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Florida school named for Ku Klux Klan leader to be renamed
NBC News.com ^ | 12/17/2013 | Eric M. Johnson

Posted on 12/17/2013 12:38:23 PM PST by nikos1121

A Florida high school that for 54 years has borne the name of a leader of the Ku Klux Klan is to be renamed, officials said.

The Nathan Bedford Forrest High School in Jacksonville, Fla., where more than half the students are black, will change its name from that of the man who allegedly was the Ku Klux Klan's first grand wizard.

A new name will be proposed in January.

"We recognize that we cannot and are not seeking to erase history," said Constance Hall, a board member for the Duval County school, which was founded 54 years ago.

"For too long and too many, this name has represented the opposite of unity, respect, and equality," Hall said in a statement.

Forrest was an innovative cavalry leader and a lieutenant general in the Confederate Army during the Civil War. He joined the Ku Klux Klan after the war; there remains a dispute over his role.

With its roots in the Civil War era, the Ku Klux Klan has long been associated with hooded, white-robed night riders who menaced blacks with cross burnings, lynchings and other acts of violence.

The honoring of Confederate heroes and emblems has been a divisive issue in the United States, with proponents saying it pays homage to regional history and opponents saying it amounts to racism.

Memphis, Tenn., in February this year dropped Confederate names from three city parks. One was named after Forrest.

Omotayo Richmond, who moved to Jacksonville from New York, wrote in a Change.org petition that garnered more than 160,000 signatures in support of changing the school's name that doing so would go toward healing "so much racial division" in Florida.

"African American Jacksonville students shouldn't have to attend a high school named for someone who slaughtered and terrorized their ancestors one more school year," Richmond wrote.

The 1,300-student public school, which became racially integrated in 1971, had voted some five years ago to keep the name, but those officials had been replaced, the petition said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bedford; forrest; kkk; nathan

1 posted on 12/17/2013 12:38:24 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Was the Klan leader also a Democratic Party leader in the US Senate? That seems to make it OK.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 12:39:41 PM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: nikos1121

Obviously, they know nothing about this great man who, as I recalled, dropped out of the Ku Klux Klan because they were too radical.


3 posted on 12/17/2013 12:40:09 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

So now, are they going to move on and re-name all of the places in West Virginia named after a well known Klan leader, Robert Byrd????

Or does Byrd get a pass because he was a good Democrat???


4 posted on 12/17/2013 12:40:11 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

What about the schools named after serial killer, drone king Obama?


5 posted on 12/17/2013 12:41:46 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dilbert San Diego

My first thought as well...


6 posted on 12/17/2013 12:41:54 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Ingtar
Was the Klan leader also a Democratic Party leader in the US Senate? That seems to make it OK

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

In 1942, 24-year-old Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), whose parades in Matoaka, West Virginia, he had witnessed in his childhood. He was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter.[8]

Byrd, in his autobiography, attributed the beginnings of his political career to this incident, although he lamented that they involved the Klan. According to Byrd, a KKK official told him "You have a talent for leadership, Bob... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd recalls that "suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[4] He participated in the KKK during World War II, holding the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops [the top officer in the local Klan unit]. He did not serve in the military during the war, working instead as a welder in a Baltimore, Maryland shipyard, where he helped build warships.[citation needed]

Byrd commented on the 1945 controversy about racially integrating the military. Byrd, when he was 28 years old, wrote to segregationist Senator Theodore Bilbo, of Mississippi, vowing never to serve in such a military:

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.[5]"

He had earlier written "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side".[6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Participation_in_the_Ku_Klux_Klan
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From the Washington Post:

"Byrd said in the Dec. 11, 1945, letter -- which would not become public for 42 more years with the publication of a book on blacks in the military during World War II by author Graham Smith -- that he would never fight in the armed forces "with a Negro by my side." Byrd added that, "Rather I should die a thousand times, and see old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.."..."

"during the general election campaign, Byrd's GOP opponent uncovered a letter Byrd had handwritten to Green, the KKK Imperial Wizard, recommending a friend as a Kleagle and urging promotion of the Klan throughout the country. The letter was dated 1946 -- long after the time Byrd claimed he had lost interest in the Klan. "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia," Byrd wrote, according to newspaper accounts of that period. Byrd makes no mention of the letter in his new book."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html

7 posted on 12/17/2013 12:42:32 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: nikos1121

It’s a trend of the times, to re-name places to be politically correct.

A few years ago, New Orleans renamed George Washington school. Since Washington owned slaves, he was deemed unworthy of the honor of a school named for him.. That school was renamed after an African king. Which presumeably helped the self esteem and academic achievement of the largely black student body at the former George Washington school.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 12:42:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: henkster

Mine also, but I know the question is rhetorical. ‘rat KKK leaders get a pass, just as their favored criminals do.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 12:43:47 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

LOL! Bet that old self esteem quotient went sky high. I guess the FL school will be the “travon martin memorial institute for higher learning”. Or just the “skittles school of cultural diversity”.


