Skip to comments.Automatic License Plate Readers Targeting Lawful Gun Owners (Maryland)
Posted on 01/27/2014 6:29:45 PM PST by Timber Rattler
Are automatic license plate readers in Maryland alerting police when registered gun owners drive past them?
Recently we posted a story about John Filippidas, the concealed carry permit holder from Florida who was stopped on I-95 by a Maryland Transportation Authority cop. The cop detained Filippidas and his family for nearly two hours while searching the familys vehicle for the gun Filippidas legally owns. The gun was in a safe back in Florida. No ticket was issued.
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In a perfect world, states like Maryland, California, New York and Connecticut would be ejected from the United States with extreme prejudice.
Cut them loose and let them fend for themselves.
I wouldn’t put it past the jackboot ruling class to do this, but it is pretty unlikely. Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.
Adios Constitution. Where the hell is Holder? Why isn’t he suing Maryland over this? What a hypocrite. If they used these things to catch illegal aliens, Holder would be all over it like white on rice!
Computers eliminate the separation of databases.
Shows like NCIS and Person of Interest are not very far out on the timeline.
The PoPo State is essentially here.
You are a subject now rather than a citizen with public servants.
Maryland does not honor any other State’s concealed weapon permit. However, several States honor Maryland’s CWP. What is up with that? Come on Maryland gun owners, get off your arseholes and march on the capital.
It’s scapegoating going on again. Usually in places that see problems with a lot of criminal shootings, those guns aren’t being used by honest owners to do that. So targeting the honest is counterproductive!
This is of concern to the Florida legislature. The government of Maryland stepped over the line in an effort to target citizens of Florida. It is, in effect, interstate piracy. As offensive as using a speed trap to target people with out of state license plates.
The proper response, about the only response, that Florida could carry out *that would matter*, would be to declare that state weapons licenses were no longer needed. And while that would not help current license holders, the list kept by Maryland would become outdated and much less useful.
Likewise, they should immediately cut off Maryland from any police data cooperation, directly or through third parties.
So, if this is accurate, CCW permit holders can no long travel through Maryland. Given that major North South routes on the East coast traverse Maryland, this would be a real problem and call for an Economic boycott, at least.
“Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.”
LOL. Here is how it works: License plate -> insured drivers (you have to be insured, right?) -> state insurance agency -> state database -> datebases of CCW holders -> PD database -> cop’s car.
Seriously, computers make this TRIVIAL. And yes, it is SOP for the police state...
What about full faith and credit of the United States.
Pretty sad isn’t it.
This guy gets hammered.
And how many gang bangers bringing drugs from FL up north with illegal guns skate on by.
Well, since Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, and Massachuetts don’t honor my Florida permit, I guess I’ll be stopping at the Virginia line on my way up North. But to be honest, that’s as far North as I want to go anyway. I don’t have a passport for the liberal North.
I’d imagine that this connection would break down for a rental car.
If police were following their constitutional limits, it wouldn’t matter if they knew when every CCW holder drove by, because they still wouldn’t have probable cause to stop them. Instead, we have let police get away with stopping and searching anyone, and making up some cause to cover themselves in the paperwork. So, of course they will abuse whatever information they can get their hands on in order to target their illegal searches. It gets them arrests, and when they get more arrests, we give them more money.
My brother was a sheriff and he told me there was a dozen things he could use to pull someone over
“weaving in your lane” covers any/everything.
Yeah, I’m sure most cops can rattle off ten things that any of us are doing at any time, which they can use as an excuse to detain us. We’ve got too many laws, and we’ve given the police a little too long a leash.
I wouldnt put it past the jackboot ruling class to do this, but it is pretty unlikely. Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.”
I live in CA too and I would not bet on that fact. If it does prove to be true, the states that do it can kiss good bye anyone having CCW. People will simply “carry.”
Add Minnestoopid to that list as well.
Minnestoopid is “shall issue”, but has no reciprocity.
Maybe the cops just googled it.
Maryland patrol police are tricky.
