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Robert Gates "Duty..." does not indicate that he knew of the danger of Obama. (Vanity)
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Posted on 01/26/2014 4:09:31 PM PST by RoosterRedux

I have been reading Robert Gates "Duty..." and am astonished to find no evidence that he was aware of an Obama takeover of America. I wish I had known this before I bought my AR-15 and a thou of ammo.

That said, I still don't know exactly what to make of this book.

Gates was with the CIA for 26 years and presumably would even know if their were extraterrestrials at Roswell...but he provides absolutely no alert as to an Obama (or communist) takeover of the U.S.

Please note that I am not through with the book...but so far...nothing.

And Gates is a straight talker.


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1 posted on 01/26/2014 4:09:31 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

their s/b there


2 posted on 01/26/2014 4:10:41 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have only read excerpts of the book, but my fear has been....how much more does he know that he isn’t telling us?


3 posted on 01/26/2014 4:11:37 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: clintonh8r
I'm sure he knows much more than he is saying...but wouldn't there be an underlying tension in his voice if he thought America were going down?

I didn't get that sense.

Perhaps he has the blind-sided vision of a typical beltway insider.

But he doesn't see himself as an insider.

4 posted on 01/26/2014 4:14:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

How could ANYONE take over America?! That is not only ILLEGAL, it’s positively un-American!!! ;)


5 posted on 01/26/2014 4:29:51 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: RoosterRedux

Gates stood by and allowed our men and women to fight a war that their own CIC didn’t believe they could win. He should have publicly resigned in protest. To me he’s no difference than that a-hole McNamara.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 4:30:38 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: RoosterRedux

Bet he was told to keep his mouth shut and just make money off the book.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 4:31:01 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

He’s a whore just like the rest of them.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 4:32:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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9 posted on 01/26/2014 4:32:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: VerySadAmerican
You are right...but what would you suggest that he should have done?

He apparently decided he could do more for our troops by staying in position than resigning in protest.

10 posted on 01/26/2014 4:33:23 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Perhaps.

But that would make him a traitor.

He doesn't seem like a traitor. He seems like an honorable man.

He was Sec Def under Bush before Obama...and had 26 years at CIA.

Hardly seems like a traitor.

11 posted on 01/26/2014 4:35:58 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yeah, if let on about all he knows people would be buys food, water, ammo, guns and not his fancy book.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 4:36:05 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Gates stood by and allowed our men and women to fight a war that their own CIC didn’t believe they could win.

Out country is bigger that even the CIC.

Gates also said that Obama's one point of passion was for the gays in the military. He has outed Obama if you read between the lines (which is exactly how his book was intended).

13 posted on 01/26/2014 4:39:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Only those who’d experienced up close the methods and the kinds of facades used by the Marxist Left would have known for certain bac in 2008 what the country was up against if their Manchurian Candidate got elected. Enough evidence and list of close friends was there and crystal clear for anyone who was not blinding himself to reality. They’d been working toward such a day for many, many decades.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 4:40:04 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Gates was in the CIA for 26 years. Who would have known if not the CIA (and yes...I know the Company is left leaning).


15 posted on 01/26/2014 4:43:59 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: DirtyPigpen
Yeah, if let on about all he knows people would be buys food, water, ammo, guns and not his fancy book.

Bullshit.

I don't believe this man would turn his back on his Country.

Read the book to get a sense of the man.

If what you say is true, America is being betrayed by previously loyal Americans.

Why would they do this?

America is not perfect...but it is the best system invented so far.

Betraying America is not just betrayal of country...it is betrayal of humanity itself.

There aren't many people who qualify for that...the President, the Atty Gen, and a few others.

16 posted on 01/26/2014 4:55:59 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Actually he said more than he was supposed to. His agreement was to toss out just enough tantalizing tidbits to sell the book and no more. You will note from the neck brace that he was last seen wearing that he had exceeded his allocation and needed to walk back most of what he said. A smart prostitute takes the money and keeps his/her mouth shut.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 5:05:46 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Stalin is smiling in Hell at how well Obama has copied his communist organization.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, if things get as bad as some say it will and there was no way to stop the impending crash and if I were him and knew about it, I’d try to position myself the best way possible for the benefit of the ones I cared for.

As patriotic as I am, I could see myself doing similar.

