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Alcohol vs. Marijuana (Part 1)
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2014 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 01/28/2014 4:11:40 AM PST by Kaslin

I understand the arguments for the legalization of marijuana: It can generate tax revenue. It can reduce illegal supply and demand. It can strip power from cartels and lessen crime across and at our borders. And it isn't so dangerous as other illegal drugs or alcohol.

President Barack Obama even claimed one of those arguments when he recently told New Yorker Editor David Remnick, "As has been well-documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life."

Obama explained, "(Smoking marijuana is) not something I encourage, and I've told my daughters I think it's a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy." But then he added, "I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol."

With the president entering the cannabis conversation ring, debate has intensified around the nation. But what's the truth in the alcohol-vs.-marijuana dispute?

CNN recently reported on some extensive studies and evidence surrounding the topic, especially in comparing use, addiction, withdrawal and the effects on using motorized vehicles. Let me summarize those and cite some others. (Next week, I will discuss in greater detail how alcohol and marijuana compare in their effects on our minds, bodies and relationships.)

According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, alcohol remains the leading addictive substance consumed in the U.S. But according to the Drug Enforcement Administration, marijuana is categorized as a Schedule I substance -- in the same classification as heroin, LSD and Ecstasy. The National Institute on Drug Abuse points out that 9 percent of marijuana users will become addicted to it. (By comparison, about 20 percent of cocaine users become addicted.) More than 4 million people abused pot or had an addiction problem with it in 2011, according to Fox News.

Alcoholics can suffer from the following withdrawal symptoms: depression, anxiety, insomnia, headaches, fever, nausea and even seizures. And CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, explained, "There is clear evidence that in some people, marijuana use can lead to withdrawal symptoms, including insomnia, anxiety and nausea." The National Institute on Drug Abuse added that the drug is linked to "school failure" and that high doses "can cause psychosis or panic when you're high," according to Fox News.

Of course, we know the dangers of drinking alcohol and driving. Similarly, a recent study published in the British Medical Journal showed that marijuana users who drove within three hours of smoking nearly doubled their chances of causing a crash compared with sober drivers. And the American Society of Addiction Medicine just released a statement saying the drug "impairs memory, motor function and respiratory health when smoked -- and can be addictive."

To say marijuana isn't so dangerous as alcohol is like saying a plain doughnut isn't so bad for us as a glazed one. The point is what? Wouldn't it simply be better to ditch the doughnuts from our diets and try whole-wheat toast with organic peanut butter and sliced bananas as a more nutritious way to start our days?

It suffices to say here that justifying the use of one drug because it's not so dangerous as another drug is weak reasoning in any book and bad grounds for justifying usage of either of them. And such a statement coming from a sitting president of the United States is simply reckless leadership run amok.

As far as why the president gave his pro-marijuana comments to The New Yorker, I think Donald Moorse, a Portland, Ore., medical marijuana dispensary owner, hit the cannabis nail right on the head: The president's views "will influence people throughout the country. I think that's why he made the comments."

And how does the president justify his pro-marijuana stance? He believes that if marijuana is legalized, fewer young blacks and Latinos will be imprisoned.

Obama said about the legalization of pot in Washington and Colorado: "It's important for it to go forward because it's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished."

And he explained who those "select few" are when he said: "Middle-class kids don't get locked up for smoking pot, and poor kids do. And African-American kids and Latino kids are more likely to be poor and less likely to have the resources and the support to avoid unduly harsh penalties."

Fox News summarized that "the president echoed the argument that pro-legalization advocates often make, stressing the cost to society of locking up minor drug offenders."

So let me get this straight: If pot is legalized, we pay less to incarcerate minor drug offenders by unleashing and increasing major pot smokers and smoking in every stratum of society as if there will be no price to pay -- personal, monetary or otherwise -- in doing so?

No wonder the Drug Free America Foundation said on its website this past week about Obama: "His laissez-faire attitude about legalization has drug policy and prevention experts scratching their heads in confusion as to why the President will not give clear guidance on this important issue."

