Posted on 01/23/2014 8:42:56 AM PST by 4Runner
I never said he was justified in shooting, either location, or in the point in the fight.
You really believe that it was “over” after the popcorn?
Trust me, don’t throw popcorn on someone the next time you are at the movies. Saying “I’m sorry” won’t be heard by your assailant.
No I don't believe it was about popcorn at all. The shooter is the one using the popcorn defense because that's all he's got to try and rationalize out and out murder.
Do you believe it was OVER after the shooting victim threw the popcorn?
Do you think if the “narc” had sat his butt down, the dead guy would’ve strictly shut the hell up?
And others DID say on a previous thread that he should never have gone to management anyway.
Thus goes the thread to the lowest common denominator that could be found. Sure you don't want to suggest he is a fag and be done with it.
The way I look at it, the police officer had no right to shoot if he was not physically attacked (beyond popcorn thrown for a distance beyond point blank distance). We are not given enough info to know if that is fact or not. We can assume the police officer will claim to have been not only assaulted with the popcorn but grabbed. The wife will claim otherwise, thus independent witness accounts become very important. If grabbed, the shooting is justified probable unless it is proven that the grabbing was fully provoked by the retired police officer who wanted to escalate the event. Working against the officer is his history of being offended in theaters. Working against the wounded is their very rude behavior when it is plainly offensive to text during movies and deprive other well paying customers their opportunity to enjoy a movie (even if it is just previews of upcoming events). Is it a crime to speak up and mention when someone is behaving rudely in a theater?
It will go down to a jury of peers when all the facts (especially from other eyewitnesses) are brought to light under sworn oath w/ a hand on the Bible. As it stands now, unless damning eyewitness accounts contradicts what little story we have, odds are this police officer will spend the rest of his life in prison. But... if I was on the jury, and if events told go strongly against the plaintiffs, I might vote not guilty. But that leaves a whole, whole, whole lot of proving by the defense.
Now if you want to call me a cop lover (or any other so called derogatory name you can think of), knock yourself out. You can have last word.
No, it was over after the murderer shot the dude for no justifible reason.
Yep —
Kelly Thomas
Chad Oulson
Michelle O’Connell
Andy Lopez
and on it goes.
So, just how much and what type of work does a US State Police bureau have for a friggin "Anti-Terrorist Fusion Cell"? And the FR husband is apparently an Internet Commando. Perfect.
Evade evade evade.
Answer your own questions.
Somehow because I have no sympathy for a beligerant patron (his daughter I do sympathize with, she couldn’t choose her parents) I say the other guy is “not guilty”.
Dumbass meets dumbass with a gun.
Go eat your popcorn.
“The way I look at it, the police officer had no right to shoot if he was not physically attacked”
Therein lies the problem. He was NOT a police officer! Being a retired cop doesn’t mean squat! He’s just another “retired person.” He has no special privileges (other that he may not have to jump through hoops to have a CCW permit), and yet, he seems to according to some here. Asking a poster who seems to be projecting the image you would expect of someone who is, or was, in law enforcement to identify himself as such is simply a way to try and understand where he is coming from. To suggest that that’s a slur and that somehow I should go “whole hog” and call him a homosexual is unbelievable. Seemingly, I don’t have the right to express my feelings, but you do. If you “love” cops, that’s your prerogative, I really could care less, but I do take exception to anyone who espouses the notion that what happened here was acceptable behavior for anyone, let alone someone who has been in law enforcement.
Our former chief of police who used to be a friend thought it was quite humorous to relate how he would routinely use his service revolver ( by picking it up of the seat of his car and opening and closing the cylinder as if he were checking the status of it’s ammunition) to intimidate anyone he thought was following him too closely. I don’t know what the law is where you are, but in this state, that’s a felony. We quit associating when I figured out that he regarded everyone with whom he had contact as a potential criminal. Have a nice day.
Anyways.....here is your fusion cell public info.
You can tell Corey or Dick Davis hello for me.
Yep. To the copsuckers, their heroes either active or retired it makes no difference. Their buddies MUST be defended no matter what. Some popcorn in the face equals a lethal force response? YES!! Some texting, (Before the movie when a countless amount of other folk are looking for seats, restroom visits, snack bar visits, general rustling about etc.), requires that the vile man be confronted? Why yes it does! And a Deadly Force response is warranted according to the drooling ‘boot lickers! Yep, If the shooter here was not an ex cop there would not be one post even remotely defending the his actions. (I can’t believe I’m reading the “don’t be a jerk at the movies and you won’t get shot” type of posts here the last week). If the slurpers here had a loved one murdered, as this young man was over tossed popcorn and texting, they would be calling for the shooters head.
The media has found their new Gabby Giffords.
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and others have found a different kind of hero - saving us all from those nasty folks who text during previews at the theatre.
It’s funny that the sense of those seemingly supporting the shooter are relying on the notion that the shooter was really the most polite guy ever on the face of the earth, and he very very kindly requested the texter to please, if you don’t mind and it’s not too much trouble, maybe could you please not text now?
It was the texter who was the hothead, and if he hadn’t been such an annoying a$$hole, he’d still be alive.
Yes, we all seem to be inserting our preconceived notions in explaining away the behavior of the one we support.
The shooter has a PR problem. He shot a guy to death in a theatre while the previews were showing. He shot the wife as well.
So what we have here apparently is the Gabby Zimmerman redux.
Nope. I didn’t say that.
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Nor did I suggest that you had. But the only person you suggested be more prudent was the dead guy, so I think my question is fair. You are mute on the notion of prudence as it relates to the shooter.
LOL.
You totally missed the point Justa.
Mashood’s response to the original poster little more than - nya nya nya, your mother wears army boots. Try to keep up.
Hmm ... I’d check out any connection between TJ Grimaldi, Matt Gutman, and ... say, Julison, maybe?
FL stand-your-ground redux?
Unless the shooter was a cop or a retarded cop, of course!
Ok. But please don't shoot me for it.
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