Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 15 December 2013

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 15 December 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

December 15th, 2013

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.; Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America; Carlee Soto, whose sister was killed in the Newtown, Conn., shooting; former astronaut Mark Kelly, whose wife, ex-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, was shot in a 2011 attack.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Ryan; Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.; Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wis.; Michael Hayden, a former head of the CIA and National Security Agency.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Secretary of State John Kerry.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Secretary of State John Kerry.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, and Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

[TomGuy]

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Reichhhhhhhhh does a sneaky, says Republicans are against immigrants who come in undocumented.

[Yeah, Reichhhhhhh, that makes them ILLEGAL ALIENS! What is so difficult to understand about that concept?]

Female Panelist does see room for ‘a Christie or Jeb Bush’ in the GOP race, if 4 or 5 conservatives jump in and split the vote.

DING DING DING!

[We’ve known that since 2008!]

[TomGuy]

FNS

Ryan says the Pubbies need to win a few elections before they can make changes.

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Yeah, but that big-tent-Dem-lite hasn’t worked so well and you professional politicians keep dissing the conservative base/Tea Party faction.

That doesn’t seem to be such a winning strategy. If it were not for the Tea Party/conservatives of 2010, you wouldn’t even have a majority in the House.

[maica]

Another question for the pro-undocumented ‘new Americans’ (the name Gov O’Malley of MD uses):

Do you have locks on the doors to your home? Do you use them?

[chiller]

I have mixed emotions on this budget. If, IF, IF this deal avoids a shutdown and elects more Reps. and a majority of Senators it may well be the best tact.

We know it doesn't cut the budget, gives away some sequester cuts, moves real cuts to out years which are rarely enacted by future congress's. Is the potential gain worth it ? Are rumors that Boehner will step down related to this inter-party debate?

We know Reid will create trouble and try to create another shutdown (probably via extending unemployment benefits), because Pubbies have shown they will back down, so I'm sceptical. Flame away.

[Gritty]

I would rather watch grass grow than watch McCrazy and Turban.

But thankfully the Mandela Memorial Lovefest is over, especially as it turned out to be such a disaster everybody wants to forget about it.

[bray]

Perhaps the GOP would prefer the Tea Party left their “big tent”?

[TomGuy]

Are rumors that Boehner will step down related to this inter-party debate?

Paul Ryan Takes a Step Toward House Speakership

Friday, December 13, 2013 11:44:40 AM · by jimbo123 · 52 replies
National Journal ^ | 12/12/13 | Tim Alberta


Paul Ryan's presidential prospects may have dimmed this week, but his future on Capitol Hill has never looked brighter. The budget compromise he struck with Sen. Patty Murray, which passed the House on a lopsided 332-94 vote Thursday, had conservative activists and outside groups howling. That might one day curb Republican enthusiasm for Paul Ryan the presidential candidate. But inside the dome, overwhelming support for Paul Ryan the policymaker—even from those voting against his proposal—armed him with a major legislative victory and a reputation as a bipartisan consensus-builder. That means bigger things may be on the horizon. "Paul did astonishingly...

IIRC, Boehner announced earlier this week that he would be seeking reelection to his House seat.

[maica]

Interesting that Boehner seemed to have a phobia about microphones until he decided to bash Americans of conservative persuasion. He might as well have been a deaf mute for all the commentary we heard all during the past year.

[Cheerio]

Congressional Job Approval

Ryan cannot fix this anymore than Boner can. CONGRESS NO LONGER REPRESENTS "WE THE PEOPLE".

[lodi90]

I have mixed emotions on this budget. If, IF, IF this deal avoids a shutdown and elects more Reps. and a majority of Senators it may well be the best tact.

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The budget deal is the the Empire striking back. The GOPe has done nothing but double down on the tip toe to the election strategy since Cruz made them look like impotent buffoons. It is proof that they have no intention of engaging the Dems on anything of substance for the next 3 years. That being the case, how does electing more GOPers help?

[Bernard]

If Paul Ryan runs for Speaker, he might as well ask Newt for that couch that Newt and Nancy sat on during their bi-partisan PSA's. That way Ryan can look for the couch change he needs to fund his earth-shattering "budget" deal.

I once made a comment about people who ran for local village boards, fire districts, etc. = "You need small people to run small governments". Unfortunately we have small people running our country. How sad.

[kabar]

When is the DNC going to apologize to the American people for destroying the finest insurance industry the world has ever seen?

