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WOR ends an era in New York radio and officially kicks off the new coming war with rival WABC
New York Daily News ^ | December 9, 2013

Posted on 12/11/2013 5:09:45 PM PST by SMGFan

WOR announced its 2014 lineup Monday, a near-total makeover that moves Joan Hamburg to weekends and instead is built on afternoon institutions Rush Limbaugh, noon-3 p.m., and Sean Hannity, 3-6 p.m.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; wabc; wor
But at 6:05 PM I must turn to Mark Levin on WABC.
1 posted on 12/11/2013 5:09:45 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan
"Joey Reynolds" Used to be a R&R DJ in Buffalo.

WABC should bring back Cousin Brucie.

2 posted on 12/11/2013 5:12:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

send me money...for bumping this post...


3 posted on 12/11/2013 5:14:41 PM PST by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: ptsal
My relatives of Nigerian Royalty have some money they need to transfer out of the country....

Maybe you could help?....

4 posted on 12/11/2013 5:16:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SMGFan
I think I read that Rush is leaving KFI in LA for a small station.WOR is obviously a major NYC station but IIRC is ain't quite in the same league as WABC.And in LA he's gonna be on a minor station.He tried the same move in Boston a few years ago..left a major station and went to an unknown one.That station went belly up and he's back on the major station.
5 posted on 12/11/2013 5:31:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: ptsal

Mark Simone is a Pros Pro a great style, glad to hear he is just before Rush, he deserves a big break.


6 posted on 12/11/2013 5:32:18 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: SMGFan

Huh?
WOR has puny signal to the west of NYC, while WABC is booming into NY, NJ, PA, New England.
They both run 50 kW transmitters, but WABC is using omnidirectional single element vertical antenna covering large piece of land.
WOR is using 4 element directional array, beaming most of their power East, over the water, skirting Long Island S shore. Fish and boats will be pleased.
Stoooopid move, or part of gradual silencing of conservative talking dissent??? They replaced Glenn Beck with Whorealdo. Imus is boring in the morning.
At least Hannity is on SiriusXM, Rush refuses addition of satellites.


7 posted on 12/11/2013 5:41:28 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Paladin2
"Joey Reynolds" Used to be a R&R DJ in Buffalo. WABC should bring back Cousin Brucie.
I remember Joey Reynolds. He was on WNBC, before they switched to WFAN, then he had a show on WOR. Some time ago, every Memorial Day WABC Johnny Donovan would play some old airchecks from their Top-40 days. I put some of those broadcasts from 1964, Cousin Bruce, Scott Muni, Bob Lewis, Dan Ingram, on an MP3 and play them through the radio on my 64 Chevy at the local car shows. Listening to those old airchecks is like stepping through a time portal :)
8 posted on 12/11/2013 5:42:53 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

It is true Rush is going to K talk 1150 used to be Oldies station in SO CAL KRLA LOL!

They also broadcast LA Kings games


9 posted on 12/11/2013 5:44:44 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Leo Carpathian
WABC is booming into NY, NJ, PA, New England.
I remember the first time my parents drove to FL. We were listening to WABC as far south as Jacksonville. I've heard it said that one reason the "British invasion" music was so successful was that on a good night WABC's signal could be received in parts of the UK.
10 posted on 12/11/2013 5:45:39 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"I remember Joey Reynolds."

I've heard his talk show a couple of times. He's basically a lib, but not unlistenable.

11 posted on 12/11/2013 5:55:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Leo Carpathian
"WOR has puny signal to the west of NYC, while WABC is booming into NY, NJ, PA, New England."

I can pick up WABC on the DelMarVa peninsula to get Rush during the daytime.

12 posted on 12/11/2013 5:57:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SMGFan
WABC is a shadow of their former self. There was a time in New York City when they had the #1 rated show on the AM dial for every time slot from 5:00 AM through the evening. They had Curtis Sliwa in the morning, former NYC mayor Ed Koch leading up to noon, Rush Limbaugh from 12-3, Bob Grant from 3-7, and then Jay Diamond from 7 to midnight. Steve Malzberg was making his way onto the dial on the overnight shift, too.

Those were the days when John Mainelli was the program director at WABC, and that may have been the best lineup on any talk radio station -- ever.

