Posted on 11/28/2013 9:45:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps
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China has sent warplanes to its newly declared air defence zone in the East China Sea, state media reports.
The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
China has said all planes transiting the zone must file flight plans and identify themselves, or face "defensive emergency measures".
But Japan, South Korea and the US have all since flown military aircraft through the area.
The new dispute in an already tense region has raised concerns it could escalate into an unplanned military incident.
China's state news agency Xinhua quoted air force spokesman Col Shen Jinke as saying several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft had been deployed to carry out routine patrols as "a defensive measure and in line with international common practices".
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China is a day late and we’re a dollar short.
oy vey, and with the new rules of engagement?
Boy would I like to see the legions of guardian angels surrounding our carrier groups! come to think of it, I wonder who gets the underwater detail. Flaming power of God underwater, cool image.
interesting wake.
Remember: Biden is scheduled for a big Asian trip next week.
The timing of all this is meant to be provocative.
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Looks like China upped the ante.
Yesterday Obama sent 2 jets.
China responds by sending several fighter jets and an early warning aircraft.
This would be more like the border clashes China has had with the Soviets, India and Vietnam rather than WWII. I expect it wouldn't escalate to the level of the Korean War, since these would be air and naval clashes. It's a chance for the Chinese to blood their air and naval assets while giving us the opportunity to find out just how well they've copied our technology, and whether they've come up with creative variations we hadn't thought of. Once you look at the map at the BBC link, it's clear this is the kind of massive land grab by a great power that we thought had gone out of style after WWII. History isn't dead - it was just slumbering.
So if WW3 starts with China...do we have to pay them back?
A couple serious questions.
1. Do we have anti aircraft missiles which can be launched from a submerged submarine, and
2. Is the Nike Hercules still deployed on Okinawa?
Thanks
No ... after we bomb them into oblivion - then we’ll I have a “Marshall Plan” for China.
No.
In the course of WWII, we seized German patents and property stateside, so it's possible we'd zero out their Treasury bond holdings, once we discovered that the identity of the ultimate holders was the Chinese government.
Can we please bring back manufacturing to America, and stop building up the world’s most populous nation?
This isn’t new. China likes to do this kind of thing every so often. Asians love skirmishing.
See the Hainan Island Incident for the last time they got silly.
Government bonds are a special case. Even during the age of monarchs, kingdoms sought to avoid stiffing their creditors because that would affect their future ability to borrow. The thinking among lenders seems to be that if you renege for one reason, you'll renege for any reason.
1. Yes but it is a prototype.
2. No.
At one little-known juncture the PRC evenClaimed that OKINAWA also rightly belongs to China. That one really, really surprised me.
Chinese territorial expansion has involved continually annexing border states. It starts with a tributary state relationship, and the imposition of puppet rulers and ends with an invasion, when the puppet ruler decides he's not China's plaything. When successful, these invasions result in new provinces. We tend to assume that the Chinese are playing by the rules set by Western experiences up to and including WWII. I think they've been playing by Chinese rules all along, and have merely been biding their time. And the principal Chinese rule is that he who has the muscle makes the rules or as Thucydides put it: "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Just because you've been nice to the dragon doesn't mean the dragon will respond in kind.
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