Finest insurance industry the world has ever seen? The healthcare insurance industry went all-in on Obamacare. They loved the idea of forcing people to buy their product and reducing the number of plans available. For them, it was shooting fish in a barrel. And the government guaranteed that they would suffer no losses thru "risk corridors."

I have no sympathy for the healthcare insurance industry. They spent tens of millions on propaganda supporting Obamacare. They sent contributions to the Obama election campaign. They are enablers who deserve everything they get. They are part of the crony capitalism that is destroying the country. With government (federal, state, and local) controlling over 40% of the GDP, is it any wonder that corporate America looks to government to determine winners and losers?

And the corporate elites have a symbiotic relationship with government. They get the contracts and in exchange, they provide the money to the political class. He who pays the piper, calls the tune.

The DNC is not destroying the insurance industry, the insurance industry is destroying the insurance industry. It has become politicized.

[Bernard]

Or was that Hillary that Newt shared a bench with? The memory is the second thing to go, and I don’t remember what goes first...

[chiller]

Please don't bust my dream. I suspect more TPers will be elected in both houses, despite Boehner or Rove types. They're a force now and will be stronger then.

Boehner may know that too, which is why immigration won't die. It'll have less chance after November.

[maica]

The Michael Hayden interview on MTP is worth watching/hearing.

[chiller]

.."the insurance industry is destroying the insurance industry. "

Given Sebellius' request/demand insurance companies extend policies at cost to the insurance companies, one must wonder what they've been promised and why they're not protesting. Obie has surely told them privately, "taxpayers will cover any losses you may incur."

So, yes, insurance companies are complicit. But do I want them shuttered ?....to make single payer inevitable ?

[kabar]

The female panelist is supposedly a Rep adviser. Newt also joins in saying that he believes that the Reps will pass immigration reform. They could care less that it will alienate a major part of the Rep base.

And why should we almost triple the intake of legal permanent immigrants over the next ten years, double the size of the guest worker program, and legalize the status of 11 to 20 million lawbreakers? We have over 20 million Americans unemployed or underemployed. How does importing tens of millions of immigrants help Americans find jobs? What is the impact on the social welfare system where immigrants, legal and illegal, use services to a far greater extent than the native born.

The GOPe is intent on political suicide. Throwing Obama a lifeline with immigration reform will ensure that they lose the 2014 midterms and divide the party to such an extent that a third party will emerge. In the meantime, Obama continues with his backdoor amnesty and creating his own immigration reform thru unconstitutional Executive Orders.

[rodguy911]

Great piece as usual. My biggest worry so far is that "0" care will become a forgotten memory nine or ten months from now when it really counts.

I fear we are being played again.

While all demoncrat numbers are down with the regime and zero care hitting a new low the sad thing is they only have one place to go and that's up.

Enter amnesty. Which boner has already said he will take up in the House. Sort of a self destruct measure for rinos, if he does will amnesty suck out all the oxygen for the 2014 elections if the dems time it right? If so we may have to kiss the Senate good bye..............

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I just watched the "bi-partisan meet" on MTP with dnc Dave. The mere thought of Paul Ryan giving in to Patty Murray yet another avowed socialist,is most disgusting.

Political strategy plays into this one as well. If Ryan does not make nice and become bi-partisan and let the dems off the no meeting with us hook/debacle they have had he looks bad. He will suffer in the partisan press and if he does let them off the hook we always lose like the 60 vote requirement for tax increases and all the good the sequester was doing.

He probably had to do it. He was sufficiently boxed in by the axelrod/DNC strategists. We lost the political strategy game once again.

is this the first time the dems have boxed us into a no win corner? Hell No and won't be the last.

Its all political strategy and we constantly lose.

[rodguy911]

Both Ryan and boner need to take several courses in political strategy before they go up against the dems again,we keep getting our asses kicked.

[kabar]

So, yes, insurance companies are complicit. But do I want them shuttered ?....to make single payer inevitable ?

Even under single payer, the insurance companies will thrive. Nine out of every 10 Medicare recipients have supplemental private insurance to cover costs that Medicare, a single payer system, does not cover.

The insurance companies are not going to be shuttered. And single payer is probably inevitable because the public will eventually demand it as Obamacare fails. With only 40% of doctors accepting Medicaid patients and more and more doctors not accepting Medicare patients, I can see a public outcry demanding that doctors and hospitals must accept all Medicare and Medicaid patients despite the low reimbursement rates. Just like the annual "Doc fix," the reimbursement rates will be raised and then we will go into single payer.