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‘No Reason or Justification’ for European Anti-Semitism
INN ^ | 1/26/2014, 11:57 AM | Tova Dvorin

Posted on 01/27/2014 3:21:41 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: ek_hornbeck

“I see. The solution to antisemitism in Europe is genocide of Europeans, right? Sounds a little like Louis Farrakhan or Malcolm X’s proposed “solutions” for white “racism” towards blacks.”

Yes. Of course. How could I be so wrong? I mean, it’s not like a rather well developed list of murderous ideologies haven’t flowed out of the Europe AO over the last century.

It’s not like murderous antisemitism isn’t The ***KING NORM! in that AO. It’s not like this insane B***sh** hasn’t come around in that AO in regular cycles for hundreds of years.

Oh, and it’s not like ol Farrakhan and Malcolm both weren’t actual devotees to the very same murderous ideologies that flowed out of Europe in the late 19th through the 20th centuries.

How about this suggestion?

Take your moral equivalence idiocy, wrap it up around something sharp and jagged...


21 posted on 01/28/2014 1:28:39 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
Take your moral equivalence idiocy, wrap it up around something sharp and jagged...

Thanks for proving my point beyond a shadow of a doubt. I've learned long ago never to argue with lunatics, especially lunatics who harbor fantasies of murdering people. Go back on your meds and then we'll talk, nutjob.

22 posted on 01/28/2014 3:34:31 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Sorry, but this whole hatefest of "let's damn Europe for its history of Anti-Semitism" isn't any different from the kind of hate that the Left peddles about America and Americans.

According to the Left, Americans are supposed to be self-hating and guilt ridden because of slavery, Jim Crow, and for wars with the Indians. It looks as though some elements of the "right" are applying the same line when it comes to Europe and its anti-Semitism.

I'm not saying that anti-Semitic policies should be defended any more than I defend slavery, but this attitude of collective guilt for one or the other stinks of political correctness.

23 posted on 01/28/2014 4:04:47 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

The difference, that you refuse to either see or acknowledge, is that in Europe, it never changes.

The murderous gets beat out of them through massive bloodshed. All is peace and lovey dovey for 1 or 2 “generations” then the same degenerate crap that started the last round of mass murder, starts up again. And again. And again. And again.


24 posted on 01/28/2014 4:22:44 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
Almost all violent anti-Jewish acts in Europe are committed by Arabs and other Muslim immigrants, not by white Europeans. The type of anti-Semitic attitudes you get among Europeans today are the same kind of "country club" anti-Semitism that was the norm in US society until about 50-60 years ago. In other words, you don't want somebody from another ethnic group or religion dating your daughter (many Jews feel precisely the same way about non-Jews), but you don't want to murder or harm him in any way either.

The murderous gets beat out of them through massive bloodshed. All is peace and lovey dovey for 1 or 2 “generations” then the same degenerate crap that started the last round of mass murder, starts up again

So following this line of reasoning, did Americans deserve to die en masse as punishment for Jim Crow? Was the death of over half a million during the Civil War, in part over the slave issue, a good thing? Are we all supposed to grovel and feel guilty about having done these things for the rest of our history?

25 posted on 01/28/2014 4:43:21 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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Sure there is, there are Jews in their midst. What more justification is needed

26 posted on 01/29/2014 3:07:18 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Olog-hai
Well things might be different in certain countries. Personally I am working and living as an architekt and authorised expert for building security in the old town of Rottweil in southern Germany. Last year I recieved a order to take part in the planning of a new synagogue since the old rooms do not fit into the demand of the jewish community anymore. Being christian I have a jewish part of my family, because my aunt married a jew (my uncle) many years ago.

It is true that you find espechially among young muslim immigrants nameless forms of antisemitism. This is indeed annoying but not really dangerous. They are the underdogs in our country with no chance of gaining influence and power, even if some Americans predicting something different (muslims in Germany are cleaning toilets or they deal with vegetables, but they are definitly not in a powerful situatiuon). Among the dominating German society there are only very little resentments against jews. Such is usually found among people from east Germany and elderly people (old nazis) who are hopefully about to die soon. Hitler found his biological solution at last ...

Here is a picture of our jewish community in Rottweil dancing in the streets when they brought in a new Thora roll into their current praying rooms.




27 posted on 01/30/2014 9:30:23 PM PST by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: Olog-hai

Of course it is bulls*it to call Israel a “apartheid state”.

Nevertheless it is not surprising that the force that Israel imposes on muslims around it creates hatred among them. The hatred of a young Palestinian might be understandable if we assume that he was told from his beginning that Israelis stole his land. Furthermore it is quite likely that he suffered the countermeasures of Israel against terrorism. Those actions had massive impact on uninvolved people.

The question is how to break through this vicious circle since war leads to nothing. Israel needs a peaceful deal with the muslims on one hand and has to keep up its millitary power on the other. The only alternative is to kill all muslims, since the restistance against the current policy will continue. Since I know the Israelis as civilized people I doubt that they want to do that.


28 posted on 01/30/2014 9:55:05 PM PST by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: ek_hornbeck

You said:”... Almost all violent anti-Jewish acts in Europe are committed by Arabs and other Muslim immigrants, not by white Europeans. The type of anti-Semitic attitudes you get among Europeans today are the same kind of “country club” anti-Semitism that was the norm in US society until about 50-60 years ago. In other words, you don’t want somebody from another ethnic group or religion dating your daughter (many Jews feel precisely the same way about non-Jews), but you don’t want to murder or harm him in any way either....”

Yep. There is nothing more to say.

Regards from Europe

Andreas


29 posted on 01/30/2014 9:59:42 PM PST by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: European Guest

Most of the white European anti-semites are the Soccer Hooligans.


30 posted on 01/30/2014 10:01:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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