13 posted on 12/11/2013 6:08:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Zenjitsuman

I was never a big Mark Simone fan, but after listening to him during odd weekend shifts for several years I determined that he may have the best voice I’ve ever heard on the radio. A “Pro’s Pro” is a good description of him. That guy was born to do radio.


14 posted on 12/11/2013 6:10:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Leo Carpathian
I gotta give Don Imus credit for one of the best quotes about the NYC radio market I've heard. He was describing the changes in the radio lineups and the changing of the guard at WOR, and he just had to take a potshot at the Gambling dynasty at WOR:

"I remember when the old man was on the air here in New York. He used to get the best ratings in New York City reading the school closings during the winter!"

LOL.

15 posted on 12/11/2013 6:13:46 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SMGFan

at least i won’t have to listen to the nauseating Final Trim commercials anymore.


16 posted on 12/11/2013 6:15:43 PM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Those directional antenna arrays were laid down back when the stations first went on the air. A limited number of AM frequencies, plus US and Canadian clear channels, made for a tough radio assignment.
17 posted on 12/11/2013 6:17:48 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: SMGFan

Bye Bye Joanie. Nice lady but totally clueless.


18 posted on 12/11/2013 6:21:17 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: SMGFan

However, see this, from NY Daily News, below. This will interrupt many of Rush’s and Hannity’s shows:

“The Mets will be heard on WOR 710 AM starting this upcoming season, the team announced Monday. The station will broadcast spring training, regular-season and (ahem) postseason games, as well as the pre- and post-game shows.”


19 posted on 12/11/2013 6:25:04 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Salvey

I remember when Yankees on occassion would pre empted Rush & Sean. But now you can hear Rush by other sources besides WOR.


20 posted on 12/11/2013 6:27:03 PM PST by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I think I read that Rush is leaving KFI in LA for a small station.WOR is obviously a major NYC station but IIRC is ain't quite in the same league as WABC.And in LA he's gonna be on a minor station.He tried the same move in Boston a few years ago..left a major station and went to an unknown one.That station went belly up and he's back on the major station.

Limbaugh is going to KTLK, a 50,000 Watt station. I wouldn't call an LA station you can pick up in Phoenix a "minor station." Brush up.

21 posted on 12/11/2013 6:34:01 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Leo Carpathian

I pick up WABC 770 in Charlotte!

And south of Charlotte, too, like Parris ISland!

Seriously! Listened to Mark Levin a month ago on a trip there


22 posted on 12/11/2013 6:42:57 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Leo Carpathian
If it means anything...I have always been able to get 710 better than 770 in Cherry Hill, NJ. (Directly east of Philly) However, as the years go on, that signal is getting fainter, and also more polluted with noise.

I can see a relaxation in RF interference regulation for electronics, and maybe something sinister in all those solar panels that popped up in the state of NJ a2-3 years ago to purposely hurt reception, although I have no proof of this.

23 posted on 12/11/2013 10:25:40 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Alberta's Child

He’s good. He seems to know everyone, too. Hey, Jerry, what’s new? What’s up Regis, how’s Joy doing? I think in the end WABC misused him.


24 posted on 12/11/2013 10:28:20 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: hecht
at least i won’t have to listen to the nauseating Final Trim commercials anymore.

What about Kars for Kids?

25 posted on 12/11/2013 10:29:11 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: RaceBannon

Only on FR is a radio host moving to a 50KW station considered a move to a “puny” station.


26 posted on 12/12/2013 5:03:31 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Impala64ssa

Here’s a site with scores of airchecks:

http://www.musicradio77.com/

(I re-live my adolescence listening to these!)

Enjoy!


27 posted on 12/12/2013 5:15:08 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Cyber Liberty

50Kw is the limit, too, they aren’t allowed to go higher in power transmission :)


28 posted on 12/12/2013 5:26:02 AM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon

For AM, yes. “Clear channel” stations (not to be confused with Clear Channel Communications, the company). KTLK, Limbaugh’s new home in LA, is 50KW and reaches Phoenix at night. Guy upthread said he was going to a “minor station.” Proof one doesn’t need to know the first thing about something to talk about it (I do that myself sometimes so I can’t be too hard on him).