This experiment has cracks that need fixing and if I was not able to, I’d shore my defenses for the good of my family. As selfish as that sounds, most would do the same.

I’m not discounting his service or loyalty either, just humanizing him. After all, that’s all any of us are.


18 posted on 01/26/2014 5:11:10 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: DirtyPigpen
First of all, thanks for your service.

But then, Paul Revere didn't ride to protect his family...he rode to protect a new country. A country which is greater than our families...greater than all we are.

America is God's work...His freedom manifest for the men and women who are willing to die for it!

19 posted on 01/26/2014 5:15:07 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

I agree that America is Gods work.

I’m just not as quick to lump people bathed in DC politics in with folks like Paul Revere.

Maybe I’m just a pessimist .


20 posted on 01/26/2014 5:23:41 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Bolshies harp on the fact that Gates says dumBO was right on his policy decisions. Does that include, cutting the number of troops requested for the surge in Afghanistan, firing McCrystal, and setting a surrender date.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 5:30:28 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: depressed in 06
Obama has been worse than Carter for our country...but Gates hasn't said that we should run for the hills because of a Communist takeover.

If Obama is simply a bump in the road...we will recover.

If he is the face of a Communist takeover...we will have to go to the mattresses.

Gates has not sounded the alarm! And he is in a position to do so.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 5:36:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux
Gates is a straight talker? Really? Where was his mouth when he chose to collude in the disastrous military policies of the Alien Usurper. A "straight talker" would have said "I resign." He served this psychopath in silence and only now is willing to venture a few tentative criticisms in his book. BFD. Gates is a moral coward.
23 posted on 01/26/2014 5:59:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t trust Gates at all. Anyone else trust him?


24 posted on 01/26/2014 6:02:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RoosterRedux

Oops, wrong Gates.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 6:02:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Write him a letter telling him so...I think he will respond.

And ask if you can publish said letter here on FR. I think he will agree.

26 posted on 01/26/2014 6:07:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

... said he has “abandoned free market principles to save the free market system”...Pres. Bush

If what you say is true, America is being betrayed by previously loyal Americans.

Why would they do this?

Very good questions and begs of us...what are we not seeing? Because somehow it is in plain sight and yet we are blind to it?


27 posted on 01/26/2014 6:15:49 PM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; RoosterRedux
He served this psychopath in silence...

The other side of that coin is that he was willing to remain in place as "our inside man" who believed he could perform a greater service than whatever was to be achieved by a dramatic public exit.

There are also a couple of possible reasons why he would not release bombshell info in his book. First, to be effective, such releases ought to be part of a coordinated effort. In this regard, we do need to carefully consider who might be the next WH occupant if warranted by circumstances this far in advance to the next scheduled election.

Secondly, and perhaps most important, he isn't the only one who knows of various specific bombshells (the isolated release of which may at the time could have appeared futile) and any current solo release of such could compromise those others.

28 posted on 01/26/2014 6:17:55 PM PST by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
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To: RoosterRedux

The network that put Obama into the White House were working under mom and apple pie facades of their own creation in the training programs and organizations and charitable foundations and think tanks of the opinion-making professions. They tried to remain under the radar - that was the point of working from within on goals and objectives, papered over with phrases like “social justice.” They might very well have succeeded in eluding a Gates. Their goals were and are long term. See the memoir of Whittaker Chambers, Witness, published in the early 1950s.


29 posted on 01/26/2014 6:48:28 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: RoosterRedux

>> And Gates is a straight talker.

Redacted.


30 posted on 01/26/2014 6:53:38 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Frank_2001
How could ANYONE take over America?! That is not only ILLEGAL, it’s positively un-American!!! ;)

You just described Barry.
31 posted on 01/26/2014 7:22:55 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: RoosterRedux

I told you what I think he should have done. He should have told America what their president was doing to the military BEFORE the election.


32 posted on 01/26/2014 10:42:00 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: RoosterRedux

My point is “outing” him a year after he was re-elected is a little late as far as I’m concerned. But, of course, now that he has a book out he can join the Fox Book of the Month Club.


33 posted on 01/26/2014 10:42:55 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: dfwgator

agreed


34 posted on 01/27/2014 4:54:57 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I didn’t say he was.They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse is my bet.They are all out to destroy the original founding ideals of this country.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 4:56:58 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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