10 posted on 12/17/2013 12:46:06 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: nikos1121
The Urbanos have been trying to "rename" NBF school for decades. This is nothing new.

Forrest was the first to disband the Klan, long before its resurgence with the Progressives and Wilson, which is the "Klan" most folks think of if they ever give a moment's thought to "the Klan," at all.

Think of it. By the time "the Klan" had its day in the sun, marching down Pennsylvania Avenue in the early 20th century, the time for segregationists to hide under sheets was long past. By that time, fifty years after Reconstruction, racists had no need to hide. All they needed to do was join the Democrat Party.

Forrest marched with Sherman, for crying out loud, during the reunion parades.

This isn't smart enough to call it revisionism. It's just stupidity.

11 posted on 12/17/2013 12:48:44 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Prospero

I think Forrest was dead at least a decade before the Klan reformed into it’s current incarnation.


12 posted on 12/17/2013 12:52:28 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: ETL
Shame on you....you forgot to include the link to one of Sheet's best known quotes..the "white nigger" interview with Tony Snow..we gotta give the devil his due.
13 posted on 12/17/2013 12:53:17 PM PST by ken5050 (I still miss Howlin)
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To: nikos1121; All

Well, there goes the “skeer”


14 posted on 12/17/2013 12:54:01 PM PST by ken5050 (I still miss Howlin)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“That school was renamed after an African king.”

His Heinous Barack Obama?


15 posted on 12/17/2013 12:55:16 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Ingtar
Democrats all... not a republican in the crowd.

The saying at the time was "If we let blacks vote, they will just vote for republicans"

16 posted on 12/17/2013 12:56:41 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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To: nikos1121
Cool! We can win this.

Now start a target school with the same name, with a solid classic American curriculum, that graduates students that are functional, great debaters by their understanding and application of Aristotelian logic, and they will scoop up the college scholarships.

17 posted on 12/17/2013 12:57:03 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: nikos1121

It will be a difficult choice between Baraq Obama Elementary and Nelson Mandela Academy...


18 posted on 12/17/2013 12:58:35 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Prospero

It was 38 years between Forrest’s death and the Klan rebirth. PC history only has him distancing himself from it. No, he did indeed disband it.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 1:01:04 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: ken5050
Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, Ex-Klansman
by Michelle Malkin (March 8, 2001)

Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually used the phrase "white nigger" twice on national TV this weekend. Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen. Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not.

The ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups and utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are Democrats. They belong to the party of racial tolerance and understanding. They're paragons of virtue, and the rest of us are bigoted rubes.

The ex-Klansman showed his true colors when asked by Fox News Sunday morning talk show host Tony Snow about the state of race relations in America. Sen. Byrd warned: "There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I'm going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=383

20 posted on 12/17/2013 1:02:33 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: nikos1121

Uh, I think he was a cavalry officer in the Confederate Army and THAT is why the school was named for him.

I am really happy they are making such SIGNIFICANT contributions towards the education of kids. (Sarcasm).

Sometimes the Educational Establishment is DEFINTELY NOT
“The Fustist with the Mostist.”


21 posted on 12/17/2013 1:03:11 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: nikos1121

Anyone who remembers Lt. Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest first as the Klan’s founder is nothing more than a bigot. Forrest was first and foremost a cavalry commander of the highest order, in a league with JEB Stuart and Joe Wheeler. And Forrest was completely self-taught.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 1:22:39 PM PST by IronJack
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To: nikos1121

Saint Skittles Academy ?


23 posted on 12/17/2013 1:36:57 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Ingtar

Robert C. Byrd High School
Clarksburg, WV 26301


24 posted on 12/17/2013 1:39:22 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: nikos1121

Robert E. Byrd Hangem High?


25 posted on 12/17/2013 1:40:34 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: nikos1121

Are they going to rename everything in West Virginia that is named after the Democrat KKK a-hole Robert Byrd?


26 posted on 12/17/2013 1:41:56 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: nikos1121

So much racial division has been healed! /s


27 posted on 12/17/2013 1:44:22 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: nikos1121

Another school named after a Democrat racist.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 2:03:17 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: nikos1121
Are we going to rename the Hugo Black Federal Courthouse?


29 posted on 12/17/2013 2:03:34 PM PST by oblomov
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To: nikos1121

I think of Nathan Bedford Forrest as a Confederate general and a great one at that. I never think of him starting the Klan.

BTW, didn’t the Klan start as gentleman’s club type of thing? Just a club where some Southern gentleman could meet and socialize together. And then only later became a political organization? Seems like I remember that from the history of the Klan.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 2:09:28 PM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“That school was renamed after an African king. Which presumeably helped the self esteem and academic achievement of the largely black student body at the former George Washington school.”