The foundation went on to say, "President Obama is surrounded by ... myriad ... experts who have voiced serious concerns about the harms of marijuana and rejected legalization, so either he is seriously ill-informed about the issue or is completely ignoring warnings from his highly-esteemed advisers."

Fox News also noted that Obama's own Office of National Drug Control Policy "lists a range of negative health and mental consequences from the drug, including schizophrenia, lower IQ ('as much as an 8 point drop') and higher risk of heart attack."

More double talk and more double standards from the White House. How shocking.

Remember the days when presidents modeled and espoused healthy living, beginning by denouncing drug use rather than justifying it?

Maybe it's time we fight all addictive drugs instead of making excuses for using them. Maybe it's time we teach and model for young people that life can be good enough on its own merit without altering reality by drug use.

I'm not here making a case for or against the medicinal use of marijuana. However, it's very difficult for me to believe that America, average healthy Americans and particularly our younger generations are going to be better off with pot's legalization.

I'm all for freedom, but when liberty turns into licentiousness, it's time to reconsider why we're doing what we're doing. Just because we can doesn't mean we should. And if that's the case, what other illicit passion is going to be next in the lineup of legalization?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alcohol; dopes; health; madd; marijuana; neoprohibition; safety; states; temperancemovmeent
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1 posted on 01/28/2014 4:11:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So we need government to tell us what we can consume and what we cannot. Hurray!


2 posted on 01/28/2014 4:13:56 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Chuck Norris didn’t say that


3 posted on 01/28/2014 4:16:41 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

thanks for this

bookmark


4 posted on 01/28/2014 4:18:25 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Kaslin

Decriminalize don’t legalize


5 posted on 01/28/2014 4:18:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Three things to consider:

Will it improve lives of adults and children?
Will it be neutral in its effects?
Will it be harmful?

The giddy rush to spread legalization is following the same pattern as same-sex marriage. The libs have perfected their media marketing method of causing instant change in our opinions and then our society. We rarely look ahead to what WE see as unintended consequences. THEY, however, intend those consequences to be a surprise to us.

Rapid change in a society is potentially disastrous, and that is the obama plan. “Change but forget the Hope.”


6 posted on 01/28/2014 4:30:16 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Kaslin

It’s not a matter of the degree of badness(!). Alcohol is often consumed for reasons other than intoxication, while marijuana is almost never consumed for reasons other than intoxication, except for medical uses.

The main issue is if the government has a role in this at all, and it is being fought over where is should be - in the states. The Federal government has no Constitutionally sanctioned role in this.


7 posted on 01/28/2014 4:53:39 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Kaslin

Leave it to the voters of the several states. This is a states rights issue. The Feds can kindly butt out.


8 posted on 01/28/2014 4:53:52 AM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Kaslin
Close enough =>

"To say marijuana isn't so dangerous as alcohol is like saying a plain doughnut isn't so bad for us as a glazed one. The point is what? Wouldn't it simply be better to ditch the doughnuts from our diets and try whole-wheat toast with organic peanut butter and sliced bananas as a more nutritious way to start our days?"

9 posted on 01/28/2014 5:09:34 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

If the litmus test to good legislation is

Will it improve the lives of adults and children?
Will it be neutral in it’s effects?
Will it be harmful?

...than shouldn’t we pass laws that mandate every American to wake up early in the morning, excerise for two hours, and then eat granola and peanut butter to start the day. Arguably that would create a healthier society with less obesity, which according to the above would be a good thing. There really isn’t much harm in excercise and a good diet, right?

But that goes entirely against the grain of liberty, which allows people to sleep until noon, eat sugary and unhealthy cereal instead of granola and peanut butter, and sit on the couch.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 5:21:08 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Kaslin

Here we go again. So which Freeper with LDS will weigh in first?


11 posted on 01/28/2014 5:28:54 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Ueriah

I’m not proposing it as a litmus test for legislation.

I’m asking people to think about legalizing weed. I’ve never met any adult or child who was better stoned. At least THEY think they are better.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 5:34:46 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Daveinyork

Other than toasting in celebration and partaking of the Eucharist, if you are Catholic, what other reasons are there to consume alcohol? How many drinkers do you know who take a few sips from a glass a few times a year?

