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Arne Duncan: White suburban moms’ upset that Common Core shows their kids aren’t ‘brilliant’
The Washington Post ^ | Saturday, November 16, 2013 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 11/17/2013 5:50:33 AM PST by kristinn

(Update: Adding more on opposition to Core, where Duncan spoke)

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”

Yes, he really said that. But he has said similar things before. What, exactly, is he talking about?

In his cheerleading for the controversial Common Core State Standards — which were approved by 45 states and the District of Columbia and are now being implemented across the country (though some states are reconsidering) — Duncan has repeatedly noted that the standards and the standardized testing that goes along with them are more difficult than students in most states have confronted.

The Core was designed to elevate teaching and learning. Supporters say it does that; critics say it doesn’t and that some of the standards, especially for young children, are not developmentally appropriate. Whichever side you fall on regarding the Core’s academic value, there is no question that their implementation in many areas has been miserable — so miserable that American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten, a Core supporter, recently compared it to another particularly troubled rollout:

You think the Obamacare implementation is bad? The implementation of the Common Core is far worse.

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Obama's secretary of Education: A mean spirited arrogant condescending liberal. And a racist.
1 posted on 11/17/2013 5:50:34 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Is there any other kind?


2 posted on 11/17/2013 5:57:08 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: kristinn
I have trouble with the intelligence of a mom who sends her kid to public school.

It may be hereditary.

3 posted on 11/17/2013 5:57:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: kristinn

How does “common core” work and how is it able to tell skin colour?


4 posted on 11/17/2013 5:57:41 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: kristinn

You can keep your common core Arne my kids are home schooled. They were in public school but I got tired of spending 4-5 hours every night teaching them. I would not have had to do that if you did your job that we pay you for in the first place.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 5:59:52 AM PST by jimpick
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To: kristinn

Isn’t it amazing how the people surrounding this POTUS and the POTUS himself are all coming out with the most outrageous and Arrogant statements. They constantly are pissing off the very people that are keeping this country afloat. Arne Duncan is a gay, white male who is the head of the educational system,(might I say that sucks) and he disses the “white suburban mom”. Isn’t that who voted for this POTUS?

All I can say is it is in God’s hands. Pray more.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 6:00:10 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: kristinn

Well of course the Teachers’ union is opposed to standardized testing, because that would show actual results of their employees’ work.

Golly, then we might start talking about getting rid of bad teachers, and rewarding the good ones.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 6:00:53 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: MestaMachine

Apparently, children are “brilliant” until they spontaneously spout the Statist clichés and memes.


8 posted on 11/17/2013 6:01:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: kristinn
their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were

And the guy that brought you to D.C. , Arne? You were just one of the harbingers of his now nearly full blown idiocy.

9 posted on 11/17/2013 6:03:27 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: kristinn

Sounds like Common Core is trying to redistribute the inner-city pedagogy into every other school in the nation so that everyone can be equally illiterate, innumerate, and dependent on habits of non-thinking.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 6:03:29 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: kristinn

White mom’s disillusioned that their children aren’t proficient at re-imagined BS liberaldom’s version of history? Oh, the horror!


11 posted on 11/17/2013 6:05:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: kristinn

This testing and stardards and who is actually in charge with what gets taught and how can be shown by a recent example from our local paper in which some mom was commenting about a recent event with her child. Seems the child lied about attending a sleep over which sleep over turned into a mega party, police involvment and her kid getting arrested trying to flee the premises. Her plea was for more community sponsored events to keep her “amazing child” occupied.

Reminded me of my childhood. I once told my father I had nothing to do. He said good, I have something to keep you occupied, grab the broom. BTW, “her amazing child” would have had a sitting problem had that been my family but no such concern on her part. Rather, it was the fault of the parents at the home where the party was held because they did not keep proper control over it. Similarly with school, most “parents” don’t want to spend the time socializing their kids or educating them, they want someone else to do it. In such an atmosphere the schools become “lord of the flies” petry dishes and as history says, you get what you sow.


