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Seattle City Councilmember-elect shares radical idea with Boeing workers
KIROTV ^ | 11/19/13 | Gary Horcher

Posted on 11/19/2013 2:54:09 PM PST by Baynative

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To: zeestephen

I work for an airport transportation company that does 80-90% of it’s business in SeaTac. Here’s the deal:

The last I saw, SeaTac Prop 1 was passing by 43 votes. That may have changed, but it’s still on the passing side. There have been lawsuits filed against Prop 1 saying it’s unconstitutional. I am not sure of the status of those lawsuits.

The company I work for has about 6 or 8 people that actually work at SeaTac Airport and would most certainly be covered by the law, should it come to pass. The thing that we’re concerned about are the drivers for our company. What we’re looking at is if the time they spend at the airport qualifies them as “SeaTac workers” who are covered by this rule. If they are, we have a BIG problem. You see...we have over 150 of them. 150 people, getting a 65% jump in pay.

Can you say “bankrupt”?

I’m one of the office workers (the main office we operate out of is not located at SeaTac, but in a city about 4 miles away). You can guarantee that some of us will lose our jobs in an attempt (should this abomination pass and stand) to keep the company going....but it probably will not work.

America can now watch and (hopefully) learn as they get an object lesson in economics from this. If they pay attention, I can guarantee that what they see will NOT be pretty.


121 posted on 11/20/2013 7:35:11 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Billthedrill
Her hubby works at Microsoft. I'm waiting to see if she demands taking over that profit making machine, too.
122 posted on 11/20/2013 8:46:12 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: Baynative
Interesting. You'd think she'd know better but wait, she's a college professor, isn't she?

Nevertheless, someone who wants worker takeover of the means of production isn't a socialist, she's a full-blown Communist.

123 posted on 11/20/2013 8:49:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SkyDancer

Well I certainly hope that is the case. I have had several union vendors that had some very bad quality problems resulting from work reduction of eminent closure.

The get back at the company by screwing things up.

You mentioned inspectors. Are they not union as well? Are there jobs not also at risk?


124 posted on 11/20/2013 8:58:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Billthedrill

Also interesting is that she attracted a lot of admirers in Seattle by promoting the takeover of Boeing which is located in Renton and Everett.


125 posted on 11/20/2013 9:01:12 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: bert

Not sure re: Boeing inspectors being union. But there are FAA inspectors and also costumer inspectors that monitor the assembly from beginning to end. Then too there’s flight test. It’s not unusual to have several hundred hours of flight test before the customer accepts the plane. Then they do their own flight testing.


126 posted on 11/20/2013 9:04:53 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 21twelve
A great idea though - to go from making planes to metro buses. Probably only take a week or so to rearrange things.

Yep. Just leave off the wings and tail assembly and put in a steering wheel. Eassssssy as pie.

Aerospace industry has a slow down, Boeing can just start cranking out buses, schoolbuses, RV's, campers....

127 posted on 11/20/2013 9:06:46 AM PST by N. Theknow (Defund, Abolish, Repeal ObamaCare. You cannot fix stupid. You cannot repair incompetence.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Yeah, workers of Seattle unite! Ask the government to seize the Boeing plants by eminent domain!

Cause, you know, like, Boeing didn't build that!

128 posted on 11/20/2013 9:14:17 AM PST by N. Theknow (Defund, Abolish, Repeal ObamaCare. You cannot fix stupid. You cannot repair incompetence.)
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To: Baynative
“We can re-tool the machines to produce mass transit like buses, instead of destructive, you know, war machines,”


129 posted on 11/20/2013 9:23:40 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Steve_Seattle
Going west from Seattle takes a long time - you either need to take a ferry or drive way south around Puget Sound.

Half an hour to Kingston, an hour to Bremerton.

130 posted on 11/20/2013 11:11:35 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: hoagy62

Thanks - excellent update.


131 posted on 11/20/2013 12:12:48 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: jimt
"Half an hour to Kingston, an hour to Bremerton."

I don't know where the person who originally made the "three-hour drive" comment lives, but it is clearly not Bremerton or Kingston. It sounds like the person lives somewhere on the coast - somewhere from Ocean Shores/Aberdeen (south) to Neah Bay (north), which would be a three or four hour drive from Seattle, depending on the traffic and/or the ferry wait.
132 posted on 11/20/2013 3:04:29 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Vince Ferrer
"The Michoud assembly plant in New Orleans used to maunfacture the external space shuttle tanks."

That is a great idea, however NASA owns Michoud, and King Obama would never sell it to be used by the evil capitalists.

133 posted on 11/20/2013 4:02:27 PM PST by magellan
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To: cashless

Can’t blame Boeing on this. Remember when Boeing wanted to open a new production facility in South Carolina to help build the 787, to increase production rates? This new facility is to basically double the production rate to help match delivery schedules. Not only did the unions raise heck but the obama-thugs in the NLRB sided with the unions.

You have unions stacked against them along with the power of the federal government and Boeing had to be careful how they handle this.

They punted, in a way (worked a deal with the unions), because of troubles with the aircraft and pressing back-logs of the 787 and other platforms. Boeing had to move on things and working a deal with the unions (paying extortion) was the only way out when you had the federal government playing mobster (Chicago way). http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/business/labor-board-drops-case-against-boeing.html?_r=0

Not to say Boeing is not chocked full of ball-less wonders, they are-—especially the defense side of the house where the senior executives are truly neutered.


134 posted on 11/21/2013 4:40:12 PM PST by Hulka
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To: boop

Move what to CA?

Long Beach plant is closing and it is way costly to build there (re-tooling the C-17 facility would be extraordinary expensive), so what would they be doing? Boeing already moved a lot of their MMU operations to OK because of the costs and such, so I am not sure what you are saying. Please provide details. Thanks.


135 posted on 11/21/2013 4:42:37 PM PST by Hulka
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To: GeronL

And the p[rice of the burgers will sky-rocket, thereby making it too expensive for the min-wage worker to afford.

Such a deal.


136 posted on 11/21/2013 4:43:47 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Sorry Hulka, my bad. I must have misunderstood the story in my local paper (South Seattle).

It showed Boeing officials discussing the Long Beach facility with local politicians.

It didn't mention closing, so I must have been wrong in my interpretation.

I thought they were talking about relocating/expanding there.

137 posted on 11/21/2013 5:46:54 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: boop

No worries. They might have been, initially, but not any more. It is closing when the last C-17 rolls off the line in ‘14.


138 posted on 11/22/2013 12:30:05 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Timber Rattler

Exactly. I confess to being mildly obsessed with this situation. My 3 syblings all live up there and having been there for years, 2 have become screaming liberals.

After she was elected I told my syblings I was making popcorn and was going to enjoy her 4 years in office. They were all insulted. After her comments about taking over Boeing so the workers could build buses, I mentioned what a brillient ‘Econ Prof’ she must surely be given her insightful comments. My syblings have suddenly gone silent. Apparently their brains have not been completely removed.

Very entertaining. I seriously hope Boeing, Google, Amazon, MicroSoft...shift jobs elsewhere. Over the next 10-20 years, Seattle could be the next Detroit.


139 posted on 12/10/2013 12:45:48 PM PST by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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