I agree with your sentiment though. The government has no right to legislate people health, well being or productivity.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 5:49:36 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Kaslin
If you try to make a buck from pot you should go to jail. The fact is that, regardless whether you live in a bachelor apartment or a 1,000 acre ranch, anyone can grow enough maryjane for personal use.
14 posted on 01/28/2014 5:55:15 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Jack of all Trades

>Other than toasting in celebration and partaking of the Eucharist, if you are Catholic, what other reasons are there to consume alcohol? How many drinkers do you know who take a few sips from a glass a few times a year?<

Alcohol kills so many people. Alcoholism is a disease that not only destroys its victims, but it also can and does destroy the victim’s family members. That said, it’s legal and history has shown that making it illegal caused crime to skyrocket.

Decriminalizing marijuana should possibly be considered; because we know making it illegal does not lessen its use and it most obviously causes crime, rather than stops it.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 6:01:53 AM PST by Darnright (To reach something good, it is very useful to have gone astray, and thus acquire experience.)
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To: Darnright; All

How anyone can smoke that stinking weed is beyond me


16 posted on 01/28/2014 6:04:34 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Jack of all Trades

I’m Jewish. We have many occasions for partaking of potent potables, and for thanking the almighty for providing the occasions and the fruit of the vine.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 6:10:46 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Kaslin
My experience with pot was along time ago (over 40 years) and I'll admit I smoked a bunch of it. In 1970 I was dropped off at FOB Bastogne in the A Shau Valley with D Company 1/502d. Drinking are getting high seemed to be a common past time and the pot we smoked was nothing like what we had in the US. Since I wasn't much of a drinker I hung out with the “Head's” (term we used for the smokers). The drinkers were aways arguing or fighting over one thing or another and most of the time sick in the morning's and pretty slow moving. The heads were just the opposite and had no problem performing the daily BS stuff we all had to do. 3 time we got hit, once in the early morning and twice at night, the two night time hits I and my buddies were laying back getting stoned. When the mortars started hitting it's like we woke up and all moved to our positions with no hint that any of us were impaired but the drinkers were staggering around trying not to fall down. Later I hear it described as a “buzz kill” and I can not think of a better description, it was like the effects of the pot just disappeared. Another thing I noticed was the speed with which we got to our guns and could get rounds out (8 inch howitzers), our gun was always the first to get rounds out up or down the valley. I guess what I'm saying is pot in my opinion impaired us less that alcohol. Should we have been doing any of this my answer is NO but it was what it was. Can't believe I shared that.
18 posted on 01/28/2014 6:11:07 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: GSWarrior

“Here we go again. So which Freeper with LDS will weigh in first?”

Latter Day Saints? What do the Mormons have to do with it?


19 posted on 01/28/2014 6:11:40 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: cripplecreek

Is there a difference?


20 posted on 01/28/2014 6:12:02 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“Will it improve lives of adults and children?
Will it be neutral in its effects?
Will it be harmful?”

None of which is the business of the government


21 posted on 01/28/2014 6:13:39 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thank you... I particularly like the first question. The big excitement by a bunch of dopers to have every one join in is beyond pathetic. I have yet to see a documented case where Marinol is not effective for the medical user. I do not care what one thinks they know about marijuana providers, one cannot guarantee dosage or effectiveness.

Because some doofus wants to get high is not a reason to make it available. Plus the argument that it is no worse than alcohol is really bogus.


22 posted on 01/28/2014 6:17:06 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Ronin
Leave it to the voters of the several states. This is a states rights issue. The Feds can kindly butt out.

Indeed. There is no enumerated power that authorizes the federal government to legalize marijuana.

23 posted on 01/28/2014 6:21:02 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Kaslin

I think it is interesting that the same people that want to ban smoking want to legalize pot, Hmmmm!


24 posted on 01/28/2014 6:26:55 AM PST by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
Dear Jack of all Trades,

“Other than toasting in celebration and partaking of the Eucharist, if you are Catholic, what other reasons are there to consume alcohol? How many drinkers do you know who take a few sips from a glass a few times a year?”