12 posted on 11/17/2013 6:07:48 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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Someone started a White House petition to remove Sec. Duncan from office..
13 posted on 11/17/2013 6:08:21 AM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: kristinn

Yeah, those comments are so clearly racist that it boggles the mind. I mean he’s either saying ‘white suburban moms’ are too stupid to really know if their kids are being educated or not, or implying that non white suburban moms don’t really give a crap about their kids education.

Not a very flattering set of options.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 6:09:22 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: kristinn

One of the comments was so unbelievably stupid that I just have to say something. Some dude said that his dad told him that when parents are involved in education everything goes to pot.

Every teacher in the country (except those who are high) will tell you that parental involvement in education is critical to the success of the student. As an educator the most frustrating thing in the world is trying to convince the kids that it’s worth their time to apply themselves when the parents are just using the school as free childcare. The heartaches that good teachers are trying to impact are the kids whose parents expect the society to raise their kids for them. It doesn’t work, and anybody who has ever worked with kids knows that.

Some kids can get away from their crack-head parents during school, but the truth of the matter is that very, very few of those acorns will fall far from the tree. Teachers try, but the general principle of nature is that people stick with what they are comfortable with, what they are used to. That is why the tons of money poured into education hasn’t made a lick of difference. The problem in our schools is the apathy of the parents and the society that has created that apathy, and no matter how the schools try to become mommy and daddy for these kids they can’t do it.

What this guy says embodies that whole society. In his view the parents have a DUTY to stay out of their kids’ lives and let the powers of the wind take their children wherever the wind blows. The schools are failing because of people like him in a society that creates people like him - people who don’t know how to think and know and care even less about facts and evidence.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 6:11:47 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: drbuzzard

I wouldn’t think the suburban moms would even understand what is being said, so many being socialist types themselves.


16 posted on 11/17/2013 6:13:14 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: kristinn
U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”

Someone oughtta tell this jackass Duncan (who presided over a sub 50% graduation rate of the Chicago Public Schools) that "Common Core" isn't harder --- it's EASIER.

In fact, it's TOO EASY!!!! Common Core was dumbed down to make the INNER CITY kids look smarter than they are.

I have two sons in high school. My youngest (a freshman) is in five Honors Classes. He's getting A's in every single one. My oldest (a junior) is in three Honors classes this year and he's getting A's in two, a B+ in the third.

Frankly, I look at their homework and think what they're given in "honors" classes is far too easy. It looked like what I was getting in "non-honors" classes when I was in high school.

Tell me again Arne Duncan, you worthless Secretary of Education POC who RUINED Chicago Public Schools how "Common Core" is harder?

And this dumbass is the Secretary of Education? Proof the Democrats want to DUMB DOWN America to create generations of Democrat dependent voters IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!

17 posted on 11/17/2013 6:16:42 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: kristinn

Good grief, is there a single democrat who is not a wanna be Nazi and racist @sshat at the same time?


18 posted on 11/17/2013 6:17:02 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kristinn
Common core puts everyone on the same level, it's purpose is to kill achievement in those who would excel. It seems as though Duncan is very happy, it works! Take that white suburban moms your kids will be as dumb as we want them to be, after all it's not fair to the rest of the dummies
19 posted on 11/17/2013 6:17:55 AM PST by ronnie raygun (todays truths are yesterdays conspiracies)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Common Core is trying to redistribute the inner-city pedagogy into every other school in the nation so that everyone can be equally illiterate, innumerate, and dependent on habits of non-thinking.

Exactly correct, and that's what Duncan did to all the Chicago Pubic Schools ... dumbed them down to the same level of incompetence.

Thank God I don't live in Chicago or C(r)ook County!

20 posted on 11/17/2013 6:18:45 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: kristinn

I’m sure glad this guy is around to put white suburbia in its place.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 6:20:46 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: kristinn

Most of the complaints I have heard regarding Common Core have to do with both the subtle and overt indoctrination of students with pro communist, pro muslim, pro one-world leftist mush.


