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About that consensus on global warming: 9136 agree, 1 disagrees.
Scientific American ^ | 01/10/2014 | By Ashutosh Jogalekar |

Posted on 01/12/2014 6:30:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The consensus about global warming among scientists (Image: James Powell)

I just want to highlight this illuminating infographic by James Powell in which, based on more than 2000 peer-reviewed publications, he counts the number of authors from November, 2012 to December, 2013 who explicitly deny global warming (that is, who propose a fundamentally different reason for temperature rise than anthropogenic CO2). The number is exactly one. In addition Powell also has helpful links to the abstracts and main text bodies of the relevant papers.

It’s worth noting how many authors agree with the basic fact of global warming – more than nine thousand. And that’s just in a single year. Now I understand as well as anyone else that consensus does not imply truth but I find it odd how there aren’t even a handful of scientists who deny global warming presumably because the global warming mafia threatens to throttle them if they do. It’s not like we are seeing a 70-30% split, or even a 90-10% split. No, the split is more like 99.99-0.01%.

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To: SeekAndFind
This is a count of authors of publications.

First, to mean anything, one would need assurances that negative articles would have an equal chance of publication (they do not)...

Second, one would need assurances that there would be no reprisals taken on those scientists who disagree (reprisals would be nearly certain in some circles, one suspects)... and

Third, I suspect multiple counting of authors (ol suspicious moi)....

Fourth, for this count comparison to have validity, there would need to be no profit or prestige incentive for one's research to support such a politically correct notion (such incentives are more than obvious).

It would be much more, ahem, "scientific" to invite critics to address an hypotheses (which global climate change might not even qualify to be), than to count the "ins" and "me too's".

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21 posted on 01/12/2014 7:00:08 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

The peer-reviewers suppress opposing opinions and facts.


22 posted on 01/12/2014 7:01:11 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SeekAndFind

REAL scientists publish experimental procedures and data, and determine how many can duplicate their results. Global Warming cultists take surveys of the choir.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 7:02:29 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: SeekAndFind
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2013/06/18/climate-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims

Global warming alarmists have been caught doctoring the results of a widely cited paper asserting there is a 97 percent scientific consensus regarding human-caused global warming. After taking a closer look at the paper, investigative journalists report the authors’ claims of a 97 percent consensus relied on them misclassifying the papers of some of the world’s most prominent global warming skeptics. At the same time, the authors deliberately presented a meaningless survey question that allowed them to twist the responses to fit their own preconceived global warming alarmism."

and

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3054138/posts

New peer review: only 36% of geoscientists and engineers believe in AGW WUWT VH ^ | 8/13/2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on: ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2013‎ ‎11‎:‎40‎:‎04‎ ‎AM by Signalman

"Don’t look now, but maybe a scientific consensus exists concerning global warming after all. Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem.

24 posted on 01/12/2014 7:04:08 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: SeekAndFind

9/10 doctors agree that Camels are good for you.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 7:11:49 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Consensus does not equal science.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 7:11:50 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact that “peer reviewed” journals mostly refuse to publish things that disagree with the Official Line, of course, doesn’t have influence on the results of the survey.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 7:12:37 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: SeekAndFind
There was a time when medical scientists believed,9136 to 1,that leeches were the best cure for consumption,evil humors and vapors.
28 posted on 01/12/2014 7:13:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: SeekAndFind

People with academic credentials thinking politically instead of scientifically, like Nazi doctors trying to prove the superiority of the master race.


29 posted on 01/12/2014 7:31:07 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: SeekAndFind

At one time, nearly of scientists believed:

1. The Earth is flat.

2. The Sun and Moon rotate around the Earth.

3. Fire is caused by too much or not enough Phlogiston.

4. Cells are filled with a jelly-like substance called protoplasm.

5. The continents don’t move.

6. The atom is indivisible and indestructible.

7. The contents of the atom is like a plum pudding.

8. The motions of solar system bodies are governed by a Ptolemaic system of epicycles.

9. Dinosaurs are cold-blooded animals.

So, what is exactly the relevant point of this article in So-Called Scientific American?


30 posted on 01/12/2014 7:33:09 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Leftist Doucetoolery 101

When the evidence all around you, available to anyone through empirical observation, does not support the hypothesis agenda.

Scream louder.
31 posted on 01/12/2014 7:40:47 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Seaplaner
"Third, I suspect multiple counting of authors (ol suspicious moi)...."

You're right to be suspicious. I'd also be willing to bet that many of those who are being counted aren't scientists at all, or are "scientists" in non-climate related disciplines. A previous poll (1990s) of 3,000 "scientists" who said AGW was real, turned out to be a handful of actual climatologists and meteorologists, and a whole slew of social workers, grad students, and so on. Wish I could find a link to the article which exposed it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

32 posted on 01/12/2014 7:41:27 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: chrisser
How many peer reviewed publications will actually accept an article that doesn’t join the AGW bandwagon?

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!!

Fact is, Global Warming was debunked by the release of the IPCC emails some what .... 10 years ago which showed that Michael Mann falsely created the "hockey stick" theory and manipulated the data used to form his "conclusions."

Mann has never been peer reviewed - he only allows other so-called scientists to look at, and concur with the results.

That's not science. That's thuggery. Mann berates and belittles those who oppose him, driving them out of "science."

Michael Mann, the IPCC and the rest of the global warming alarmists are FRAUDS.

33 posted on 01/12/2014 7:46:43 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t know that the scientific method included “get consensus” as a step.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 7:51:48 PM PST by oblomov
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To: SeekAndFind

The basic fact is that Jones destroyed the basic data for the study and it was not ever reconstructed. Everything was based upon the “manipulated data” and thus destroyed any possibility of the study being reviewed or replicated. No real scientists would ever allow the basic data be destroyed and still claim the study valid.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 7:53:46 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something is rotten in Denmark, as they say! The putrid smell is wafting everywhere!


36 posted on 01/12/2014 7:56:06 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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>> It’s not like we are seeing a 70-30% split, or even a 90-10% split. No, the split is more like 99.99-0.01%.

And of course, an a priori consensus of 99.99% is perfectly normal.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 7:57:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Real scientists don't ascribe to the logical fallacy of "appeal to authority".

I'd love to know the breakdown of these scienticians, and what their politics are, and whether they have any knowledge germane to "climate science".

OR, as I suspect, are OVERWHELMINGLY leftists, who REALLY REALLY like leftist redistributionist schemes.

Once every single one of them has been eliminated from the "consensus", let me know the results.

38 posted on 01/12/2014 7:58:04 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could be convinced that the world is getting warmer. I am not convinced it’s man made. Nor do I think we can do a damn thing about it.


39 posted on 01/12/2014 8:00:46 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

are you telling me that the people who received funding / grants / permission to publish a book are in agreement?

gee, sounds exactly like propaganda to me.


40 posted on 01/12/2014 8:04:07 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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