If I go to a Knights of Columbus event, it's quite likely that there will be beer, and perhaps wine. Many folks won't drink any of it, but many will have a beer. Or two. Or even three or four over the course of a long day. Or a few glasses of wine.

Nearly everyone I know drinks. And everyone I know who drinks does so socially and responsibly. In my own house, we typically have between a half-case and a case of wine in at any one time. We cook with some of it, but we drink the rest. A glass (or sometimes two) with dinner. Fairly ordinary for us. I have scotch, bourbon, rum and other hard liquors in the house. We drink those less often, but nonetheless, they get consumed over time.

My parents taught us to drink alcohol from an early age. I was four when I'd sip my father's nightly beer with dinner. Yup - four years old. I was little older at my introduction to scotch. I've just never had a problem drinking. I raised my own children similarly. My son goes to college on a campus where binge drinking is a notorious problem. He's the fellow who helps the more drunken ones back to their dorm rooms after they've puked their guts up.

The attitude toward alcohol that is prevalent in American society is purely insane. Don't drink a drop of alcohol till you're 21!!! Then, magically, the beer fairy will tap you on your head and you will be “ready” to drink! But not really! You'd be better off without the evil vice! But don't worry - if you just wait until you're 21, you'll do fine!

Drinking alcohol is ultimately a behavior that requires adult supervision and adult judgment. But learning those behaviors and judgment don't come at the blink of an eye at midnight on one’s 21st birthday. Ideally, children should be taught to drink moderately and responsibly. They should be explicitly taught when it is acceptable to drink and when it is not. How much is acceptable, how much is not. When to avoid alcohol, when to indulge. How to drink, how not to drink. The dangers of alcohol, the pleasures of it. How to select a good wine, a decent wine, an enjoyable beer, a fine liquor.

If parents teach their children what to do with this stuff when their children are young, their children will know what to do, will know how to behave as adults, and how to supervise themselves as adults when they turn 21.

My parents raised four children by this rule. We're a motley crew. Between us, there are three divorces, four failed marriages, mental illness, homelessness at times, financial problems, you name it. But none of us has ever had a problem with alcohol. Except my older brother, who died, we're all light, social drinkers. Yet, none of us were ever forbidden to drink by our parents, only that we learn to drink moderately and appropriately.

Sorry, I just don't know what in the world you're talking about. Lots of folks drink regularly or semi-regularly, with meals, in the context of social events, without overimbibing.


sitetest

25 posted on 01/28/2014 6:29:56 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Finally! Someone who references Miranol for medicinal uses.

Here’s my story: I was born with epilepsy. By the age of five or six I was having multiple seizures a week. They put my on a whole slew of drugs, some of which helped reduce the frequency of my seizures significantly, although I have to say that the side effects with sythetic drugs are really, really brutal in terms of mood swings and completely killing your libido.

Fast forward to my 20s, I start using cannabis. Seizures stop entirely. I stop using the sythetic drugs and starting just smoking pot to control my seizures. Where drugs like Depokate were able to get my seizures down to one every couple of months, cannabis cleared them up 100%.

Talked to my neurologist about it, and he said that it’s known that pot prevents seizures, but that it can damage your lungs from the smoke. Compared to the other manmade drugs that damange your liver and your kidneys. I asked him, “well, what if I use a vaporizer so my lungs don’t get hammered?” and he told me to do what works for me.

I’m glad that you said Merinol. I haven’t tried it but I’ve heard about it. Although I’d be willing to see if it worked for me, I’m naturally a little skeptical about using man made synthetic drugs instead of a plant that’s naturally occurring.


26 posted on 01/28/2014 6:34:28 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Daveinyork; ansel12; GeronL

“Will it improve lives of adults and children?
Will it be neutral in its effects?
Will it be harmful?”

None of which is the business of the government

 

 

Great Answer! Too bad the question was relative to legalizing child pornography.

You see, if you think the harm marijuana does to the user and to society is of no business to the government; then you also hold immoral and liberal viewpoints on other social concerns like porn and abortion.