22 posted on 11/17/2013 6:24:14 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Some private schools are bringing in common core, too, so that kids are ready for standardized tests.
I discovered this when my fifth grader, who is learning algebra, was confused by the matrix method of multiplying two digit numbers. I’d never heard of it, much less had to explain it.


23 posted on 11/17/2013 6:26:19 AM PST by tbw2
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To: kristinn

White people are not interested in sending their kids to a school that acts as a day care. White people want their kids to learn, They want them to learn their mathematical Times tables and to write in cursive and they want history taught to them.

But no matter these days what white people want they bring out that it is racist . Racist to want their children to learn, and racist to expect the public school system they are paying for to teach.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 6:29:18 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Yardstick

Where Arne Duncan Sends His Kids to School
When asked this question: As the second education secretary with school-aged kids, where does your daughter go to school, and how important was the school district in your decision about where to live?

Duncan replied: She goes to Arlington [Virginia] public schools. That was why we chose where we live, it was the determining factor. That was the most important thing to me. My family has given up so much so that I could have the opportunity to serve; I didn’t want to try to save the country’s children and our educational system and jeopardize my own children’s education.

Check the class size in Arlington and also the per spending per pupil. I wonder why he didn’t send his kids to DC schools under Michelle Rhee? Think his daughter is going to get enough test prep? Does Arlington have mayoral control of schools? Or does Duncan get to vote on school budgets and have a school board? Duncan sends his kids to schools where he gets the same parental privileges that he wants to deny parents in urban school districts.

http://ednotesonline.blogspot.com/2009/04/where-arne-duncan-sends-his-kids-to.html


25 posted on 11/17/2013 6:30:57 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: kristinn

what a dipshit

people are upset about it because it is a steaming pile of communism


26 posted on 11/17/2013 6:39:07 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kristinn

Common Core is a totalitarian collectivist bureaucrat’s wet dream.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 6:42:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Navy Patriot

All the schools have problems. My kid goes to the snootiest school in town and it is full of atheists and rich Democrats. The Catholic schools are full of liberal idiots. The Christian schools are oppressive and don’t trust the kids. What is the answer?


28 posted on 11/17/2013 6:49:43 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kristinn
This is so scary. This is the culmination of years of work into how to make people thoroughly liberal. But people aren't naturally liberal. So when measured by this curriculum, they look stupid.
29 posted on 11/17/2013 6:51:38 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kristinn

What happened to “Race to the Top?”


30 posted on 11/17/2013 6:52:04 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: yldstrk

Home school.


31 posted on 11/17/2013 6:56:35 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot
"I have trouble with the intelligence of a mom who sends her kid to public school.

It may be hereditary.
"

HEAR! HEAR! After the first of our four children hit the fifth grade and we discovered what the agenda was of the Department of Education we pulled him out of school and home schooled them all. I've since repeatedly stated and will continue to shout from the rooftops, if you love your children you will educate them yourselves.

You state, "It may be hereditary." Absolutely. Think about it. Why would parents subject their children to the same education they received when that same system left them impotent to pass on what they were supposed to have learned if it were not in their genes to shirk their responsibility to raise their children themselves?

Forgive me. I don't want to get started. I could rant all day about this.

32 posted on 11/17/2013 6:56:44 AM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Navy Patriot

yes


33 posted on 11/17/2013 7:00:48 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kristinn

Another commie cracker playing the race card. This crap is getting old. It’s time to get all of these college programmed retards out of there.


34 posted on 11/17/2013 7:03:07 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Repeal ObamaScam NOW!!!)
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To: kristinn

Diluting education to the lowest common denominator is the best way to produce idiot voters and create obedient followers. While we have that now, this will shift the assembly line to full speed.

I am proud as hell that Texas said “NO” to this POS and to the Fed money with all the strings attached.


