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3 Amtrak Trains With Hundreds of Passengers Stranded Since Monday
ABC News ^ | 1-7-14 | ANTHONY CASTELLANO

Posted on 01/07/2014 8:51:21 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

About 500 passengers aboard three Amtrak trains were stranded overnight in a remote part of northern Illinois because of blowing and drifting snow, Amtrak officials said today.

The trains were halted late Monday near Mendota, about 80 miles west of Chicago. The passengers were aboard the Southwest Chief from Los Angeles, the Illinois Zephyr from Quincy, Ill., and the California Zephyr from the San Francisco Bay area, Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari told The Associated Press.

The trains became stuck around 4:15 p.m. ET Monday after they hit a 12-foot snow drift that paralyzed the engines, passenger Bryan Plummer told ABC News today by cellphone.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amtrak; cold; discomfort; railtravel; snow; strandedamtraktrain; weather; willie
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1 posted on 01/07/2014 8:51:21 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Im surprised they didnt derail, not because of the snow. because they are amtrak.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 8:53:31 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hopefully they had plenty of evil hydrocarbons in the tanks to keep these things running while they wait.


3 posted on 01/07/2014 8:53:32 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Considerably warmer temps are on the way.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

NYT headlines:

Global warming kills hundreds as they froze to death...


5 posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:56 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_the_Cars


6 posted on 01/07/2014 8:57:27 AM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: driftdiver

I’ve had great experiences riding amtrak in the northwest. I know they are government subsidized, but it’s usually a well run operation, unlike 0bozocare.


7 posted on 01/07/2014 8:57:40 AM PST by PROCON (Those who are capable of Tyranny are capable of Deceit to sustain it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“About 500 passengers aboard three Amtrak trains were stranded overnight in a remote part of northern Illinois”

Funny, I never thought that Mendota (which in the area where I live was remote) Chicago does not realize there is live beyond Chicago.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 9:03:58 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Sounds like Atlas Shrugged.

Winter had come early, in the last days of November. People said that it was the hardest winter on record and that no one could be blamed for the unusual severity of the snowstorms. They did not care to remember that there had been a time when snowstorms did not sweep, unresisted, down unlighted roads and upon the roofs of unheated houses, did not stop the movement of trains, did not leave a wake of corpses counted by the hundreds.
The only difference is now that we know that the cold weather is caused by global warming.
9 posted on 01/07/2014 9:04:40 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
...became stuck around 4:15 p.m. ET Monday after they hit a 12-foot snow drift that paralyzed the engines...

Hate to rant, I hate lousy journalism, but I really, really despise lousy writing.

Should read "...stopped the engines cold in their tracks..."., not "paralyzed engines". imho

10 posted on 01/07/2014 9:05:03 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In the 1880`s here up til 1950`s the steam trains ran thru town -all the passenger cars had wood stoves inside and a supply of small logs to throw into it during wintertime.
Up to the 1960`s all the cabooses had wood stoves in case of snowstuck. I rode the steam trains in the 1940`s with my grandfather. [yea, I know, I`m OLD.]


11 posted on 01/07/2014 9:10:12 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
hmm..Trains..songs
Train called, The City of New Orleans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUWIqWSthA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

12 posted on 01/07/2014 9:26:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: All

This weather is God’s way of telling the AGW crowd to stay outta His business........


13 posted on 01/07/2014 9:27:18 AM PST by Boonie
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To: bunkerhill7
I rode the steam trains in the 1940`s with my grandfather. [yea, I know, I`m OLD.]

I wouldn't call that old.

If you would have said "I rode the steam trains in the 1960`s with my grandfather. [yea, I know, I`m OLD.]", that I would have agreed with. That is old.

What you are is something else entirely. /s>
;)

14 posted on 01/07/2014 9:28:13 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: bunkerhill7
see #12 (above :)

15 posted on 01/07/2014 9:28:21 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: PROCON

Well run meaning turning a profit? If not, then it is not “well run” period.


16 posted on 01/07/2014 9:29:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The people are reportedly now on buses headed to Chicago.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/01/06/three-amtrak-trains-stranded-in-illinois/


17 posted on 01/07/2014 9:32:26 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Popman



18 posted on 01/07/2014 9:33:04 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: Popman

I hear they are changing the name of the route to the Donner Express.


19 posted on 01/07/2014 9:34:20 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Awesome pic. Algore makes a better pj boy than the original!


20 posted on 01/07/2014 9:36:09 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation
Al is in fac the original pajama boy but scarce few people are aware of this bit of trivia


21 posted on 01/07/2014 10:02:46 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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22 posted on 01/07/2014 10:09:13 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: afraidfortherepublic
At least it wasn't Donner pass. That was a bad one back in the 40's 50's, not the actual Donner party. Had a relative who was one who worked for the railroad who went in and got the people out.

He described the deplorable conditions but I was a kid and don't remember much. I suppose sickness, bathroom facilities and food supplies took their toll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG59X7bMDpA

It was in 1952 and above is a newsreel from the time. Astounding footage. Well worth watching.

23 posted on 01/07/2014 10:21:15 AM PST by Aliska
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To: MeshugeMikey

Sweet.


24 posted on 01/07/2014 10:38:01 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The US Coast Guard rescues some global warming nuts stranded in the Antarctic, but we can’t rescue 500 American citizens stranded by snow in Illinois... go figure.


25 posted on 01/07/2014 10:53:45 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: afraidfortherepublic

After the Russian revolution, eastward-bound trains carrying people fleeing the commies were intentionally stopped so the passengers would freeze to death.


26 posted on 01/07/2014 11:06:29 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Mouton
they hit a 12-foot snow drift that paralyzed the engines,

Any railroaders know that that means?

27 posted on 01/07/2014 11:08:11 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Does it mean they burned out the electric motors?


