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Posted on 12/17/2013 4:19:00 PM PST by mandaladon
MSNBC HOSTS RADICAL IDEA: EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT
On Tuesdays edition of MSNBCs The Cycle, co-host Krystal Ball suggested that the United States implement a minimum guaranteed income for every non-incarcerated adult citizen. The enormous entitlement program would eliminate poverty completely, Ball claimed.
Referencing protests occurring across the globe, the MSNBC host made her pitch for a monthly minimum income or a mincome. The free government money would not only solve poverty, but it would not create deincentives to work, she claimed.
The basic concept is simple, she said. Every non-incarcerated adult citizen gets a monthly check from the government. Other safety net programs are jettisoned to pay for the mincome, and poverty is eliminated. Now I know what youre thinking: This is some crazy left-wing utopian idea that only Marxists like Krystal Ball and Pope Francis could possibly support, Ball continued. She then argued that the idea has found support on the right, citing Reasons Matthew Freeney who suggested giving the poor cash.
Ball went on to cite a study about a Canadian town in the 1970s that reportedly implemented a minimum income and not only was poverty eliminated, but the disincentives to work has a minimal effect on productivity.
We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize in a country as rich as ours we allow those outcomes as a choice. We could decide to eliminate poverty and it wouldnt even take a Christmas miracle, Ball said.
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Hey, let’s throw in a new car and golf clubs every year..........gotta do something while we wait for our checks...
Is it the water or global warming...??
Our country's broke. We have to borrow money from China to pay the interest on our debt.
The quicker America collapses, the better.
I think Bush had to beg China to buy bonds.
Baraq just has Ben & Janet create liquidity.
If we print and distribute money to every person on the planet, we will have eliminated WORLD poverty!! Let’s stop thinking small and end poverty for once and all.
Hey, as long as the Fed can QE as much money as is deemed prudent and sufficient, Krystal Ball’s thesis is spot on. The real question then would be: why should anybody ever report to work?
These people have manure for brains. They could grow vegetables up there.
Establishment Republicans are calling up our congressmen asking them to do amnesty. So I am thinking they can pay for this just like the elite Dem’s.
Is this a trick question?
I'll take a shot
Not that new an idea, it was brought up in the 1960’s as GAI, Guaranteed Annual Income and was paid for as stock in companies.
For the privilege of being in business you gave the Government, so many thousands of shares of ‘Common Stock’. Those were issued on a lifetime basis at the ‘age of majority’, upon death the shares reverted back to the Government.
A person could buy individual ‘preferred shares’ to augment their income.
Typical socialist garbage that assumes that the Corporations would ‘always’ make money for them to be fleeced of. Sooner or later you run out of ‘Other peoples money’.
If there can be an accompanying Constitutional amendment prohibiting all other social welfare programs and progressive taxation, I would actually favor he idea. “You get what you get and don’t throw a fit.”
From the genius’s that gave us, “If we would just buy our meat from the store, we could stop hunting animals!”
yep...all that money wouldn't go to drugs, booze, lottery tickets, etc. (rolling eyes)
Why should we have to settle with merely eliminating poverty. Let’s make everyone rich. Who doesn’t want to be rich after all?
She is resurrecting the old guaranteed annual income which was popular with the 60s radicals and had its original popularity in the depression. “Every man a king,” yelled Huey Long.
This idea goes back to the ‘30’s. It had such political popularity that FDR had to counter it or face running against a populist who was proposing this. That’s how we ended up with Social Security.
Why screw around with half measures, just give everyone a billion dollars.
that way everyone is rich.
The monthly checks are already going out and we’re already going bankrupt. This is just consolidating them into one check, rearranging the deck chairs.
I always thought “Journalism” cirrula was nothing but a collection of crib courses, so I guess basic econ wasn’t on the list, along with any common sense.
The sooner we get to SHTF, the quicker we can get our Republic back.
how about zero taxpayer funded governent handouts. If you don’t work, you starve. If you starve to death, the poverty problem ends.
Welfare for drug dealers.... scammers of every sort....
Source: Michael Savage
I posted before I read yours. “Good” ideas never die.
Actually, it makes sense once we realize their plan to lock up all the Bible believers and politically conservatives in labor/re-education camps - the only ones left outside bars will be their kind . . .
McGovern proposed that in 1972....
I want a free National Ski Pass.
The problem with this idea is that there are people
in the White House that think this way too.
Would THIS income be TAXED?....
I think that this Krystal Ball is cracked a bit. Might do to rename her “8 Ball”.
I wonder if she is related to Rep. John Boehner, Mr. “No Ball”. Just asking.
See, things aren’t so hard to fix when you look at them the right way. UFB!!!
I want on of those Trillion $ coins.
I'm actually surprised he purposes to cut other safety net programs...
How will they get the libtards to vote?
There are no words.
I only remembered it because I just bought a Mega-pack of Mack Reynolds stories. It was one of the ideas he loved and hated at the same time.
It’s like so many of the other drug fueled ideas for utopia that these people never outgrew. As one once famously said: “It’s really such a pity that reality keeps interfering with my dreams of utopia.”
Laz I agree the faster this things folds the better it will be.
If they throw in foodstamps and free healthcare, sign me up.
Well, you can’t have that, but if you’re an American citizen you are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven — don’t watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym — I’ll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi, real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year’s supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth, and Bob Dylan’s new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick, Rosemary’s baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador,
a new mastodon,
a Merc Montclair,
a Mark IV,
an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty,
a Mac truck,
a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago — Hell, a herd of Winnebago’s we’re giving ‘em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby’s arm holding an apple?
Let’s think about this.
If we used this to end *all* of the other wealth redistribution programs, and shut down all their various support agencies and structures, this could actually be a net savings to the taxpayer from what we have now.
No more welfare, no Social Security, no disability, no Medicaid or Medicare, just one simple flat - rate payment to every adult citizen.
I love that Bill Gates nor Larry Ellison have no more than I have.
I am on board with the magic eight ball. I think that the min wage should be equal to the salary of a congressman.
It’s only fair.
I also think that, to be fair, the Cubs should win the next World Series.
Yes, they are stupid. Half of our population places on the LEFT side of the Bell Curve, and we’re surprised that they’re stupid?
I don’t need you to send me a check...I’ll just keep what I’m sending you in taxes, that will be my portion of the check I would otherwise get.
I’m kinda where you are on this. I’m retired early (age 54). Send me the money. Lower medicare to age 50. Someone will pay for it. I don’t care who. I’ll pickup supplemental insurance (or just pay the diff). The young people can have cheaper premiums if us old guys aren’t in the obamacare mix. And they can have all the free birth control they want. I don’t care. BTW.....Will the government do a direct deposit in the Caymans?
I want a free National Ski Pass.
You want it, you got it.
Feel free to ski whenever and where ever you want.
I’d be careful of skiing on the bus though someone
might take advantage of you.
LOL That was the 60s okay “until reality got in its way.”