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Was Rick Santorum Right About Polygamy After All?
The Daily Beast ^ | December 16, 2013 | Justin Miller

Posted on 12/16/2013 5:16:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican was once savaged for suggesting polygamy could become legal if the Supreme Court killed anti-sodomy laws. Now a judge has ruled against Utah’s anti-polygamy statute.

A decade ago, Rick Santorum said polygamy, among other things, would be allowed if bans on sodomy were struck down by the Supreme Court.

“Sometimes I hate it when what I predict comes true,” the once and likely future Republican presidential candidate tweeted Sunday after a federal judge decriminalized polygamy in Utah.

Judge Clark Waddoups ruled late Friday that parts of the state’s law are unconstitutional, based on a Supreme Court ruling that legalized sodomy across the nation.

In 2003, referring to the landmark gay rights case Lawrence v. Texas before the Supreme Court, Santorum told the Associated Press:

“If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Pennsylvania; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: demagogue; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; polyamory; polyandery; polygamistagenda; polygamy; polygyny; santorum; supremecourt; utah
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So almost 60% supposedly are fine with same-sex marriage, but 83% disapprove of polygamy? Huh?
1 posted on 12/16/2013 5:16:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 12/16/2013 5:17:46 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

Unless you marry sisters you’ll have more than one mother-in-law. Yikes! How did King Solomon put up with that?


3 posted on 12/16/2013 5:19:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m guessing that incest is next on the agenda.


4 posted on 12/16/2013 5:19:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>So almost 60% supposedly are fine with same-sex marriage, but 83% disapprove of polygamy? Huh?<<

When I asked “why 2” I was pelted with stones.

Next up — a petition to marry one’s sibling, mother, father, or any combination thereof.

Since same-sex couples cannot procreate naturally all incest taboos are rendered moot.


5 posted on 12/16/2013 5:21:20 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was a king. Lacking that kind of power you’re probably going to have trouble.


6 posted on 12/16/2013 5:22:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: cripplecreek

Adult child sex is next.


7 posted on 12/16/2013 5:23:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cripplecreek

8 posted on 12/16/2013 5:23:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: SkyDancer

The price for marrying two women is two wives. And two mothers-in-law.


9 posted on 12/16/2013 5:24:04 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: TigersEye

Hahahaha! I was thinking that as I pressed “post.”


10 posted on 12/16/2013 5:24:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives saw this coming from more than a decade away.


11 posted on 12/16/2013 5:25:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 posted on 12/16/2013 5:25:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet he still had indigestion at time. lol


13 posted on 12/16/2013 5:26:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: cripplecreek
Of course polygamy is next, but incest will not be far behind, especially now since the problem of birth defects has been worked out through contraception and abortion.

Pedophiles are working on making that legal.

You see these things are all becoming recognized by psychiatrists as merely preferences and not perversions.
When they took down homosexuality as a perversion and made it a preference they started the ball rolling for all sexual perversions to be recognized. people who accept this must accept all preferences.

14 posted on 12/16/2013 5:35:23 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTW I not surprise with TLC Sister wives get good ratings even they show how freaky this family is I have feeling Utah would say OKAY


15 posted on 12/16/2013 5:37:15 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: driftdiver

I agree they will push to lower the age of consent eventually to puberty.


16 posted on 12/16/2013 5:37:58 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tooth paste, you get back in the tube right now!


17 posted on 12/16/2013 5:39:47 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I dont think they will stop at puberty. They already argue that children have a right to sex.


18 posted on 12/16/2013 5:40:24 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigersEye

I’m thinking he still had trouble. Maybe that’s why so many of his Psalms are written from the depths of despair?


19 posted on 12/16/2013 5:42:24 PM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: SevenofNine
I watched 3 or 4 episodes and they seemed like a good family except for the polygyny (the actual term when a man has multiple wives) and they reminded me of Duck Dynasty in some ways.
20 posted on 12/16/2013 5:43:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: SkyDancer

I am curious what the subject of that painting actually is...


21 posted on 12/16/2013 5:43:31 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Solomon might have hung out with the concubines….


22 posted on 12/16/2013 5:47:40 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: driftdiver
Reading a few dozen comments, it's clear that most of the responding libtards are utopian bliss-ninny fools. "What's the harm if a bunch of adults want to have sex and get married?"

First-level-thinking utopian morons.

They can't even stretch far enough to see that every society that legalizes polygamy winds up like the muslims or the throwback Mormons, with evil old men trading nieces as wives like the old perverts they are. The poor girls are raised in this "your job is to please your husband as wife #7" environment, and it's a hard cultural brainwash and mindf**k to overcome, that leads to many social pathologies.

One man and one woman = one marriage was the time-tested pillar of modern Western civilization. It tied their mutual loyalties together, where poly "marriages" become snake pits of back stabbers and baby poisoners. Just look at the muslim world today.

The out of wedlock birthrate has gone from an historical level of below 5% (solid social cement) to nearly 50% in 50 years. Looking forward, "the bridge is out!" Watch out below!

Idiots. That's why I wrote Alas, Brave New Babylon. For the record. As we shall shortly see.

Link to the full-text Free Republic thread.


23 posted on 12/16/2013 5:48:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: knittnmom

He had to experience that stress somewhere! ;^)


24 posted on 12/16/2013 5:49:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Rick Santorum said polygamy, among other things, would be allowed if bans on sodomy were struck down by the Supreme Court. “

Well of course he was right. Once marriage between a man and a woman is deemed to be just one of many types of marriage; why would not multiple marriages be legal?
On what grounds could it be opposed?


