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Faster Than the Speed of Light?
The New York Times ^ | July 22, 2013 | Danny Hakim

Posted on 11/29/2013 7:58:18 PM PST by Star Traveler

HOUSTON — Beyond the security gate at the Johnson Space Center’s 1960s-era campus here, inside a two-story glass and concrete building with winding corridors, there is a floating laboratory.

Harold G. White, a physicist and advanced propulsion engineer at NASA, beckoned toward a table full of equipment there on a recent afternoon: a laser, a camera, some small mirrors, a ring made of ceramic capacitors and a few other objects.

He and other NASA engineers have been designing and redesigning these instruments, with the goal of using them to slightly warp the trajectory of a photon, changing the distance it travels in a certain area, and then observing the change with a device called an interferometer. So sensitive is their measuring equipment that it was picking up myriad earthly vibrations, including people walking nearby. So they recently moved into this lab, which floats atop a system of underground pneumatic piers, freeing it from seismic disturbances.

The team is trying to determine whether faster-than-light travel — warp drive — might someday be possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; alcubierredrive; astronomy; aviation; fasterthanlight; ftl; haroldgwhite; haroldsonnywhite; houston; interstellarflight; nasa; space; speedoflight; stars; stringtheory; warpdrive; xplanets
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Fat chance ... :-)
1 posted on 11/29/2013 7:58:19 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Perhaps, but such research is worthwhile if it could translate to the proliferation of our species across the galaxy.


2 posted on 11/29/2013 8:01:30 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Star Traveler

” Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space. “ - H2G2


3 posted on 11/29/2013 8:07:16 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Star Traveler

No space travel because we don’t have enough fuel.


4 posted on 11/29/2013 8:09:27 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Star Traveler
Re: Fat chance

Make it... so!

http://kenleykristofferson.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/captain-picard-1.jpg

5 posted on 11/29/2013 8:10:37 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: ctdonath2

What a great flick.


6 posted on 11/29/2013 8:10:43 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Star Traveler

Can the US even send an human into orbit anymore?


7 posted on 11/29/2013 8:10:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: ctdonath2

Classic.


8 posted on 11/29/2013 8:11:01 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sickoflibs

NASA now teaches the astronauts how to properly stick out their thumb and “hitch a ride” from the Russians ... LOL ...


9 posted on 11/29/2013 8:14:20 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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10 posted on 11/29/2013 8:15:51 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Star Traveler

How much faster than the speed of light.. ?
And once you’ve measured it..

How can you be sure you’ve not been injected with...
BULL SPERM..


11 posted on 11/29/2013 8:23:22 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Star Traveler

I guess it it will be a while before we send a spaceship out to space at near the speed of light as in the original 1968 movie Planet of the Apes, as we gave up on sending men into orbit.

We got better investments for our $$$.
Afghanistan and Obamacare.


12 posted on 11/29/2013 8:32:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Pox

Hope it’s ready before obozo f**ks up the entire earth. He’s nearly done with the United States.


13 posted on 11/29/2013 8:36:11 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: sickoflibs
Can the US even send an human into orbit anymore?

If there were an emergency we could probably do it in a matter of weeks. Within the next couple of years we'll have more man-launching capability than we've ever had.

14 posted on 11/29/2013 8:40:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Star Traveler

I can think of one thing that is traveling at twice the speed of light.


15 posted on 11/29/2013 8:43:25 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Ummm ... you must be referring to the increase in our National Debt!


16 posted on 11/29/2013 8:44:52 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: sickoflibs

Yep, I say just go do it. Maybe offer a prize for the first manmade vehicle to exceed 1/10 the speed of light! If mass increases with velocity, then those propellants ejected will have more impulse as well, or so it seems to me.


17 posted on 11/29/2013 8:47:49 PM PST by Errant
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To: Star Traveler

I thought NASA’s job these days was to emphasize the contributions of Islam to science.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 8:54:50 PM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Rocky

What a DORK Obama is. I’ll sure be glad when he’s gone. I’m thinking that a special t-shirt would be in order for that time ... saying ... “I survived Obama!”


19 posted on 11/29/2013 8:58:30 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
the only thing i know of faster than the speed of light, is stooopid... stooopid is faster that anything known or imagined
20 posted on 11/29/2013 9:04:29 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

True true.


21 posted on 11/29/2013 9:07:53 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Star Traveler

Didn’t the French do this exact same thing seven or eight years ago to show that paired photons remain quantum-bound even if they travel different distances? They produce the same interference pattern as paired photons which arrive at the same time.

Why would we be spending all this money to show the French were right?


22 posted on 11/29/2013 9:10:37 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Star Traveler

Don’t put any money into it until we see whether he actually DOES go away in January 2017.

As slick as the ‘rats changed the senate rules recently, I’ll be surprised if they don’t change some more and if he isn’t declared President in perpetuity and NEVER leaves.


23 posted on 11/29/2013 9:15:26 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
stooopid travels at Ludicrous speed...
24 posted on 11/29/2013 9:17:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Star Traveler

So, If we already know the speed of light…What then is the speed of darkness?


