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To: BenLurkin
There is one solitary Party of Government divided into two wings, Republican and Democrat

That's a bit of an overstatement.

Yes, there are waaaaay too many GOP members who are waaaaay too liberal. We need to work on that when we can, but understand there is a HUGE difference between ANY democrat and even the most liberal of the GOP.

As to the difference in democrat liberals vs Republican liberals, it's like the difference between Hubert Humphrey and Hugo Chavez (or Fidel Castro).

Not understanding we have a monolithic democrat party where ALL their elected officials are totalitarian leftists, and a divided, multifaceted Republican party with many factions: There is the so called liberal faction; the go along to get along reach across the aisle stupidity faction; there is the shell shocked, don't know how to gain traction faction who have kind of given up or simply on hold (some of these used to be conservatives); then there is the actual conservative wing.

Yes, it is a bit overlapping, and more complicated but how to put together a coalition of the present Republican party will be our biggest challenge, because if we can't do it, we will be perpetual losers and in the process lose everything we hold dear.

20 posted on 01/07/2014 10:36:05 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Lakeshark; BenLurkin
Yes, there are waaaaay too many GOP members who are waaaaay too liberal. We need to work on that when we can, but understand there is a HUGE difference between ANY democrat and even the most liberal of the GOP.

I'd have to give BenLurkin the nod on this one...if you ask the GOP-e, they would say "there are waaaaay too many GOP members who are waaaaay too liberal Conservative."

36 posted on 01/07/2014 11:50:21 AM PST by gogeo (The Republican Party is not ours, it is theirs.)
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To: Lakeshark

Correct.


50 posted on 01/07/2014 6:40:44 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Lakeshark
The only thing keeping the GOP alive right now, IMNVHO, is that many voters fear that a Third Party will lead to a permanent Left majority.

The GOP long ago decided that it would "go along to get along." It accepted gerrymandered safeseats and a permanent minotity status in exchange for a good part of the swag.

The GOP elected offer "consumer services" to their constituents instead of representing them and their views. IOW, they offer intercession with the various branches of the bloated bureaucracy, especially for those who can pay for it.

The various agencies of the federal bureaucracy write the bills that are passed in conjunction with lobbyists. The Congress members have absolutely no idea of what they are voting on or passing. E.G., Not a man jack of'em knows what's in Obamacare. (Neither does the President.)

We now have Government by Government.

I hope that somehow the 17th Amendment can be rescinded to place selection of Senators in the hands of state legislators and governors. That might be a start on the long hard road back to constitutional government instead of imperial presidencies with Third World voters that reminds me more of the 18th C Spanish Empire than it does a country of truly free citizens.

60 posted on 01/09/2014 10:18:16 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (This GOP is dead. What do we do now?)
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