29 posted on 12/12/2013 5:32:01 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Limbaugh is going to KTLK, a 50,000 Watt station. I wouldn't call an LA station you can pick up in Phoenix a "minor station." Brush up.

By "small" I'm thinking more along the lines of listenership.Just because a station can be picked up 200 miles away (presumably at night) doesn't mean that anyone that far away is listening.In fact,it doesn't mean anyone 15 miles away is listening.My understanding is that this station has a history of comparatively sparse listenership.If I'm correct in that belief that qualifies the station,IMO,as being "small".Of course when Rush arrives their listenership,at least from 0900 to 1200 Mon-Fri will be respectable...if not enormous.

30 posted on 12/12/2013 5:46:22 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Again, brush up. Phoenix isn’t 200 miles from LA.

In a large market talkie, listenership is more about who is on than how powerful the station is. A station is “big” because limbaugh is on it, so KTLK is not going to have small listenership for long. I’m sure he’ll be a better draw than the Air America remnants he replaces.

But to call a 50KW clear channel station “minor” or “small” is just plain ignorant. They are the giants out there in flyover country.


31 posted on 12/12/2013 5:54:50 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
A station is “big” because limbaugh is on it, so KTLK is not going to have small listenership for long.

There's at least one recent case where that hasn't been true.A few years ago Rush switched from a top Boston station (tops in terms of listenership/ratings) to a basically unknown station.IIRC that station had recently been acquired by Rush's syndicator.It also signed at least one other big name (Hannity?) at the same time.Those two big names lasted about two years on the new station before it went belly up...it's now playing looped comedy tracks 24/7.Rush is back on that original top station.Boston certainly isn't as big a market as LA of course but it is a major market (#7 in the nation IIRC).

32 posted on 12/12/2013 6:06:30 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I can understand how one can get the impression a 50KW AM radio station is “minor” because Stephanie Miller is on it. ;^)

When you’re out in the sticks of Riverside County, the 50KW matters a lot.


33 posted on 12/12/2013 6:15:05 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Did not Rush moved to the “Howie Carr” station, WRKO?

I have heard that WRKO begins to “fade out” come nightfall from Mr. Carr.


34 posted on 12/12/2013 6:31:57 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

WRKO has to push their signal north and south at night to protect other stations in places like Toronto, Binghamton, Baltimore, and Charlotte. Howie jokes about not being heard much further west than Kenmore Sq. Boston. But a few years ago I was driving around to the NW of Boston on ML King Day; WRKO had a Celtics game and Howie (on his own flagship) wasn’t on till 5:30 or so. I was able to get Howie on a station from Fitchburg MA
but that faded as I started to get closer to Boston. Howie’s
Worcester affiliate WCRN 830 wasn’t carrying him yet.

But it was true—I could barely hear WRKO to the NW
as it started to get dark.

It probably won’t happen, but if WRKO simulcast on a powerful FM it would help. It did happen one time though—
on Apr 15, the day of the Boston bombings, sister station
WEEI 93.7 with a powerful signal simulcast WRKO/Howie (and at 7 pm Jeff Kuhner came in).

Anyway, yes, WRKO’s problems at night. People can hear it via smartphone apps like TuneIn.


35 posted on 12/12/2013 6:41:59 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Cyber Liberty
Libs have been saying "no wonder we don't get good ratings on KTLK because the signal isn't as good as KFI". Once the news broke about the move: "ha, Rush is going to a station you can't get in their parking lot..." Well here are the signal patterns--approx.--for Rush's new home KTLK 1150, which will indeed cover a lot of people...

Day

Night

He may have other affiliates in surrounding areas...well Rush is on 9-noon out there anyway, but I showed both charts just in case

36 posted on 12/12/2013 6:45:17 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Biggirl
Did not Rush moved to the “Howie Carr” station, WRKO?I have heard that WRKO begins to “fade out” come nightfall from Mr. Carr.