 

27 posted on 01/28/2014 6:38:50 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: sitetest
” I was four when I'd sip my father's nightly beer with dinner. “

Well that brought back some old memories! Dad would send me to frig to bring him a beer and I always got that first cold sip, dad called it the cream off the top!

28 posted on 01/28/2014 6:41:59 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Kaslin

So is the writer in favor of Alcohol Prohibition? If not, why not? He makes an excellent case that while pot is horrible and worthy of prohibition, alcohol is at least equally bad.

How DID that whole alcohol prohibition thingie work out for us? I do remember from my history class that we have had that experiment.

WTF dude (author of the article). Can’t you learn from history?


29 posted on 01/28/2014 6:46:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In your never so humble opinion, which has nothing to do with anyone else, and the question was NOT regarding kiddie porn. It’s about intoxicants, of which you seem to be partaking of large quantities.


30 posted on 01/28/2014 6:48:51 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Jack of all Trades
Other than toasting in celebration and partaking of the Eucharist, if you are Catholic, what other reasons are there to consume alcohol?

I'm not a Catholic, so please forgive my intrusion. I was just reading why Matt Drudge might have tweeted "Have an Exit Plan" after having read about the weakening and soon collapse of our Earth's magnetic field and the radiological and societal chaos to follow, so my thoughts are in the post-SHTF frequency range at the moment thinking about food and clean water.

The fermented drinks, from almost no alcohol kombucha through progressively higher content wines, beers and ales, are full of things that are good for you and the alcohol kills off the bad. (Nice combo. Thank you, Father.)

Regarding drinking alcohol, I think it depends upon your intent and remember that "all things in moderation" is a good place to stay.

Best not to give Jesus a rival or Satan an opening.

Most have seen or know what "too much" looks or feels like. Many know the disgust, some the heartache, and a few know the horrors, of cleaning it up.

Those are but a few of the not-so-fine print warnings about misuse and abuse, written on the label of life by the Creator Himself, meaning that you really don't want to be, be around or have your kids grow up around alcoholism.

31 posted on 01/28/2014 6:49:06 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: sitetest

You do it your way, and I’ll do it mine. I’ve talked to my son about alcohol, and I’ve advised him to not touch it until he’s college age. Early exposure to alcohol is the nearly universal experience in alcoholics that I’ve talked to, and I’ve talked to a lot. Young brains (pre-teen and teen) are are wiring themselves for the future, and early exposure to alcohol can wire them for an affinity to it. Your anecdotal success doesn’t dissuade me. I’m comfortable keeping an alcohol free house, and doing all in my power to prevent my children from consuming it.


32 posted on 01/28/2014 6:55:39 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Kaslin
And how does the president justify his pro-marijuana stance? He believes that if marijuana is legalized, fewer young blacks and Latinos will be imprisoned.

Except that every one of those yutes will be in violation for schmoking under the age of 18/21.

33 posted on 01/28/2014 7:11:26 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Dusty Road

We called it “taxes,” LOL!


34 posted on 01/28/2014 7:18:36 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Kaslin
Obama said about the legalization of pot in Washington and Colorado: "It's important for it to go forward because it's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished."

Then they definitely should reconsider the 0.08BAC DWI laws (that are being pushed downward to 0.03BAC). MADD and trial lawyers and making good bank on them (so are ever vigilant legislators seeking re-election). Then again, if you no hablo engles, you may be cut loose to kill later. It's about revenue, not public safety.

35 posted on 01/28/2014 7:20:53 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Kaslin
We need to think in terms of punishing bad behavior, and not banning things as a way of avoiding the personal responsibility issues (i.e. banning guns because of some people misusing them).

If someone shows up for work stoned, it's just as bad as showing up drunk. If someone drives under the influence of anything, that's their own bad choice.

Some say that drinkers don't drink to get wasted, while there's no reason for smoking pot EXCEPT to get stoned. I disagree... I think teenagers do drink (or smoke pot) to get wasted... and some adults do as well. I also know many responsible adults who do smoke pot... in their off time, in order to simply relax... no different than having an after-dinner drink.

Regardless of the substance, there are responsible people and there are irresponsible people, and it should come down to personal responsibility for one's choices in life.

