All this might be good if the Democrat’s death grip on the vote count can be sprung before November. The dems control the counting of votes from the touch screen voting machines and the other varieties of electronic voting machines are eminently hackable. The right doesn’t do that to any extent. The left does it as SOP.
I think Obozocare will end up back before the Supreme Court, but this time arguing the origination clause.
Violation of the origination clause would kill Obozocare outright, not allowing portions to survive a challenge.
Dr. Hotze here in Texas filed a lawsuit back in May of 2013 challenging ACA on two grounds. This bill originated in the senate, not the house.
Secondly, Obamacare’s employer mandate violates the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment. It bars the federal government from requiring citizens to transfer their “wealth directly to others without a ‘public use,’” the lawsuit says. Governments can't require people to do business with other people.
If this ends up back before the SCOTUS and fails the constitutional challenge on these two grounds...Robert's will have pulled off a brilliant tactic.
For more on this, take a look at the link. Lotsa info.
http://www.hotzevobamacare.com/news/
The SCOTUS ruled Obamacare was a tax.
The Congress labels Obamacare as the implementation of healthcare as a human right.
Why do the Democrat Socialists demand we tax the rights of the people?
Rights aren’t taxable.
Ergo, Obamacare may not be funded by taxation.
Since the penalty was ruled a tax, and tax legislations is supposed to originate in the House not the Senate, I thought there was a lawsuit against it on that basis?
So Roberts violated his oath and the Constitution to save the GOP. In other words, the system doesn’t work unless someone cheats.
When, next this law comes before the high court they will again adjudicate on the law, but which law? The law as passed by the Congress or the law as it is being enforced now. Obama is doing things that are not allowed for in the ACA.
I saw it mostly this way back when it occurred, although I was hoping for quicker results in the 2012 election.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2900491/posts?page=65#65
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2900491/posts?page=33#33
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2900404/posts?page=98#98
Sorry I’m not buying it.
**The Court also invalidated two key provisions that were held to violate state sovereignty and the foundational concept of federalism. Each state was thereby free, if it chose (as many have), to decline the federal invitation to expand its Medicaid program, and free to not set up a state exchange to sell ACA-compliant policies.**
BTTT!
Another bit of wisdom:
*Law rewritten on the bench has seldom had such a glaring example. In effect, Roberts single-handedly forced all Americans to face — up front and personal — the epic political malpractice that is ObamaCare. “It is not our job,” he added, “to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.” Wow. Tough love.**
Bump for later read.
Sounds like Elite Establishment RHINOSPEAK to me.
Is it possible that Roberts was/is smarter than the average FReeper?
nawwww, could’t be,
/s
Is this case it's just MORE PONTIFICATING followed by the sound of crickets.
What sheer cunning on Roberts’ part. Heaven forbid he just uphold the Constitution when he can create such a mastermind political ploy. Muwahahahahahah....
Mr. Dunne is a wishful thinker. A romantic. O’Care was a brutal destruction of the American Health Insurance System. It is the most evil thing ever perpetrated upon our republic. We are in a war for survival. You don’t win a war by allowing the enemy to win. You win by destroying them every chance you get. This was a great chance. Lost forever. O’Care will fail but our health insurance system is destroyed and it will not come back. Our health care system is destroyed also they just don’t known it yet. Further the loss of trust in our institutions is irreversible for generations. No Mr. Dunne, it was not a master stroke, it was cowardice pure and simple. Cowardice in the face of the enemy.
“There is, I am confident, more to it than this.”
Well of course there was more to it than just a case of Robert’s writing the majority opinion on this “law”...
Funny thing, because I go back and recall that the question before the Supreme Court was NOT about the Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act, the question before the court was “Is is a Tax?” and that was what the clever disguise was...Not in the desire to establish the Constitutionality but to affirm that this law is actually a Tax first and foremost...
We knew the 4 liberal associate justices would side on the administrations side of the deal based on the nominations to the court before the case was taken on...Was a big deal made enough to get at least one of them to recuse herself from this case because of her association with the constructions of the Act bafore it was filed, and her nomination to the court blessed by the Senate???
Of course not...
So that leaves us with what I believed was the design all along and I stated as such back when this was being considered by the Supreme Court...
The Courts opinion was a signal, albiet a subtle one that should have given the republicans and a enough democrats enough wiggle room to remove this “tax” from the revenue generators/collectors to successfully kill the law and its funding mechanism...But they failed...Miserably...The Congress was given a gift by the Supremes to do that very thing and they blew it...
So what we are left with now is a damaged economy, an Act that is certainly, fundamentally changing the face of America as we speak, which is what Obama telegraphed to us wayyyyyyy before he was elected, and yet here we are... Weaker for our elected officials ineptness and corruptability in the face of clear ways to prevent the very situation we are in now...
A pizzed off electorate, with almost a year till we get to pull the plunger on as many of these shmups as we can in November...But in reality, I still do not believe there are enough people out there pizzed off to remember ANY of this before election day, much less each states primaries coming up soon...
Because we all know, our elected officials are the best ones up there and its always the other states idiots up there screwing things up, right??? /sarc
That sound you here is me still breathing, because I am not going to waste my time holding my breath anymore waiting on others in other states to take out their trash...Yeah, we have plenty to clean up in Texas...And some people are slowly wising up and taking notes...Hopefully that will be enough...But again, I am not holding my breath...
We always here in recent election cycles how critical the next election is...
I’m not playing that game anymore...It is beyond critical, the time to act is past, we have major corrective surgery to do, and until we get the right players in the operating room...The buzzer will be sounding loud and clear everytime you try to perform the operation yourself...
You can thank the media, and your politicians for that because they are more concerned about justifying their existance than saving this country...
Cause until YOU can admit that YOU were fooled, or, YOU were wrong...This country will continue its downward spiral right into oblivion, and that crash into the sea will not even be covered by the media, because no one will care enough to watch it...
I’ve already admitted it, and my only reward will be that I might possibly die in a country that still values personal freedom and liberties and haas the courage to fight off those that want to destroy those values...Nothing more matters...
Lets see how much courage there is left out there...I don’t believe there is much left...
I have a different theory of Roberts’ rationale. I think he was working for/with Romney and wanted to keep Obamacare as an active issue for the 2012 election to keep the base motivated to vote.
I think he (and Romney) both believed that the issue could get him elected. If that proved to be correct, brilliant.
If not, screw the people: they deserve what they get.
That’s my take on what happened.
Oh, spare me this silly argument again.