Posted on 01/21/2014 8:19:32 AM PST by SpinnerWebb
I know you really want to believe in this doomsday scenario but it’s not healthy to obsess over such things. Google it a little until you learn more. Don’t just listen to what you want to hear.
And caffeine is not a good substitute for Thorazine. But check with the nurse when she comes by the Home. She’ll know better than me.
So is the consensus that Iran is going to EMP up as soon as it gets in range?
So then please explain why there are pictures of mushroom clouds from nuclear tests near Las Vegas, and yet the EMP didn’t seem to affect the Las Vegas strip at all.
Yes... EMP is a real phenomenon. But it also a fairly short-range effect. Like a blast wave, or a sound wave... It diminishes with the square of the radius of the distance. Close-up... Yes it will fry electronics. But the long range effects of an EMP are minimal.
Gadzooks, did you even read any of the above and comprehend any of it? In addition, those atom bomb tests in Nevada were in the 1950s and early 1960s before the Partial Test Ban Treaty was passed in 1963, which banned nuclear tests in the atmosphere, underwater and in space, but not underground. In the early 1960s we were were still mainly on vacuum tubes electronics and points & condenser auto ignition that are highly resistant to EMP.
Again, it is the solid-state electronics that are in just about everything nowadays that would be damage or destroyed by a EMP weapon exploded high above the center of the US.
Yet you and AppyPappy cannot seem to understand that simple fact.
Even a massive electromagnetic pulse triggered by a super sized solar storm on the sun would do the same. Read "Solar storm of 1859" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
Sorry... You’re just wrong about that. Sure, there is an EMP effect from a nuclear explosion but it isn’t ever going to be continental in scope from a single event. Even with the largest of hydrogen bombs. The EMP effect will be significant, But SO IS THE BOMB. The EMP is a lesser effect from whatever damage is done by the primary explosive.
Well, you and AppyPappy have fun storming the castle. I shall not answer any more posts from people so damn dumb they cannot read nor reason.
Well, neener neener to you too. :-p
Nyuk nyuk.
LOL
LOL,
Better yet, in #18 he says they ‘could’ do it over Kansas.
Isn’t that where the tornado picked up Dorothy and took her to the land of Oz ??
Sort of fitting
You know what would be fun to have?
A cell phone jammer that shuts down everyone’s phone around me within a few hundred feet.
A few years ago I read that they sold them in Canada.
In the early 1980s TV Movie 'The Day after' the Soviet ICBM nuke explosion shut off all the cars on the road in a scene. I recently found that movie on the internet and watched it again. Maybe that is where some of this 'science' is coming from.
"We spent hours and hours doing those calculations, used up several rolls and three or four boxes of pencils working those out on our kitchen table," Bob told the student.
"Gee, Mr. Heinlein," replied the youngster, pulling a small calculator from his pocket, "why didn't you just use one of these?"
"From then on," Heinlein later said, "I doubted the future intellectual health of our nation."
I am sure that took him to offer up his famous quote, "A generation which ignores history has no past — and no future."
Writing on this thread reminds me just exactly how Bob felt--
Looking at the waterline on the ship, it is not carrying much cargo, as it is riding pretty high.
Not sure, nuke, when those photos were taken. I got them off the internet and doubt they were up to date shots of the vessel as it headed into the Atlantic.
You must be running out of these brainstorms since the sci-fi channel changed to the sy-fy channel.
No, there are enough humorless, misinformed, ill-educated, immature numb-nuts posting on FR... 
to keep me going for the next century or two--
Of course, they could pick up a book and improve their comprehension once in a while... 
but my hope for that died off a long time ago.
From my copy of FM 24-1 Combat Communications Sep of 1976 (it remains in effect with updates to this day) as the US Army was training my National Guard unit to continue the fight AFTER a thermonuclear attack. Perhaps the probability of our survivasl was over optimistic, but the Army figured that IF you survived you had best be ready to continue the fight.
“EMP is a strong pulse of electromagnetic radiation, many times stronger than the static pulse generated by lightning. This pulse can enter communications equiptment through antenna systems, [ower connections, and signal input connections. In the equiptment, the pulse can break down circuit components such as transistors, diodes, and integrated circuits, melt insulation and dielectric material in capacitors, inductors, and transformers. This WILL CAUSE an increased load on maintenence facilities and personnel. Well trained personnel are imperative to provide rapid alternate routing of damaged systems. Here again we see the importance of developing and training with nonelectronic means of communications, because our electronic MEANS COULD BE LOST.”
The manual goes on to explain ways of minimizing EMP damage EVEN WHEN THE UNIT IS LOCATED A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE FROM GROUND ZERO, and FM-100-5, Operations warns of the scenario of multiple nuclear detonations over a widely disperesed area which must be prepared for.
Remember that this was written at a time when the reliance on solid state communications was a fraction of what it is today. We had no GPS then or small unit SATCOM capability.
Our M151A2 utility trucks (MUTT Jeeps) were beaker point ignition fired as were most of our gasoline powered vehicles. Yet EMP was a significant worry back THEN.
Bender therse guys that you are arguing against sound a lot like liberals do even after you reveal the FACTS to them. Nah Nah Nah Nah I cant hear you!!!! (with their index fingers in their ears)
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