36 posted on 01/28/2014 7:34:51 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Responsibility2nd

Kiddie porn is NOT between consenting adults. There are victims there. That makes it the government’s business.


37 posted on 01/28/2014 8:02:52 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: tacticalogic

There is no enumerated power that authorizes the federal government to legalize marijuana.

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LOL.

You are a bit too subtle for many here, I believe.


38 posted on 01/28/2014 8:14:27 AM PST by dmz
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To: Jack of all Trades
Dear Jack of all Trades,

Forgive my skepticism toward, “Young brains (pre-teen and teen) are are wiring themselves for the future, and early exposure to alcohol can wire them for an affinity to it.”

I've also been told by “experts” that pre-adolescent and adolescent brain development preclude the ability to learn algebra much before the age of 13 or 14 and calculus before one is 17.

What may be true statistically in some sense may not have much to bear on individual experience.

I've also read that nearly everyone who got into serious drug problems drank milk as a child.

Nonetheless, parents should do those things with which they're comfortable. I was just pointing out that your initial post, “Other than toasting in celebration and partaking of the Eucharist, if you are Catholic, what other reasons are there to consume alcohol? How many drinkers do you know who take a few sips from a glass a few times a year?” flies in the face of the experience of many (most?) folks. There are plenty of folks who are light to moderate social drinkers.


sitetest

39 posted on 01/28/2014 8:51:05 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Daveinyork
None of which is the business of the government

Never said it was. It is the business of the individual to ask and answer those questions for themselves.

40 posted on 01/28/2014 9:12:34 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Responsibility2nd
Too bad the question was relative to legalizing child pornography.

The title of the article is "Alcohol vs. Marijuana.

None of which is the business of the government

I didn't say that. Someone else who responded to me said that. My words are in quotes, his aren't.

if you think the harm marijuana does to the user and to society is of no business to the government; then you also hold immoral and liberal viewpoints on other social concerns like porn and abortion.

Improper use of IF-THEN since the IF part is false. Regulation of it is the business of the government since it is harmful. You know nothing about my views on that since you misquoted me and now are making conclusions about me based on the misquote.

Long ago, I was a teacher. I had students come to my class on weed daily. That is the fault of adults who provided it to them. I am NOT in favor of legalizing marijuana for a number of reasons.

You have no right to say what I think about porn and abortion based on falsely quoting me.

Please read more carefully.

41 posted on 01/28/2014 9:27:51 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Ueriah; Nifster

I didn’t mention Miranol. That was Nifster.


42 posted on 01/28/2014 9:49:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault
Please read more carefully.

 

Please follow your own advice. I didn't quote you. I didn't respond to you. Did you state "None of which is the business of the government"? No? Then why are you whining?

43 posted on 01/28/2014 9:53:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I didn't quote you. I didn't respond to you.

You are right. I was the one who didn't read carefully. I apologize for the error and for going after you.

44 posted on 01/28/2014 10:11:46 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault

I think first you need to understand why pot was criminalized in the first place.


45 posted on 01/28/2014 10:27:31 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Daveinyork
Alcohol is often consumed for reasons other than intoxication

What other reasons?

46 posted on 01/28/2014 10:28:56 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Kaslin

Did you ever hear of anyone drinking beer and moving on to Heroin or Crack? Think about it! They don’t call marijuana the gateway drug for no reason.


47 posted on 01/28/2014 10:32:50 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Chuckster
What other reasons?

One enjoys the taste?

Are you unable to control yourself such that you can't enjoy some wine with dinner without getting drunk?

Some of us can.

48 posted on 01/28/2014 10:35:01 AM PST by Eaker (Sweat dries, blood clots and bones heal so suck it up buttercup.)
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To: Kaslin

After reading the comments so far, I have come to the conclusion that the consensus is: The government should regulate those practices of which I disapprove. Government should not regulate those practices I enjoy.


49 posted on 01/28/2014 10:36:12 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Kaslin

The whole medicinal pot legalizing is a complete scam. The active ingredient in pot has been medically available in pill form for decades.

It is just the pot heads who are scamming for being public stoners.


50 posted on 01/28/2014 10:41:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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