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Obama signs sweeping defense bill
Associated Press ^ | Dec 26, 2013 3:48 PM EST | Josh Lederman

Posted on 12/26/2013 1:35:16 PM PST by Olog-hai

President Barack Obama has signed into law a comprehensive defense bill that cracks down on sexual assault in the military. […]

The bill provides $552.1 billion for the regular military budget, plus $80.7 billion for the Afghanistan war and other overseas operations. …

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; agenda; congress; corruption; defensebill; democrats; harassment; military; obama; sexualassault

1 posted on 12/26/2013 1:35:16 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“The White House says Obama signed the bills Thursday while vacationing in Hawaii.”

Really, he signed it in Hawaii? Or did a staffer sign it at the White House with autopen? Or another option, is Jarrett in hawaii?


2 posted on 12/26/2013 1:38:44 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Olog-hai
The bill signing caps a yearlong campaign led by the women of the Senate to address the scourge of rape and sexual assault in the military. Under the bill, military commanders no longer will be permitted to overturn jury convictions for sexual assault

Military Justice system has become a kangaroo court for the left.


3 posted on 12/26/2013 1:39:15 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: Mastador1

Well, his bootlicker minions in the AP reported it so it must be another one of those. Did the bill exempt the many faggots who rape defenseless servicemen?


4 posted on 12/26/2013 1:53:17 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai
[Ø]bama has signed into law a comprehensive defense bill that cracks down on sexual assault in the military...

Does it actually outlaw the screwing that Øbama actually has been engaged in, screwing the US Military?

5 posted on 12/26/2013 2:04:41 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Olog-hai

Better wait for more complete reports on this bill.

As I recall, the Defense bill the house passed had over $600 Billion in it.


6 posted on 12/26/2013 2:10:40 PM PST by G Larry
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone remember this
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/us/obama-remark-is-complicating-military-trials.html?_r=0

“Remark by Obama Complicates Military Sexual Assault Trials”

Basically because he opened his mouth anyone in the military can get off because “defense lawyers have said that Mr. Obama’s words as commander in chief amounted to “unlawful command influence,” “ so he can make all the laws he wants put his words will get every military man/woman off if I remember correctly


7 posted on 12/26/2013 2:16:48 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Olog-hai

So a LAW is going to stop sexual harassment in the miitary? Only a fool believes that.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 2:26:53 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: blueyon
so he can make all the laws he wants put his words will get every military man/woman off if I remember correctly

Obama, just by opening his mouth, can get every military man/woman off? That would save them a ton of money on dates, right? I think that would be called the single player plan.
9 posted on 12/26/2013 2:35:43 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

We’ve got lots of those in elected seats.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 2:56:16 PM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: darkwing104

This change will be challenged in court, as it is blatant unlawful political influence over the military justice system. If the first politically mandated conviction is upheld, then the next step will be the appointment of “political commissars” to ensure that commanders are following political directives.


11 posted on 12/26/2013 3:22:03 PM PST by centurion316
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To: blueyon

Just as long as they don’t say “Merry Christmas”.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 3:47:46 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: centurion316

I can hear it now, “Yes sir, Zampolit Colonel”.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 4:28:26 PM PST by miele man
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To: Olog-hai

In said budget contains all those cuts on retired military and disabled veterans to save some money for free stuff for illegals and giving to the Islamic Brotherhood of Muzzie Murdering Thugs of which he is a proud member. Giving money to the enemy that uses the money and weapons he provides to kill our troops. What a guy.


14 posted on 12/26/2013 5:35:36 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: darkwing104

JAG is filled with shills, even during the bush Adnim.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 6:14:23 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: Olog-hai

When America has troops deployed in combat operations, we need either an automatic mandatory corporate and personal surtax, or commensurate budget cuts in services that will actually cover the costs of that war. The current generation must cover current costs, and also the after costs to replace equipment and take care of those who fought it. Politicians should never be permitted to make going to war an easy event where most citizens are not required to sacrifice.

It still upsets me that W and Congress initially played games with the wars to keep them off budget, and make the public believe it would involve no sacrifice.


16 posted on 12/26/2013 6:20:06 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: Olog-hai

“that cracks down on sexual assault in the military”

Is there a extra money to try and stop the epidemic homosexual rape that has went up 400% since Obamagabe lifted DADT. Or is that little secret the lamestream media refuses to talk about. You certainly never hear any member of Congress address it, democrat or republican. The new Army recruiting slogan should be “Be all you can be, join the Army where you can stay in shape running from sodomites that are trying to rape you”.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 6:41:05 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: Olog-hai
... I do find it curious that our troops are required to eat cold meals and sacrifice while our King lives in the lap of luxury and vacations like an emperor spending more on one single vacation to Hawaii than the entire British royal family of England spends in an entire year.

.... Yup .... I do find that curious.

18 posted on 12/26/2013 7:40:46 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Try this. Don’t put male officers and noncoms in command over female servicewomen, and vice versa.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 8:00:12 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Olog-hai

“has signed into law a comprehensive defense bill that cracks down on sexual assault in the military”

Well thank goodness our nations defense is being addressed.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 8:01:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Olog-hai
The bill strips commanders’ ability to overturn guilty verdicts, changes the military’s pre-trial rules for interviewing victims, expands a special victims counsel for sexual assault survivors and makes retaliating against victims a crime.

In short, a female falsely accusing a male military member of raping her can do so with even more impunity.

21 posted on 12/26/2013 8:02:48 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Eleutheria5

Keep women off warships.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 8:03:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Try this. Don’t put male officers and noncoms in command over female servicewomen, and vice versa.