28 posted on 01/07/2014 11:10:08 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

I’m not that familiar with the specifics, but if you restrict the engine air inlet enough with snow, the engine will stall.


29 posted on 01/07/2014 11:10:46 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OMG!!!, I’m sure this has NEVER happened before in wintertime in all U.S. railroad history, never!!!!! /sarc


30 posted on 01/07/2014 11:30:29 AM PST by Wuli
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Amtrak runs out of food even on bright clear summer days on three-hour trips, I wonder what those folks wound up having to eat.


31 posted on 01/07/2014 11:54:44 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I thought everyone in Illinois knew that you have to go south of I-80 to be in the uncivilized redneck territory.

My wife rode this route often. About once a year she would be on one that broke down.
Cold and snow did not seem to be needed!


32 posted on 01/07/2014 12:04:49 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: The Great RJ

The global warming nuts are also crooked “academics” paid for by Obama’s favorite donors. You don’t go on a lark like that without a pile of money. These are Obama supporters we’re talking about. Chop chop, make it snappy, Coast Guard!


33 posted on 01/07/2014 12:19:58 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: DManA

Either snow in the motor cooling vents or brake hoses ripped off the front.
At a guess.


34 posted on 01/07/2014 1:07:15 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: moose07
Another example of modern crack reporting.

Paralyzed the engines.

35 posted on 01/07/2014 1:11:31 PM PST by DManA
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To: nascarnation

From another article, it sounds like the engine got stuck in the snow. I saw no reference to the train loosing power, which is supplied by the engine.


36 posted on 01/07/2014 2:47:58 PM PST by matt04
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To: moose07

I don’t recall reading the trains loosing power, so presumably the engines were still running.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 2:50:20 PM PST by matt04
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thanks for the link!


38 posted on 01/07/2014 3:08:40 PM PST by madison10
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To: matt04
Would have thought so, there is not much chance of stopping the engine on a diesel electric with snow.
However a severed brake hose with a frozen ‘shut off’ valve does tend to be fatal to the loco's health.
Likewise snow in electric motors cooling vents.
12ft of snow just has a presence all of its own.
39 posted on 01/07/2014 3:16:24 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: DManA

“paralyzed the engines”

I’m guessing the author is referring to “engines” as engine cars on the train. Only way I can make sense of it.


40 posted on 01/07/2014 4:31:29 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: stars & stripes forever

EXACTLY . . . I live 25 east of Mendota and certainly do not consider it “remote”.


41 posted on 01/07/2014 4:32:39 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Many moons ago I was on the Empire Builder, traveling across rural North Dakota in mid winter. Somehow the front of the train became uncoupled and our cars were left stranded.

We had power for around an hour, then the lights went out, then it got cold. I mean COLD.

It was the middle of the night.

It took another several hours for the front part to come back and pick us up.

I remember thinking, what the HELL would we do if they didn't come back and left us there?

That part of ND is so isolated, I remember thinking, even if I got out and walked for help, there wasn't a house within 30 miles.

We'd be dead.

42 posted on 01/07/2014 4:40:31 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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I remember thinking, even if I got out and walked for help,...

Seems like every year or two someone freezes to death because they tried to walk to that farmhouse just over there...

Distances on the prairie can be deceiving, especially at night. What looks a half mile away is often much farther.

Best to stay with shelter. If you can't read the house number, or count the steps to the front door, it is likely too far to walk in subzero cold. Very few people dress for the weather (even here in ND) adequately enough to be out in it any length of time, and a half hour can kill you.

43 posted on 01/07/2014 6:42:40 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
My dad told me a story about such a situation.

When he was in the Air Force in the early '60s, a couple of buddies and he got drunk while parked on a remote highway in Montana in the deep winter. Once they sobered up, the car wouldn't start, so he walked to some farmhouse many miles away.

He made it, and woke up the VERY unhappy farmer, but the guy came out and helped jump start their car.

44 posted on 01/07/2014 8:04:18 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: KarlInOhio

My husband and I are doing an experiment on the dumb voters in our lives. We are saying this weather is caused by global warming in the same way you can actually freeze water by boiling it for a long time. It is our monthly, stump the socialists scheme.


45 posted on 01/08/2014 4:06:16 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

actually, Mendota is pretty remote. You get there after leaving US hiway 58 at Hiltons.

It is home to the Carter Family Fold, the home of the Carter Family , country music and June Carter Cash, wife of Johnny Cash.


46 posted on 01/08/2014 4:18:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Southwest Chief runs right through my little town, and the route has been cancelled the last two days. There is just no getting through yet.


47 posted on 01/08/2014 4:23:53 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: bert

“It is home to the Carter Family Fold, the home of the Carter Family , country music and June Carter Cash, wife of Johnny Cash.”

Does she still live there?


48 posted on 01/08/2014 5:07:23 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

No, she died years ago.

The Carter Fold is now run by sons and maybe grandsons.

It is still Mecca and most desired credit for blue grass bands


49 posted on 01/08/2014 5:25:52 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: stars & stripes forever

One other totally irrelevant factoid.

On Clinch Mountain, there is the obsolete Mendota Fire Tower. It is on the mountain just over Mendota

Every fall, lots of bird watchers climb the mountain to make a continuous watch and count of raptors. It is all rigorously mapped out so there is always someone there during the migration to make the count.

The hawks of all species migrating south follow the Clinch mountain line by the thousands. The faithful bird watchers meticulously spot, identify and record the passages. It is said that the continuous air currents up lifted by the extremely long Clinch Mountain ridgeline make soaring easier thus reducing the burden of the long flight south.

If you are a bird person and want to see lots of raptors of all species, the Mendota Fire Tower is the place to go.


50 posted on 01/08/2014 5:37:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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