25 posted on 12/16/2013 5:49:40 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Rodamala
In The Iliad, the king of Argos, Agamemnon, sacrifices his daughter Iphigenia to the Gods to assure good sailing weather to Troy. In Agamemnon, the first play of Aeschylus's Oresteia trilogy, Agamemnon is murdered by his wife, Clytemnestra, and her lover, Aegisthus as revenge for sacrificing Iphigenia. In The Libation Bearers, the second play of the Orestia, Agamemnon's son Orestes returns home to take revenge on his mother for murdering his father.

Orestes ultimately does murder his mother, and afterward is tormented by The Furies, beings who personify the anger of the dead.

Orestes being tormented by the Furies has been depicted by a number of artists.

26 posted on 12/16/2013 5:54:16 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Can you imagine 72 MIL’s for those Muslim’s 72 virgins. Now if that’s not Hell, then what isn’t? I’m thinking 72 Jewish MIL’s ... Oy Vey!!!!!


27 posted on 12/16/2013 5:55:39 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just think Jewish MIL’s .... now if that’s not ........


28 posted on 12/16/2013 5:56:28 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A common thought is that polygamy oppresses women, which from what I've seen it usually does in varying degress.

I think the big push will come from the polyamory crowd, women wanting two hubbies and maybe even a lesbian thrown in for good measure.

29 posted on 12/16/2013 6:03:30 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: cripplecreek

No, pedophilia.

Age of consent for adult with minor child of at least 14 years of age. But then the 14 years of age requirement can creep to 12 and younger if it’s documented as consensual.

Seems unlikely doesn’t it? But then I thought the same about homosexual ‘marriage’ about 10 years ago.


30 posted on 12/16/2013 6:06:50 PM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just think of the most deviant behavior and it is just on the horizon!


31 posted on 12/16/2013 6:17:57 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

of course I knew that years ago


32 posted on 12/16/2013 6:18:48 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

wait until people start marrying animals or inanimate objects


33 posted on 12/16/2013 6:19:28 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MYTH Romneys father had 3 grandmothers.

One wife per male is good policy.

34 posted on 12/16/2013 6:21:29 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect he drank a lot.


35 posted on 12/16/2013 6:26:01 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well said, and I’m stealing this phrase from you-”bliss-ninny fools”.


36 posted on 12/16/2013 6:26:36 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Still trying to figure out why anybody cares what Rick Santorums opinion on polygamy is.
37 posted on 12/16/2013 6:27:02 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Travis McGee

One of the main problems with polygamy is that you end up with a lot of “lost boys”. The old men drive the boys out so they can get their sisters.

Go out west some time. The fundamental mormons out there are causing all kinds of problems with this.


38 posted on 12/16/2013 6:28:20 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Thanks, I was wondering too. I used to love reading Greek mythology when I was younger, but I’ve forgotten most of it now.


39 posted on 12/16/2013 6:29:02 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Not quite. The Utah decision does not recognize, in Santorum’s words, a “right to polygamy.” The judge said the right to not be discriminated against under the First and Fourteenth amendments applies to the plaintiffs.

The family of Kody Brown, subject of the TLC reality show Sister Wives, says it is polygamist because it belongs to a fundamentalist Mormon church. The Browns sued Utah in 2011, arguing that the anti-polygamy law violated their right to privacy based on the Lawrence decision. Bigamy, or having multiple active marriage licenses, is a third-degree felony in Utah. Utah outlawed the practice, prevalent among Mormons, so Congress would accept it as a state in 1896. (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints banned polygamy in 1890.)

If Utah doesn’t prosecute an adulterer for sleeping with several women, the judge wrote, why should it prosecute a polygamist doing the same under one roof?

In other words, Utah polygamists can’t be discriminated against now, but they still can’t get married.”


40 posted on 12/16/2013 6:29:07 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: Rome2000

“Still trying to figure out why anybody cares what Rick Santorums opinion on polygamy is. “

He was way ahead on this issue and was ridiculed for what he said.


41 posted on 12/16/2013 6:30:36 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Rome2000

Nobody cares about the messenger, but the message is correct in this case.


42 posted on 12/16/2013 6:30:37 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: FewsOrange

Not yet, at least.


43 posted on 12/16/2013 6:31:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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Ridiculed by American communists and sex perverts, but stating the obvious hardly rises to anything astounding.

This douchebag endorsed Arlen Specter.

44 posted on 12/16/2013 6:36:21 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not against polygamy. Some of the people in the Bible had multiple wives. Myself, I can’t afford another wife, one is enough.


45 posted on 12/16/2013 6:57:01 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I have a feeling there will be a lot of men heading to the Philippines, Thailand, Ukraine and Russia the day after it’s legalized.


46 posted on 12/16/2013 7:00:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Rome2000

No, it’s not astounding, and yes, he remains a d-bag. I agree with this particular statement-how can I say otherwise when it’s the truth?-but that’s not an endorsement of Santorum. He just happens to be the one who said it in the thread to which I’m responding.

Satan knows that God exists and admits it. As a fundamentalist Christian, I hardly endorse Satan. But as to the existence of God, he is correct.


47 posted on 12/16/2013 7:02:09 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Rome2000

Let me add that it astounds me more that Satan admitted the existence of God, as he is the father of lies. But every knee must bow before God, even if it takes until judgement day.


48 posted on 12/16/2013 7:04:17 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SkyDancer

Wow... I recognized the Furies... and was actually thinking Orestes. They actually taught this stuff in my highschool once upon a time... just my memory is not what it ought to be.


49 posted on 12/16/2013 7:18:53 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: colorado tanker

Why would any sane woman want more than 1 husband? 2 husbands= twice the beer stains on the couch and when football season rolls around you’re a widow twice over!


50 posted on 12/16/2013 7:48:19 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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