The cars are dark colored and roof lights flat to be sneaky and not be seen till they pull you over,
I use waze to flag them to other users.
I would think this lawsuit worthy...
Sadly, the Brown Shirts and their bosses can’t be held accountable and the bill will simply be passed on to the taxpayer...
We got into Virginia we stopped, loaded the mags, pulled the 1911 out of the bike, and loaded the piece and put it back in the waist holster. I have a Pa carry permit, but dont want to give the Md local yokels any reason to get excited. Its BS, but I dont want to lose the piece to an excited rookie with a heavy badge.
The link is through the DMV with the D/L number. With a license plate reader it wouldn't be much a stretch that when the License plate query comes back the D/L number comes back as well. If there is a CCW it would be linked to the D/L. In CA that would be somewhat rare due to the difficulty of getting a CCW.
In this case the LEO went fishing and query brought up the driver had a CCW and that started the fishing expedition.
In CA if a LEO finds a pistol that the owner legally owns he can read the S/N and description to his dispatch who goes offline then when the DMV database responds they can confirm the S/N and description. I have heard them do just that while monitoring traffic over a scanner.
Sounds like a good opportunity to invent a license plate cover that will prevent reading with a machine.
Counterproductive??? Not if you’re after easy revenue and bust stats. Plus, the cops run near zero chance of getting injured in those encounters...
In Tampa if a cop reads your plate it comes up if you have a CCW. If you do you will be stopped. If you are not carrying at the time your car will be almost disassembled as the police search for your weapon. If you are carrying your gun will be confiscated and perhaps you can get it back. Your car will also be searched. There is not warrant involved. Lawful possession of a firearm constitutes Probable Cause. Tampa is one Southern city that more resembles Chicago than anything Southern.
It is also regarded as safer than targeting the criminals and easier and it allows the police to say they are Doing Something.
The thread on this incident from January 14 . . .
Yes, it is obvious, We The People have put up with servants who seek their own narrow benefit and glory, which ends up being no benefit and no glory because we can’t cheat God. If we cheat God we cheat ourselves.
Well, my answer is what I believe is God’s answer, which is to believe the gospel like we mean it, then to share the miracle which results with everyone else in whatever way God makes possible.
...if your goal is to stop crime.
Blacks get extra self-determination over and above what everybody else gets?
Evidently some addle brained “progressive” communist pukes “think” so
How self determination can be authentically labeled by color is far FAR beyond me.
It reads like Amos N Andy-Bonix..to me! It puts me in mind of George Kingfish Stevens throwing a bunch of words together in an effort to SOUND important and effectual.
Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.
I wouldn’t be too sure of that. Mrs. Peet found her driver’s license photo in her electronic health-care record. In some states, the DMV shares info with data with other govt. agencies.
I hate this state.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
Tried that last year. Thousands showed up to protest “assault rifle” ban. The line to testify was 2,000 long when I got there. Testimony to the house was cut off. Later testimony to the senate ran till 3am. Only 12 people were in favor. We were completely ignored.
already been done.its called mud.
Yes, we as a society have gotten off of the track of righteousness, which is furnished to us sinners in God.
Without an allegiance to God, we are left with the ugly enemy of God’s grace, which is pride. And pride can get pretty damned (word intended) shortsighted. Ah, look at the wonderful cop-in-a-box! Except he isn’t in a box except of his own construction, out of the devil’s hate.
It’s only through renewed personal allegiance to God (which in the modern, Christian covenant is individual, and not an institutional thing) that America can be blessed again.
Gladly, I see all kinds of signs that the Lord hasn’t given up yet. Our troubles are chastenings, warning us of the hell towards which we’ve been sailing. A wholehearted call upon the Lord can still save the day, and evangelists are needed to exhort people to do this. Evangelists are not just a yesteryear phenomenon. They are as modern as today.
It’s only two or three or four goof counties in every one of those states. There’s no rational reason to let the fools have all of Md., all of NY, or all of Pa.
When mud is outlawed only outlaws will have mud. Ban tractor pulls. For the children.