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Boy Scouts' gay membership policy brings financial fallout
Tampa Bay Times ^ | Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:36pm | Waveney Ann Moore

Posted on 12/19/2013 4:04:43 PM PST by 11th_VA

Earlier this year, when the Boy Scouts of America changed its policy to allow openly gay members, a local council braced for repercussions.

"We knew back in May that it might be a challenge, but we didn't know how great a challenge," said Bill Davis, executive with the Scouts' West Central Florida Council, serving Pinellas and West Pasco counties.

"So far, the biggest fallout is the financial loss. We need about $75,000 to balance our budget this year."

Also feeling the wrath of those who disapprove of the Boy Scouts' decision is the Gulf Ridge Council, which serves eight counties, including Hillsborough, East Pasco, Citrus, Hernando and Polk.

"When you look at straight contributions through our Friends of Scouting Campaign, we are behind 15 percent," said George McGovern, executive director of the Gulf Ridge Council. "That's about $150,000."

Both Davis and McGovern said the financial shortfall will mean further paring of tight budgets.

The West Central Florida Council, with a staff of 12 full-time employees, operates on a budget of $1.4 million, Davis said.

"We have an audit done every year and 92.5 percent of every dollar we raise goes to program services," he said. "The belt is already on its last notch."

The new membership policy goes into effect on Jan. 1. The change, which does not apply to Scout leaders, is opposed by some religious institutions that sponsor Scouting and has led to the formation of a new national organization called Trail Life USA. The new group's website says it is a "Christian adventure, character and leadership program for young men."

In Tampa Bay, Scouting continues as usual in the Roman Catholic Diocese of St. Petersburg.

"We still take all kids," diocese spokesman Frank Murphy said. "Bishop's position is like all of our ministries, we are open to all people."

Ryan Phelan, head of youth and young adult ministry, said the diocese, which encompasses Pinellas, Hillsborough, Hernando, Citrus and Pasco counties, has more than 2,000 boys in Scouting.

"We would never deny a young person the opportunity to grow in their faith and their understanding of what they are being called to in life," he said.

The Rev. Louis Murphy, pastor of Mount Zion Progressive Missionary Baptist Church, one of the largest African-American churches in St. Petersburg, disagrees with those who have decided to withdraw their support from Scouting.

"To discriminate against a person and to tell a person that they can't participate in an organization because of their sexual orientation, I don't think that's right," said Murphy, a former West Central Florida Council executive whose son, pro football player Louis Murphy Jr., earned the highest rank of Eagle Scout.

"I just think we need to come out of this box that we're in and look at ways we can be fair and just," he said.

In a statement, Boy Scouts of America spokesman Deron Smith said the movement is thankful that "the overwhelming majority" of its approximately 116,000 units remain committed to Scouting.

"Nationally, only a handful of chartered organizations have decided not to renew their sponsorship of troops," he said. "In the very rare instance that a chartered organization has chosen not to continue … other organizations have stepped up to charter those units and provide uninterrupted service to the youth in their communities."

Calvary Chapel, whose sprawling Pinellas Park campus once was a Walmart, will drop its Scouting program at the end of the year. Pastor Jim O'Connor, head of the children's ministry, said some boys will continue with Scouting at another location. Others will join Trail Life, the newly founded alternative.

"Trail Life is a better fit for our objectives and our beliefs," said O'Connor, adding that Calvary Chapel will hold its kickoff meeting on Thursday.

Defection has been negligible in the Gulf Ridge Council, McGovern said. To date, out of the more than 350 churches, civic clubs and businesses that allow Scouts to meet on their premises, only 11 have pulled their support, he said. Other organizations quickly offered to take in the ousted Scouts, McGovern said.

"Our Cub Scout recruitment is up 20 percent," he said. "We're still serving young people and people are still choosing Boy Scouts. Our focus is to get off the politics and get on serving young people."

The organization's financial deficit will have to be made up by businesses and families "who continue to believe in the mission of the Boy Scouts of America and see the direct benefits" of the Gulf Ridge Council, he said.