As long as the descendants of the Founding Fathers and subsequent the European settlers who built this country don’t breed, expect this nonsense to proceed (at a faster pace). Blacks themselves aren’t keeping pace with the Hispanics, either; they’ll end up in urban schools that are 65% Hispanic named after Fidel Castor, Che Guevarra, and Athualpa...


31 posted on 12/17/2013 2:18:03 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: nikos1121

I’ll bet that’ll get those GPAs up. Smart move!


32 posted on 12/17/2013 3:24:26 PM PST by davisfh
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To: nikos1121

Forrest joined the Klan at the invitation of General Gordon (Gov. of GA) to be a leader to guide their aims. The purpose was a protective military organization at the state level. Stanton’s carpetbaggers, corrupt Freedmen’s bureaus, scalawags and property thieves of every stripe along with the ex-Union veteran’s groups- the Loyal Leagues and the Grand Army of the Republic- these were the object of the original Klan, protecting what remained of status quo ownership along with political pressure on freed slaves. The Northern military groups being fraternal Union military organizations who organized to continue the war by other means against the South, and generally for political and personal profit and gain—again at the expense of the freed slaves. The original Klan was disbanded in 1869 by Forrest. What came after was the creation of lesser people and appealed to poor bigots, Democrats and unions in multiple post war depressions and FDR’s Depression— it is this klan that is quite disgusting, and which is seized on by every knee jerk liberal in the stereotype they need.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 3:43:59 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ETL

The man who used the quite appropriate moniker “whigger” to describe a phenomena of cultural melding.

The black white schism must be maintained— to achieve and carry out the CPUSA playbook list. This was done in the 20s and 30s as well.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 3:46:39 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yes. In 1869, having achieved it’s chartered goals.


35 posted on 12/17/2013 3:49:26 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Re: “whigger”

Did you mean to reply to my post 20, as opposed to 7?


36 posted on 12/17/2013 3:59:01 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Well, both great posts— and people need to keep hammering this. Had to agree on many levels on the “whigger” comment having had family affected by the affectation of the music and language of rap and crack- which made no sense whatsoever.

Byrd btw was born in NC and moved to WV. People have little understanding of the times and the politics, the threads that tie.


37 posted on 12/17/2013 4:06:00 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

A good example is that a-hole Eminem. And we’re talking about street trash thug types here, not ordinary working class people.


38 posted on 12/17/2013 4:11:19 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: nathanbedford

Ping - for your information.


39 posted on 12/17/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: ETL
Exalted Cyclops....


40 posted on 12/17/2013 5:01:38 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: nikos1121

???

They named a school in FLORIDA for Ku Klux Bobby Byrd?


41 posted on 12/17/2013 5:06:48 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: hosepipe
He [the late DEMOCRAT senator Robert Byrd] participated in the KKK during World War II, holding the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops [the top officer in the local Klan unit]

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42 posted on 12/17/2013 5:26:27 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
That school was renamed after an African king.

I wonder if that African king was a slave owner? Or, for that matter, was he involved with the slave trade?

43 posted on 12/17/2013 5:30:56 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

The slave trade in Africa is alive and well to this day. And it’s of the worst kind. Sex slaves, child slaves, etc.


44 posted on 12/17/2013 5:42:24 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: John S Mosby; nathanbedford; All

Nathan Bedford Forrest, raised two armies, developed tactics that are still taught at West Point, and was the only Private on either side of the Civil War to rise to the rank of General.

After the Civil War was over, General Robert E. Lee was asked who his best General was. General Lee replied: “The man I never met, General Nathan Bedford Forrest.


45 posted on 12/17/2013 9:23:25 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: IronJack

You can also thank Forrest for not extending the war a couple more years. A lot of his men didn’t want to surrender. Forrest told them go home, take care of their families and hold their head high. They would have followed him to hell and back. He was the greatest general of the war, both north and south. The stories about him slapping the hell out of Bragg were true. He threatened to kill him as he was walking out the door. Deo Vindice.


46 posted on 12/17/2013 9:39:27 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("God never tires of forgiving us, we are the ones who tire of seeking his mercy" - Pope Francis)
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To: nikos1121

won’t do much to change jacksonville decline

it’s always outsiders that stir crap up

i recall the students rejected this just a few years ago


47 posted on 12/18/2013 12:10:42 AM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: nikos1121

They just need to find a more politically-correct person named Forrest.

In 2005, King County (Seattle) Washington, re-purposed itself as being named after Martin Luther King.

I kid you not:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_County,_Washington


48 posted on 12/18/2013 12:32:11 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

And, to our everlasting shame, a former black panther turned county councilmoron louis gossett pushed it through. Even then the attitude by the promoters was, “Why would you be opposed to this? Are you racist?”


49 posted on 12/18/2013 9:55:21 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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