35 posted on 11/17/2013 7:05:47 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: kristinn

Yeah, that will work because Obama always listens to the people.....*SNERKS*


36 posted on 11/17/2013 7:06:14 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
I do post wisecracks a lot, but the only way I see for proper parental control of public schools, is the willingness to pull their kids out at the first sign of anti parental indoctrination, and home school them.

Trying to get along with any of the officials or teachers is viewed as weakness to be exploited. All your kid means to public schooling is a source of money, vouchers might fix some problems, but not many.

Government schooling seeks to put parents and children at odds so both can be controlled by playing them against each other. Hollywood and "musicians" do the same.

37 posted on 11/17/2013 7:17:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: kristinn

That’s funny, I thought Common Core was because Teachers sucked.


38 posted on 11/17/2013 7:19:19 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: kristinn

Isn’t this the grand-child of “No Child Left Behind”?


39 posted on 11/17/2013 7:23:05 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: kristinn

Arnie baby knows a thing or two about stupid white people.

After all, he sees one in the mirror every morning.


40 posted on 11/17/2013 7:30:22 AM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: usconservative

Let’s give credit where it’s due even as we despise it.

The early 20th century progressives understood that control of the education system was key to controlling the direction of our nation. They implemented their plan through the Department of Education and a wholesale takeover of higher education, aided by their union/political allies, to perfection. They cemented it by taking over the entertainment/news industry.

The results speak for themselves and the power they enjoy today is a direct result of their successful efforts.


41 posted on 11/17/2013 7:32:34 AM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: kristinn

Ya right


42 posted on 11/17/2013 7:44:54 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: kristinn

Arne Duncan just another Chicago leadership disaster in DC. Chicago and Obama the epitome of FAIL.


43 posted on 11/17/2013 7:48:24 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: butterdezillion
>>>>The problem in our schools is the apathy of the parents and the society that has created that apathy, and no matter how the schools try to become mommy and daddy for these kids they can’t do it.<<<

Horse crap. My son was falling behind in reading because of poor curriculum. We spent 4-5 hours a day at home after school working with him. We were in daily contact with the teacher to ensure we were teaching the correct things.

The school was using sight words to teach him. We pulled him out and used phonics and within a year he was reading way ahead of his grade level. That was a nearly 3 year advancement from where he was. It was the school not us the parents.

I agree that there are many parents that do ignore their kids as you suggest but to say it is all the parent lack of participation is false.

44 posted on 11/17/2013 7:48:48 AM PST by jimpick
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To: marygam

He has a wife and kids.


45 posted on 11/17/2013 7:49:43 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: jimpick

” It was the school not us the parents.”

And the problem is not the child either. That has been my suspicion. If you don’t have “standardized”, efficient teaching — how can you have standardized tests?


46 posted on 11/17/2013 7:58:29 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: ilovesarah2012

What a disgusting hypocrite this commie is.


47 posted on 11/17/2013 8:10:13 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: jimpick
They were in public school but I got tired of spending 4-5 hours every night teaching them. I would not have had to do that if you did your job that we pay you for in the first place.

I had the same problem with private schools. When I pulled my kids we got more done in far less time.

48 posted on 11/17/2013 8:11:13 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head when you're done.)
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>>>When I pulled my kids we got more done in far less time. <<<

Exactly. We spend just as much time with a full day of education as we did every night helping them. So in essence we were getting nothing from the school.

Well they were holding our kids back. So really less than nothing from a full day at school.

49 posted on 11/17/2013 8:15:00 AM PST by jimpick
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We spend just as much time with a full day of education as we did every night helping them. So in essence we were getting nothing from the school.

Actually, it's negative, because they were still controlling the content of study.

In the evening, I'll bet you get FAMILY time with them now. Sharing that for which we were grateful every evening after dinner was the delight of our lives together as a family.

50 posted on 11/17/2013 8:20:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head when you're done.)
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