25 posted on 11/29/2013 9:23:05 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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To: FDNYRHEROES

dat’s racist!


27 posted on 11/29/2013 9:33:28 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: sickoflibs

It will happen—but it might take another 300 years.


28 posted on 11/29/2013 9:34:32 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: cloudmountain
Bussard Ramjet.
29 posted on 11/29/2013 9:35:28 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
RE :”It will happen—but it might take another 300 years.”

Wanna bet ? Three hundred years from today....

30 posted on 11/29/2013 9:36:37 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: VanShuyten

Spooky action at a distance.


31 posted on 11/29/2013 9:39:56 PM PST by Slicksadick (We accept the love we think we deserve.)
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To: Star Traveler

No dilithium crystal?


32 posted on 11/29/2013 9:52:12 PM PST by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: sickoflibs
Can the US even send an human into orbit anymore?

Look up 'Falcon 9'.

33 posted on 11/29/2013 10:24:28 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: sickoflibs
" Can the US even send an human into orbit anymore? "
Yes, a ride on the debt bounce.
34 posted on 11/30/2013 12:39:03 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Chode

“Nothing travels faster than the speed of light except for bad news which obeys rules of it own”
Douglas Adams


35 posted on 11/30/2013 1:51:44 AM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Star Traveler

NASA’s budget had been cut to the bone, then Sequestration cut it even further. We do not pursue greatness through research or space exploration any longer. Americans worship at the altar of Medicaid, Food Stamps, Social Security Disability, Medicare, ObamaCare, EITC cash refunds, Section 8 housing vouchers, TANF Welfare, and Unemployment checks.


36 posted on 11/30/2013 3:04:25 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Pox

“Perhaps, but such research is worthwhile if it could translate to the proliferation of our species across the galaxy.”

Humans as we know them will never live unprotected on another world. We developed and live in a soup of microorganisms. Our defenses were evolved to allow us to survive in THAT soup. Add one new organism to that soup and our defenses will not recognize it in time to stop it from giving us terminal Vegan Foot Rot.


37 posted on 11/30/2013 3:14:58 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: SkyPilot

Can’t have anything that shows American Exceptionalism.


38 posted on 11/30/2013 3:54:12 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Star Traveler

Space is a convenient word used for the absence of things. Space is not something. Space can not be expanded.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 3:58:47 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Star Traveler
I had heard that NASA’s prime mission had become to prove global warming through Muslim outreach.
40 posted on 11/30/2013 4:17:22 AM PST by Hiryusan
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To: Lurker

It was bloody awful compared to the 1980s UK TV series.


41 posted on 11/30/2013 4:30:46 AM PST by skepsel
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To: Star Traveler

Go for it dude.


42 posted on 11/30/2013 5:12:03 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Star Traveler

Your inner luddite is showing, my friend.


43 posted on 11/30/2013 6:01:11 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: fella
"Look up 'Falcon 9'".

Incorrect answer/response.

Correct answer is 'NO', or 'not now, but probably in near future'.

44 posted on 11/30/2013 6:18:32 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Toddsterpatriot
From the Internet:
The Bussard ramjet is a theoretical method of spacecraft propulsion proposed in 1960 by the physicist Robert W. Bussard, popularized by Poul Anderson's novel Tau Zero, Larry Niven in his Known Space series of books, Vernor Vinge in his Zones of Thought series, and referred to by Carl Sagan in the television series and book Cosmos.
Bussard proposed a ramjet variant of a fusion rocket capable of reasonable interstellar spaceflight, using enormous electromagnetic fields (ranging from kilometers to many thousands of kilometers in diameter) as a ram scoop to collect and compress hydrogen from the interstellar medium. High speeds force the reactive mass into a progressively constricted magnetic field, compressing it until thermonuclear fusion occurs. The magnetic field then directs the energy as rocket exhaust opposite to the intended direction of travel, thereby accelerating the vessel.

Hmmm, all moot for us folks today, but MOST interesting to read about. Thanks for posting.

45 posted on 11/30/2013 6:21:12 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Star Traveler

Actually, I was referring to the expansion of the universe. It travels at the speed of light in opposite directions, so it is expanding at twice the speed of light.


46 posted on 11/30/2013 6:24:37 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Star Traveler

“Shrodinger’s Kittens” is a good layman’s book about the history and issues of weird wacky world of quantum physics. The micro realms don’t play by the same rules that we do.


47 posted on 11/30/2013 7:43:17 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Fai Mao
pretty much...
48 posted on 11/30/2013 7:44:34 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Star Traveler

If we had fusion power, we would soon have a drag strip for test vehicles that would be several light years long and a half light year across. Then maybe we could do the measurement that these scientists are attempting. You need a big space lab to do these things.

But who is holding their breath, with the rastas crowd controlling the White Hut of the United States of Zimbabwe?
They be too busy pimping their superior equality to bother.


49 posted on 11/30/2013 8:04:48 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: FDNYRHEROES
The speed of dark is slightly faster then the speed of light.

When you turn on a light the dark has to run faster then light to keep ahead of it.

50 posted on 11/30/2013 8:11:58 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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