Yes,it was WRKO and,yes,you're partially correct on the fadeout issue.In a nutshell the fadeout issue goes like this...between sundown and sunup WRKO is required to reduce their power as are,IIRC,many other AM stations.My understanding is that during this reduced power broadcasting their signal still comes in gangbusters north and south of the city.It's my understanding that RKO comes in gangbusters at night in Maine and on Cape Cod.The problem is that the most heavily populated suburbs of Boston are located *west* of the city.For me,being not too far west of Boston (certainly a lot closer than is Maine),RKO is useless to me after sundown.But I listen on the internet so it isn't an issue with me.Also,he's syndicated on a number of New England stations including one in Central Massachusetts.

37 posted on 12/12/2013 6:46:51 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

And by day WRKO has a great signal, etc.

Here’s what happened:Clear Channel picked up WKOX AM 1200 and WXKS AM 1430. In Oct of 04 they put progressive talk on both, and that lasted 2 years and 2 months. Dec of 2006, they both go to Spanish language stuff. March of 2010, they debut “Rush Radio 1200”—with call letters of WXKS (AM); AM 1430 becomes WKOX and stays Spanish—with an improved signal on 1200, morning host Jeff Katz and afternoon host Jay Severin, etc. It did so-so in ratings.

Finally the word came that they decided to stop what was then “Talk 1200” —Rush and Coast to Coast went back to RKO,
and a temp format of political gaffes ran followed by all-comedy. Then Bloomberg decided to buy time on 1200 so they are now business radio. The 1200 signal isn’t too bad in some locations, by day at least.

As for prog talk a guy named Jeff Santos bought time on AM 1510 but that fell apart (I guess Boston liberals still can hear it via NPR!) As of now in Blue New England, prog talk commercial stations are only in Western MA, Brattleboro VT,
a small FM in Concord NH, and Bangor ME (horrors! owned by Stephen King). Boston, nope. It don’t work....


38 posted on 12/12/2013 6:51:07 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes and in addition near sunset in some places like where I am in Beverly (E of the antenna in Burlington) yeah it comes in OK but you hear the other stations mixing with it in the background. Especially this time of year.


39 posted on 12/12/2013 6:53:19 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Zenjitsuman

He has friends like Joy Behar.


40 posted on 12/12/2013 6:53:32 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Paladin2

The Cuz is on Sirius XM satellite radio, 60s on 6


41 posted on 12/12/2013 6:53:57 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yet, in my home state, CT, WTIC AM stays high power, 50,000 wattage, flamethrower power station, all the time, 24/7. Maybe only when fromt time to time, during the spring/summer, when their tower has to be worked on, say on a Saturday or Sunday night, going into the overnight, and thus they annouce it as well, they go off for a couple of hours. But that is it.


42 posted on 12/12/2013 6:57:40 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Part of all this is because of Cumulus/Clear Channel (the latter has Premiere Radio syndication). Cumulus has their own stable of hosts; Geraldo is going NYC only but he was with them. Dennis Miller is moving from 10a-1p to noon to 3,
and Huckabee is going off.

http://adsales.cumulusmedianetworks.com/tag/News%20and%20Talk
Mark Levin, Savage,Imus (it says Huckabee & Geraldo but again they’ll be gone, other than Geraldo locally in NY)

Premiere
http://premiereradio.com/category/view/talk.html
Coast to Coast, Rush, Hannity, Beck, liberal Randi Rhodes

Cumulus: WABC 770
Clear Channel: WOR 710


43 posted on 12/12/2013 6:58:16 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Biggirl

Have picked up WTIC when traveling in Ohio, etc. I have
XM radio in my own car (and cellphone) if I need Red Sox,
etc. but if I’m in a rental without sat. radio and I’m
out there, WTIC comes in handy.


44 posted on 12/12/2013 6:59:37 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

WOW!


45 posted on 12/12/2013 7:08:11 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: raccoonradio

Pretty cool. What’s the pattern for KFI?


46 posted on 12/12/2013 7:34:06 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Captainpaintball

Kars for Kids seem to be everywhere unlike the crap Final Trim or its clone AF plus


47 posted on 12/12/2013 8:20:59 PM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: hecht; All

Elliot in the Morning apparently didn’t last long at WOR. No mention of him/his show on WOR site and Mark Simone was apparently in this morning. Radio boards are saying apparently the Elliot show didn’t work out...some wonder if Scott Shannon will do show? Or who knows who else


48 posted on 02/18/2014 7:00:39 AM PST by raccoonradio
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