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US Dec. nonfarm payrolls total 74,000 vs. 200,000 est.; unemployment rate at 6.7% vs. 7% est.
CNBC ^ | January 10, 2014 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 01/10/2014 5:42:52 AM PST by John W

Job creation stumbled in December, with the U.S. economy adding just 74,000 positions even as the Federal Reserve voted to take the first steps in eliminating its stimulus program.

The unemployment rate dropped to 6.7 percent, below economist estimates and due primarily to continued shrinkage in the labor force. The labor force participation rate tumbled to 62.8 percent, its worst level since January 1978.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employment; jimmycartertime; jobs; obamarecession; recession; unemployment
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1 posted on 01/10/2014 5:42:52 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

How can the rate drop when fewer than expected jobs are being created?

More funny math.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 5:44:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: John W
Pretty much a disaster jobs report. Fed Taper? RIP...

2/3 of the decline in U3 related to participation rate

U6 remains constant at 13.1%


3 posted on 01/10/2014 5:44:41 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: John W

Hey kids! It’s fun with numbers Friday! 6.7%! ROTFL! That’s 6.7%, PERIOD!!!


4 posted on 01/10/2014 5:45:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. I'll pass. PERIOD!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

More people off the UE system not being counted.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 5:45:37 AM PST by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just arbitrarily reduce the denominator until you get the stats you want.

PS Chocolate rations will be increased to 15 grams per week.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 5:46:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CommieCutter

So then let’s use U6 as the number, not U3.

This is silly and everyone knows it.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 5:46:17 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: John W
"The labor force participation rate tumbled to 62.8 percent, its worst level since January 1978."

The unemployment rate has lost all meaning other than as a propaganda tool. The labor force participation rate is far more meaningful and shows the continued spread of a dependency culture with the government fostering programs that encourage sloth in a hundred ways.

8 posted on 01/10/2014 5:47:15 AM PST by Truth29
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To: John W

What’s really going on out there? The numbers make no sense. We are dropped precipitously to 6.7% with essentially no job growth. The population is growing faster in December than the job increase.

I understand all the discussion we’ve had about people leaving the workforce and/or going to disability...and I get that. but even accounting for that, I don’t see how we could see that kind of drop. In my personal look around, I am not seeing anyone in my friend circle without a job, like a few years ago, but I do know a number of people doing worse than 5 years ago. It is really hard to figure out what’s going on out there with these numbers.


9 posted on 01/10/2014 5:47:54 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How can the rate drop when fewer than expected jobs are being created?

Because more people have given up looking for work and when they do that they are no longer counted as being unemployed. If they gave the rate for people of working age who aren't working the numbers would be a lot different.

10 posted on 01/10/2014 5:48:15 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s silly. The only thing to follow is U6 and the participation rate at this point.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:29 AM PST by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: John W
Spot the point on the S&P futures chart where the bad jobs report was announced...


12 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:33 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: John W

I guess we don’t need to extend the unemployment insurance.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:42 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Probably about 19%.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 5:50:11 AM PST by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: John W

When the measured workforce shrinks and folks are deemed to no longer be “looking for work”, they are no longer counted as “unemployed”.

This is a political lie to improve prospects in the 2014 midterms.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 5:52:56 AM PST by G Larry
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To: ilgipper

If the denominator declines and the numerator stays flat the percentage declines. That’s the point of the labor force participation rate.

One of the structural issues with the labor force participation rate is demographics. Baby boomers are retiring. The rate has been declining since the late 90’s (i.e. this is nothing new).

There are, of course, issues with job growth that are impacting the participation rate.


16 posted on 01/10/2014 5:53:10 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: HarleyD

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
I am constantly amazed how ‘progressives’ use these figures. On one hand they present an improving economy with 8 million jobs produced, but on the other they have dire predicaments of the unemployment death spiral. Which is it?


17 posted on 01/10/2014 5:54:14 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Now they go up cause this will slow taper talk.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 5:54:36 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

And December is typically a strong month for job creation with seasonal hires. This is simply pathetic.


19 posted on 01/10/2014 5:54:57 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: John W

What a joke. Terrible news, but the headline will look great to the low-informationers. Obama will crow about this in the State of the Union, but if things are so great, how come we can’t cut extended unemployment benefits, Fed stimulus or have the sequester cuts? Good lord, we are six years into the ‘recovery’’, and the economy still needs life support.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 5:55:15 AM PST by fhayek
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