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More than 100,000 protesters march in Ukraine over refusal to sign EU agreeement
FOX ^ | December 1, 2013 | AP

Posted on 12/01/2013 9:43:25 AM PST by 1rudeboy

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Don't these silly Ukrainians understand that Vladi Putin only has their best interests at heart?
1 posted on 12/01/2013 9:43:25 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Didn’t Samuel Huntington predict this long ago? In his book “Clash of Civilizations”, 1996, one of the fault lines he identified was in Ukraine, between the Orthodox eastern part and the Catholic western part.


2 posted on 12/01/2013 9:57:32 AM PST by omega4412
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I was across Kreschatik street from the protesters early Monday evening when they were beginning to assemble. I didn’t get any closer to them, because I had flights to the US to catch early on Tuesday morning, and I didn’t want to potentially be detained and miss my flight.


3 posted on 12/01/2013 10:23:26 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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Many obviously want their bank accounts plundered, ala Cyprus. Ukraine is better off in Moscow’s sphere than in that of Brussels.


4 posted on 12/01/2013 11:08:28 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Oh, please elaborate.


5 posted on 12/01/2013 11:10:28 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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The EU needs another weak country to plunder from, usually by aiding left wing radicals into the government and extorting huge membership fees. Ukraine will be forced to follow social engineering dictates from the communists in Brussels, and by the end, will be so weak they won’t even have the authority to deport terrorists from their own country without going through the EU’s kangaroo courts.

With the way things are going, I’d rather be in close trading ties with Russia than the ponzi scheme of the EU. Russia has resources. The EU just has bureaucrats and scumbag journalists.


6 posted on 12/01/2013 11:19:29 AM PST by Viennacon
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Well, if you look at it that way . . . it might be better to have a single mafia thug dictate to you, and threaten to cut off your heat if you don’t do as he says. Oh, wait, the EU hasn’t learned that method yet.


7 posted on 12/01/2013 11:28:02 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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The EU needs another weak country to plunder from

Which weak countries have they plundered from before? Any numbers to back up your claim?

usually by aiding left wing radicals into the government and extorting huge membership fees.

Membership fees? How much? Link?

8 posted on 12/01/2013 11:34:55 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Don’t these silly Ukrainians understand that the EU only has their best interests at heart?


9 posted on 12/01/2013 11:56:49 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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Exactly! Putin is anti-homo! He builds churches by hand!


10 posted on 12/01/2013 12:05:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-18/banking-crisis-unfolding-in-cyprus/4578536

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9609984/Britain-facing-new-1.5-billion-bill-to-pay-for-Brussels-pay-and-perks.html


11 posted on 12/01/2013 12:13:00 PM PST by Viennacon
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These people are nuts if they believe that the EU will bring them anything other than destitution and sorrow. This whole movement was probably started and funded by the EU in the first place.


12 posted on 12/01/2013 12:52:07 PM PST by Revel
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Whatever happened to understanding the value of national sovereignty?


13 posted on 12/01/2013 12:53:48 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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Their alternative is the Russian mafia-state. How would you choose? Bear in mind that the EU has never forcibly occupied the Ukraine.


14 posted on 12/01/2013 12:55:09 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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That is an excellent question to forward to the Kremlin.
15 posted on 12/01/2013 12:59:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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He should send some tanks in to convince them.


16 posted on 12/01/2013 1:31:50 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Thanks for the links.

Do you have any that actually back up your previous claims?

17 posted on 12/01/2013 1:57:16 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Which weak countries have they plundered from before?

Basically the banks in the rich European countries are first in line for payment from the poor European countries. The alternatives of inflation or default are not allowed It's a form of plunder. Of course the poor European countries deserve their share of the blame for signing up in the first place. But not everyone wants the cheaper trinkets and short term stimulus that switching to Euros brings.

The Toddsterpatriots in European satellite countries realize that the best strategy is to maintain their own currency and float it lower to stimulate exports, rather than inxreasing imports, consumption and partying in the short run.

18 posted on 12/01/2013 2:38:46 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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Basically the banks in the rich European countries are first in line for payment from the poor European countries.

Which banks are you talking about? The ones who loaned the money?

19 posted on 12/01/2013 3:40:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3097162/posts


20 posted on 12/01/2013 3:45:05 PM PST by Revel
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