Skip to comments.Federal Judge: Mt. Soledad Cross Must Come Down
Posted on 12/12/2013 7:04:32 PM PST by annalex
A cross atop Mount Soledad in California is an unconstitutional religious display on government land and must come down, a federal judge in San Diego ruled late Thursday.
U.S. District Judge Larry Burns ordered the cross, which honors veterans, must be removed within 90 days -- a decision that could result in the case being sent back to the U.S. Supreme Court. Burns immediately stayed his order pending an expected appeal.
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I would like to puchase the 10X10 foot plot of land the cross is planted in.
Who is this prick Judge and who owns him? NSA much?
These sociaists are religious believers in marxism. Why do they get to step on federal land, much less get a federal paycheck for furthering their religion?
Oh and the hits keep on coming. Is there anybody that owns land near by that can put it on their private property? We really need to begin finding ways to surpenvent these stupid rulings. I never could understand why every Christian in every city/suburb, state, etc don’t put up a nativity set so that the only places that don’t have a nativity set is government buildings. It just gets more and more difficult to even want to live with all the crap going on. Sometimes I envy those who are in their 80’s. I don’t mean to be negative but after that horrid bill being passed and then this story and so many other stories today it just makes me really feel awful today. Not to worry, I will be fine but just so disgusted with the government today.
Judge rules that San Diego must change its name to Diego.
We have to be getting close to the time to start shooting.
We shouldn’t fight it, we should use it as a tool. Give them what they call “bad optics”. Hold a big live video stream. Dynamite it so it falls on its side into a pile of rubble.
Throughout the telecast, remind people of other wanton socialist extremist destruction. The Soviets and churches (now being rebuilt by Putin), the British and 1500 Country estate homes, the Taliban and the giant carved Buddha statues.
Leave the rubble in place and let it be called Democrat Mountain. Spread virally.
That is not the issue. Many people volunteered enough to buy out the entire park.It is not a property dispute but suppression of Christian symbols by the Federal government.
how many courts has this gone through??
when does it become “settled law of the land”?
Haven’t we been through this before?
Observe that satanic flames on graves are apparently just fine at the Arlington.
This fight has been going on for decades. LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE.
The cross that counts won’t ever be demolished. Its power extends to the ends of time.
But I’d say out of respect for the symbolic landmark, take it somewhere else if this Caesar will not cease from being asinine about it. The government ministers will be supernaturally cursed who lent their hands to this misguided mission.
That Cross always represented a “Welcome Home “for me when driving back from Northern Looneyville on the 405S. Friends live on that Mountain, Veterans all.
Eff this Judge and make it go Viral!
Since the Cross is still there, we haven't been through this enough times.
i heard a tale once that dint begin once upon a time but with WE THE PEOPLE so when some FEDERAL judge violates my WE by crossing MY CROSS I get crossed cause he just crossed me the WE
I hadn’t heard of that, is this speaking of eternal flame fixtures?
But as you have hinted, one dodge currently used by Caesar is to allow multiple faith monuments. I wouldn’t mind seeing a humongous menorah next to the Mt. Soledad cross if it came down to that.
I am confused. I thought this was the cross that there was a fight over which was on government property and a group was able to purchase that spot of land and keep the cross there. Or was that another one in California?
The curious thing, I bet, that most Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and even professed agnostics (and maybe even a fair chunk of private atheists) would say let the Cross be.
BS! Knock it off! Just because you are heathens who have no respect for others people’s religion/ideology/values you should just LEAVE US ALONE! We don’t push our ideology on you.........GO AWAY!
Well those people didn’t do what was needed to get those officious officials out of their posts. Instead, those people worshiped those officials. The good Lord gave them what they asked for, in hope that they would see the folly and renounce it later.
True. I am not sure. I am just going off on anything today quite frankly. Hopefully this is not settled law and some judge with reality will see what a farce this is.
When does the crescent go up?
You forgot the /s tag?
The cross indicates a tribute of thanks to a God who was willing to sacrifice Himself. The best act of giving that mankind could conceive. And other people just whine about it? Well the Bible says that they will. They’re trapped by the devil.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition their Government for a redress of grievances.
No where is there anything about separation of church and state like the communists keep saying there is. And if the people want to display and exercise their religious expression in public the government has NO RIGHT under the law to prevent it.The first Amendment just prohibits a national state church like the Church of England it then goes on to say the government isn’t allowed to interfere with religious expression.How a federal judge can get no religion in public,on public land or in public schools can only come out of his desires and ideology not through a plain reading of the amendment.It’s time we the people start showing them what these plainly written amendments say!
They get it every month courtesy of the moon.
Yes, the whole idea of “freedom from religion” is a modern conceit.
Here’s how to beat this. Take down the cross and erect an islamic crescent, then have a “plaintiff” file a lawsuit to have it removed. When the marxist judge says it’s okay, switch back the cross and cite said ruling as legal precedent. Make their heads explode.
Judge Larry Alan Burns, George W. Bush appointee
Sooner or later we’re going to have to start putting these judges on notice.
People in their area could easily refuse to do business with them and their family.
Oops, sorry judge, your car needs repair, but nobody in your town wants to do business with you. It is however your constitutional right to have it towed to the next state if you wish.
Food, clothing, church-school, church... sorry judge. We know you’re a swell guy, but get lost. We don’t need your kind.
On the same spot that is inacceptable as well. I have nothing against menorahs or moon crescents in their own spaces. National parks are not COEXIST bumper stickers.
Yes, an eternal flame on a grave is a clear symbol of satanism, objectively speaking.
That was back when we still lived in a free country. Now they took care of that as well. Check out what happened to a baker who would not sell to a gay couple.
Just a hunch; when we start getting rid of of those that keep bringing these problems; permanently.
I saw that. Isn’t that a hoot. You could still make it very uncomfortable for the guy. It’s not fun living in a community when you’re despised and folks are afraid to let you know it.
- stay strong
- grassy knoll is on the case
If eternal flames MUST be Satanic in your mind, it sounds like you are so caught up in red herrings you can’t see what is good. God claimed that symbol before the devil ever stepped up.
“The cross that counts wont ever be demolished. Its power extends to the ends of time.”
What would the jerks have done if he cross was classified as art?
Surround it with a jar of urine, of course!
“We have to be getting close to the time to start shooting.”
You have a good idea.
But I think that all that the conservatives will do is talk. I hope I’m wrong.
Is he going to demand that the Supreme Court be taken down also?
Silly judge. The Federal government has no jurisdiction over religious matters in the states. “CONGRESS shall make no law...” + 10th Amendment = Not your business.
this judge is an arse
they could always do a crap job for the judge.
This “judge” must be a fag. The powah has gone to his empty head. I’d like the fag to show us where in the Constitution he finds his freedom from religion nonsense.