reasons...

Sure they do....
Hence the phrase "Politically Correct"
.....it's not just for politicians....

What I find amusing is that with a $2 Billion cut in sales of this product, out of that...CVS will be 'paying' the Government -Fed/State- about $1 Billion less in taxation.

72 posted on 02/09/2014 7:52:12 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: libertarian27
You have a strange definition of addiction...

caffeine is also addictive

Not true...I cut down from several cups a day to one in the morning...if I quit cold turkey, I'd get a minor headache for a day...no rehab for me..

sugar is addictive - ask a Diabetic that can't 'shake' their sugar consumption and takes a needle to compensate.

Since I am diabetic, I can assure you that is complete and utter nonsense...

What you are describing is not an addiction, but very poor self control...I hate eating products with sugar, it makes me feel like crap and stay away from it as much as possible...

73 posted on 02/09/2014 7:52:17 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: libertarian27

About that $2 Billion —

Is that profit, or gross sales?


74 posted on 02/09/2014 7:58:53 AM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Popman

“Getting rid of beer and wine sales ...”

And get rid of parking lots for those evil gas burning cars.


75 posted on 02/09/2014 8:02:05 AM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: libertarian27
"Retailers just don't cut out profits for altruistic reasons"...

Sure they do.... Hence the phrase "Politically Correct" .....it's not just for politicians....

Retailers when they make PC decisions, they take into consideration how the long term profits will be impacted...

If by being PC they escape some left wing moonbat organization demonizing their brand name, it's a good decision couched in A PC statement

76 posted on 02/09/2014 8:02:29 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

People stop smoking cold turkey everyday. Some people just don’t want to quit.


77 posted on 02/09/2014 8:03:30 AM PST by Artcore
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, we all know what is good for us. I applause this company as a conservative...yes...a rare breed that is putting the almighy $ behind what is right for people! Not the other way around.


78 posted on 02/09/2014 8:04:52 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since you can buy soda with food stamps, but not cigarettes, I’m guessing they’ll keep selling soda. Wouldn’t want to miss out on that gravy train.


79 posted on 02/09/2014 8:05:22 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't forget this little ditty from March 2013:

Employees at retail giant CVS Caremark will have to pay a hefty $600-a-year penalty for not disclosing their weight and other personal health data to the company’s benefits firm, under a new health policy that many prominent patient rights advocates are calling invasive.

80 posted on 02/09/2014 8:10:26 AM PST by cincinnati65
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