Davis said the West Central Florida Council gets most of its funding from the United Way, corporations and individuals. Private donors — many passionate alumni of Scouting — happen to be the largest source of such funds, he said, and those opposed to the new policy were vocal about their feelings.

"They called, they emailed, they sent letters," Davis said.

And withdrew their financial support.

The national organization, though, isn't acknowledging a correlation between the new policy and Scouting finances.

"It is impossible to accurately specify how much support the BSA receives or doesn't receive as a result of any single issue," its spokesman said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; traillife
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To: 11th_VA

Sell your souls to the devil....


41 posted on 12/19/2013 5:49:09 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: 11th_VA

those opposed to the new policy were vocal about their feelings.

“They called, they emailed, they sent letters,” Davis said.

And withdrew their financial support.


Choices were made by all parties................


42 posted on 12/19/2013 5:49:27 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Chode

Dead on the vine


43 posted on 12/19/2013 5:50:38 PM PST by Broker (Never submit!)
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To: 11th_VA; RichInOC; Prince of Space; JoeFromSidney; TNMountainMan; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

44 posted on 12/19/2013 5:51:41 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Broker
dead to me, that's for sure...
45 posted on 12/19/2013 5:53:30 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: kaehurowing

We stopped buying Girl Scout cookies years ago. I’m thinking it’s been at least five or six years, possibly more.


46 posted on 12/19/2013 5:54:17 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cyclotic
I will be Troopmaster of a Trail Life USA troop.

Awesome !!! I'm thinking of asking our church to support as well

47 posted on 12/19/2013 5:54:17 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: SueRae

>> I just saw that Lockheed Martin was withdrawing its’ financial support form the BSA

Yup. Going halfway to homosexuality didn’t work out for BSA.

Regarding the scouts, BSA should have insisted that the “sexual orientation” of minors is not a matter for the organization.


48 posted on 12/19/2013 6:00:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 11th_VA

Parents don’t want their boys in tents with homos? Wow - never saw that coming.


49 posted on 12/19/2013 6:06:36 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: 11th_VA

More on Lockheed: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3103517/posts


50 posted on 12/19/2013 6:19:00 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: 11th_VA
I resigned as a BSA merit badge counselor. I'll sign up with Trail Life when they get organized around here.
51 posted on 12/19/2013 6:28:30 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: NetAddicted
You posted the wrong link, but I posted to that other thread earlier. I saw this thing coming 15 years ago when Raytheon bought out Texas Instruments. The were one of the first companies to start pushing the Gay Agenda - now it's infected most of corporate America.

Our CEO has swallowed the whole pickle, so to speak ...

52 posted on 12/19/2013 6:31:20 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA

The object is to destroy the Boy Scouts, and it’s working.


53 posted on 12/19/2013 6:33:33 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Venturer

Correct.

Someone wants the land.


54 posted on 12/19/2013 6:39:05 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 11th_VA

When the homosexuals start getting arrested and sued for raping the boys/young men will those that have stayed continue to support it?


55 posted on 12/19/2013 8:41:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 11th_VA

BSA It sucks doesn’t it?

Never mind....


56 posted on 12/19/2013 8:46:50 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: taxcontrol

My son stayed in since he had just a few months left and is trying to complete his Eagle. I stopped donating, and instead donated to the church that sponsored his troop.


57 posted on 12/19/2013 9:43:13 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GeronL

Oh so true! I also tend to think that the BSA is taking an incremental approach to allowing homosexual adult leaders.

Which I do believe has always been part of the plan.


58 posted on 12/20/2013 6:40:42 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SandRat

I won’t buy anymore mainly because of the price. Eleven bucks for a 15 ounce bag (or something like that) I’ll buy Fiddle-Faddle cheaper than that.


59 posted on 12/20/2013 6:42:00 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 11th_VA

The more the merrier. I attended the Trail Life convention in Nashville. It was an amazing thing. The program is better than the BSA program. You’ll like it.


60 posted on 12/20/2013 1:50:35 PM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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