Posted on 01/29/2014 11:00:39 AM PST by MNDude
I have some questions for those are are employers or those who are involved in the hiring process.
1. What is your experience with hiring and employing Millennials vs. previous generations?
2. What is your experience with hiring and employing liberals vs. conservatives?
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We jokingly have a policy here that we only hire people over 40 because they show up for work and don’t have an entitled attitude. We once hired someone who was first in their class at the local vocational school and she had all of her awards and certificates in a nice portfolio. She lasted three months. She felt it was beneath her to help out in the plant when we needed it and she had the shortest tenure. As we are in a smaller town, there are no liberals or if there are, they keep it well hidden.
Keeping in mind my experience in hiring folks born after 1980 are mostly folks with an engineering degree...
They have adapted to technologies changes quicker, and like most of us when that young, don't value experience enough. A couple decades of watching yourself and others make signficant mistakes teach a lot of "don't do that again..."
Not enough experience hiring the younger designers over engineers. I have hired some, but to few to generalize.
We hire heavy equipment operators and laborers at my company. No way to determine political leanings, many don’t even have any. I had one young man (wearing what I call ‘dookie pants’, tattoos, and an earring) ask this as his first question “What benefits does your company have?” I told him a paycheck every Friday.
The long-timers know this is a job that depends on the weather, so you need to be cautious with your money. Many of the younger ones don’t last through a hot summer, but there are just as many who do and go on to work here for years, off and on.
Working in oil, gas and petrochem, they tend to be an endangered species...
My daughter and her husband are millenials. She is conservative he more libertarian. BOTH are hard working great adults. They have a home and pay their bills on time. They are motivated and have a life plan.
There are lots of young adults out there like this. You only here about the self entitled ones.
They have good boundaries and do not let their work brow beat them. They do an honest day’s work. They have common sense ( they stayed home and did not go to work on the day of the big storm because where they live is easily snowed in). They were not out there on icy roads trying to drive when driving was impossible.
I am proud of them.
I would say that millennial, more than previous generations, divide into two groups; really entitled and hard working. I think previous generations had a more “normal” distribution of just one hump centered around reasonably competent.
I had 28 mostly young professionals a while back. It was an extremely diverse bunch. The kids who had gone to high school in foreign countries were infinitely better at speaking and writing English than the Americans. Blacks from Africa had zero sense of entitlement whereas blacks from the US felt they should be decorative rather than contributors. (One of them sued us for discrimination, accusing a Russian of dissing him because he referred to his job as monkey’s work. At the hearing (Some kind of EOE race thing) the Russian produced literature from either Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy making reference in a non-racial way to monkey’s work. We were the first ever company this particular black judge let off the hook. It wasn’t even a comment made to or intended for that guy. He just overheard it when the Russian, an inventor, was asked to help the black guy out. “What for you make me do this monkey’s work?”)
1. What is your experience with hiring and employing Millennials vs. previous generations?
I have not had any serious problems with Millennials, beyond the problems I had with younger employees from previous generations. They tend to be overconfident, have too little experience, and learn from their own mistakes the way that their parents did. I’m okay with them overall.
2. What is your experience with hiring and employing liberals vs. conservatives?
As for liberals, I have found that of the twenty or so hires who turned out to be serious problems, all were liberals. My thieves (who steals from a polling firm???) were all liberals. Both liars who fudged their data (MAJOR embarrassment!) were liberals. Everyone I ever fired during normal operations was a liberal, no exceptions. When I finally shut down the company, I cut the remaining liberals off (anyone who supported Obama had their job eliminated) and set the conservatives up in business for themselves or searched for jobs for them if they didn’t want to be self-employed. I would never again knowingly hire a liberal - they have the shady morals and the minimal work ethic of Barack Obama.
” They have common sense ( they stayed home and did not go to work on the day of the big storm because where they live is easily snowed in). They were not out there on icy roads trying to drive when driving was impossible.”
They would be fired any place I ever worked. The rule was...weather related excuses were only accepted if less than 50% were able to make it in, and that almost never happened.
Interesting observation. I had a guy a number of years back who was born in Nigeria and spent time living in England. In addition to having zero sense of entitlement, he had perhaps the most elegant written English I have ever seen.
Plus he was a very devout Christian, as Christians in Nigeria are under constant siege from Muslims.
If he had arrived in this country as a slightly younger man, a handful of NFL teams would likely have offered him a tryout. Big, powerful guy.
“Plus he was a very devout Christian, as Christians in Nigeria are under constant siege from Muslims.”
The handful of Nigerian’s I’ve met have been competent and Christian. Very refreshing.
If I was hiring, the first thing I’d do is look up any candidates on the public court records website to see if they are criminals.
Here in WI, we have:
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl
Too bad for your employers. The fact is that the roads are glazed ice and no one should be out in them. For everyone who has made fun of the Atlantans who are stuck in the mess that this storm has left, they should try driving on black ice and glazed ice with front wheel drive cars, no snow tires or chains, and most not knowing how to drive in bad weather of any type.
Since bad weather almost never happened where you are you are lucky. One of my daughter’s co-workers tried to be a good worker and started out in the snow, ended up in the ditch with a wrecked car. At that point corporate said everyone go home. My son in law’s co worker went to work and just an hour ago got out of the traffic disaster that was.
As I said mine have good boundaries. Unless you are one of those emergency workers who HAS to be out there you shouldn’t be
“Since bad weather almost never happened where you are you are lucky.”
Huh? No bad weather in Michigan?
I said they don’t allow weather to be used as an excuse, not that we don’t have it.
The employers expect you to get to work on time every day, and if you have to own a 4x4 with tire-chains or ride a snowmobile to do so that is what you have to do.
Georgia has 40 snow plows for the entire state. We do not get the kind of weather some northern climes get.
When I lived in such an area there were very few times that weather would keep people from work or school. But it did happen.
When one cannot get to work because of weather ( and it could be anything from tornado outbreaks to hurricanes to (for the south) the odd snow storm, then the wise thing to do is to stay home. Unless you are a brain surgeon who has an emergency call or some other emergency personnel, most people should be at home to stay out of the way of those who have emergency jobs.
I am not saying that at the first snow flake or the first rain drop that one should stay home. That is not what happened here.
This whole conversation started off with my saying that my kids have good boundaries. They do and I learn from them all the time. One can work from home but my daughter cannot. She does home based medical care. She has been in touch with her patients. She has handled things over the phone. But the roads she travels are nothing but black ice currently.... even with a bit of sunshine. Her patients don’t want her to come because their drive ways and paths to their homes are impassable ( and these folks do have four wheel drive). She would prefer to see her patients but she will not put her life at risk to see a non emergency patient.
People here do not have snow mobiles or chains. Because you live where weather is more severe in the winter gives you no perspective of what happens when the freak storm happens in the south. I would submit that if a tornado watch was out and you were told to shelter in place you would do so. If not there is nothing I can explain to you
Oh and I guess I should tell the other side of this. In 2011 when another storm hit Georgia it hit late at night. My daunter was working second shift at a hospital in those days. She took extra clothes and everything she needed to stay longer if needed. The storm started before her shift was done. The following nurse was already stranded. My daughter stayed and spent the next five days at the hospital until others could come in and work. She ate and slept there.
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