Well, that would be segregation, which is a form of discrimination.

23 posted on 12/26/2013 8:10:36 PM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is a microcosm of his presidency, and the entire marxist fantasy.)
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To: oldbrowser

discrimination is not always a bad thing

like allowing single men not to buy maternity coverage in healthcare and not forcing 70 year old women to buy contraceptive coverage

sure it is discrimination but it makes sense


24 posted on 12/26/2013 8:13:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: oldbrowser

What’s wrong with wise discrimination?


25 posted on 12/26/2013 8:15:21 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Keep women out of combat arms.

Bring back the WAC’s and WAVE’s


26 posted on 12/26/2013 9:16:35 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Impeach 0bama)
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To: oldbrowser

So are male and female bathrooms. Do those go next?


27 posted on 12/26/2013 10:05:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Gives a new meaning to the phrase “drill sergeant riding your ass”.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 10:08:16 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Olog-hai

HJe signed a defence bill, and its based on sexual asault?

Look way behind that and you will see the seeds of destruction.

I do not believe anything that the press says about Obama. Its all just a huge charade of damnation and lies.


29 posted on 12/27/2013 2:25:41 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: darkwing104

what about the record amount of rapes on men by homosexual men in the military since don’t ask was overturned, infact rapes on men have reached record levels now and that is what is just recorded or reported .

Oh yea , can’t mention men being raped in the military can we as it’s not PC, lets focus on just women.
ARF


30 posted on 12/27/2013 6:23:39 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: R_Kangel
I find it arrogant \\. I was talking to a woman yesterday who is down here and she thought Obama was good because his health care gave her free, yea free contraception . When I mentioned how it was not free, how he is lazy, , how he has made stupid dumb comments like Austrian is a language, 57 states, corps Navy man, how he did not know about fast and furious, Benghazi, IRS, etc, or how he vacations all the time. She actually thought I was making all of it up. I even got the laptop and showed her and she was still in denial .
31 posted on 12/27/2013 6:32:20 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

AGREE, women should not be on ships, especially Subs and certainly not on the front lines and before anyone gets to get all PC on me then I have served and had to write reports on when they were experimenting with women serving on the front lines and have seen how women can disrupt most men, can’t carry the weight etc


32 posted on 12/27/2013 6:37:55 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Mastador1

I am betting Pres ValJar signed it in the WH.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 6:45:55 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Candor7

problem is that those lies are watched and heard and believed by millions of dopes in the country and trust me I had a debate with one yesterday.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 6:47:33 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

53% of sexual assault victims are male......http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/us/in-debate-over-military-sexual-assault-men-are-overlooked-victims.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


35 posted on 12/27/2013 6:59:55 AM PST by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

That would be withholding career opportunities from them, a form of discrimination. Equality uber alles. Career uber common sense.


36 posted on 12/27/2013 8:00:20 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: csmusaret

Sounds like ships are becoming prisons.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 8:41:08 AM PST by TurboZamboni ("PEACE ON EARTH TO MEN OF GOOD WILL".)
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To: csmusaret

And the majority of offenders are male. The homosexuals know that they can get away with anything thanks to the politically correct atmosphere in the military. Thank you presidents Clinton and Obama.


38 posted on 12/27/2013 9:00:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t wish the “pResident” any bad luck, but I hope he chokes on the bones.


39 posted on 12/27/2013 2:53:39 PM PST by Monkey Face (Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can sure muffle the sound!)
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To: Eleutheria5

It would be keeping them in jobs that they’re capable of.

I was in a co ed unit in Germany, and when orders to deploy to Bosnia as part of IFOR came down, over half the females in my unit got themselves knocked up to avoid being deployed.

Look at the invasion of Iraq... Jessica Lynch was touted as some hero when in fact she was cowering under her vehicle as the rest of her unit was being shot up.

The marines just lowered the standards for females to be in the infantry.


40 posted on 12/28/2013 7:23:31 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Impeach 0bama)
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To: centurion316

The commissars have already been put in place, and this bill expands them. In the Army at least, young attorney’s (JAGs) have already been dedicated solely to dealing with sexual harassment. If they want to be successful, they will need to tack more scalps on the wall than the average. Not surprisingly, the number of “reported”cases has ballooned 50 percent year over year. Subordinates now have surer ability to end a career than superiors, simply by making an unsubstantiated complaint, and letting the professional sharks make the kill.

This law expands the “special” victims counsels for sexual assault “survivors”. In other words, more commissars.


41 posted on 12/29/2013 6:37:48 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

One of the most important characteristics of the military justice system has been the constraints against “unlawful command influence”. JAG officers counsel commanders on how to avoid it, and defense JAG officers pounce on it when it occurs. The result has been a system where justice, not conviction rate has been paramount. The public’s perception is exactly the opposite, tut that perception is wrong.

In the civilian world, politics is the equivalent of unlawful command influence and the influence of politics is the primary driving force for many prosecutors. They give the public what they demand, convictions and they could give a damn about justice.

Once politics gains the upper hand within the military, our Armed Forces will be doomed. The signs are ominous.


42 posted on 12/29/2013 8:09:35 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Keep women off warships.”


Plain & simple, it is.


43 posted on 12/29/2013 1:48:15 PM PST by ourworldawry
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To: Olog-hai

I didn’t realize sexual assaults were such a problem in Afghanistan. Is there any money for weapons, combat pay, supplies?


44 posted on 01/01/2014 2:32:44 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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