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Americans are more conservative than they have been in decades
Washington Post ^ | 9/30/13 | Larry Bartels

Posted on 11/16/2013 6:04:54 PM PST by 1010RD

The latest update of Stimson’s policy mood series suggests that the American public in 2012 was more conservative than at any point since 1952. (Actually, since mood in each year is estimated with some error, it seems safer to say that the current level of conservatism roughly equals the previous highs recorded in 1980 and 1952.) While the slight increase in conservatism from 2011 to 2012 is too small to be significant, it continues a marked trend that began as soon as Barack Obama moved into the White House.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2013polls; bho44; gop; trends
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Good article and one that FReepers should study in preparation for the next cycle. We need to take the long view. We're winning, can we capture the Millenials with better ideas?

I think Mike Lee is a great spokesman for our values and his ideas can attract the mushy middle, which we need to win at the national level and in many Senate races as well.

1 posted on 11/16/2013 6:04:54 PM PST by 1010RD
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To: 1010RD
Here's the graph from the article:

Higher is more conservative.

2 posted on 11/16/2013 6:07:32 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

This is difficult to believe, looking at the recent election results.


3 posted on 11/16/2013 6:08:07 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: 1010RD

what’s the angle of the comPost? This must be the mandatory once in a year “appeal to conservatives who think we’re a bunch of obama ass kisser which we really are” article.


4 posted on 11/16/2013 6:10:41 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: JudyinCanada

At the state level, Republicans are doing very well. If it weren’t for the elitist boobs ruling the GOP at the federal level, the country would be in a lot better shape.


5 posted on 11/16/2013 6:11:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 1010RD

Here’s a link to a podcast on the stability of the American electorate over time:

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/07/morris_fiorina.html

We need to share conservative values in a way that attracts independents and the mushy middle.


6 posted on 11/16/2013 6:11:22 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JudyinCanada

They do not define ‘conservative” the same way we do.


7 posted on 11/16/2013 6:11:58 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Moonman62

Agreed. We win on the ground, but lose it to the GOPe. Some of that blame, though, goes to “TEA Party” candidates who just aren’t ready for prime time. We lost a couple of Senate seats that should have been easy pick ups.


8 posted on 11/16/2013 6:12:52 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JudyinCanada

You mean the one Romney lost? The one where 4 million white voters stayed home?


9 posted on 11/16/2013 6:13:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: max americana

Read the article. It’s the Monkey Cage, so WAPO has a looser leash there.


10 posted on 11/16/2013 6:14:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Americans are more conservative than they have been in decades

This is pure self-delusional drivel. When conservatives start winning when it counts, come back with the headline.

The more liberalism ruins people the more of Rush's low information voters (aka idiots) come out of the woodwork with the rest of the cock roaches.

Those who want to complete the destruction of this country want to sign up 20 million new low information voters (aka idiots).

11 posted on 11/16/2013 6:14:34 PM PST by stevem
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To: JudyinCanada

Actually not. When you get 90% of the urban vote it overwhelms a lot of conservative votes in other areas of the state. Of course some urban precincts provide 110% of the vote which makes it even more difficult.


12 posted on 11/16/2013 6:14:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: 1010RD
Americans are more conservative than they have been in decades

And more ignored by government employees while they strive to steal elections, shred the Constitution prostitute the law.

13 posted on 11/16/2013 6:15:03 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 1010RD

I mean McAuliffe and the new mayor of New York, just off the top of my head.


14 posted on 11/16/2013 6:15:27 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: 1010RD

RE: Americans are more conservative than they have been in decades

If this were true, how come Obama is president?

Where are these “conservatives” when you need them to stop a communist from leading our government?

2014 will tell us soon enough whether this article is true or not.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 6:15:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BunnySlippers

That explains it.


16 posted on 11/16/2013 6:15:51 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: BunnySlippers

Ugh! It’s not the WaPo, but the Monkey Cage and James Stimson is a researcher. Please read the article, pre-opinions are especially subject to high volatility and low-reason.


17 posted on 11/16/2013 6:16:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

They’re more conservative with their own money... other people’s money - not so much


18 posted on 11/16/2013 6:16:58 PM PST by Troublemaker
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To: stevem

I tend to agree with your view.

Every year 2.5m (mostly white, majority R voting) people die and are replaced by 2.53m (mostly minority, heavily D voting) people.

The trend is not our friend.


19 posted on 11/16/2013 6:17:12 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: stevem
(aka idiots)

That's aka Useful Idiots, to you Steve.

20 posted on 11/16/2013 6:17:12 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Cuccinelli lost and had himself to blame. NY isn’t America.

Did you read the article?


21 posted on 11/16/2013 6:17:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JudyinCanada

Well Obama did turn more Democrats into Republicans than any other president in history and gave us a glimpse of what living under socialism and tyrrany with freedoms and constitutional rights removed would look like. Is it any wonder really?


22 posted on 11/16/2013 6:18:12 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps a starting point would be reading the article?


23 posted on 11/16/2013 6:18:46 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Since Romney got a million more total votes than McCain, is it your belief that Romney got five million more non-white votes to make up for the lost four million white votes?


24 posted on 11/16/2013 6:21:00 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: stevem

How many states do Republicans control outright? How many states do Dems control outright?

Conservatives are noted for their ability to think and reason. It’s the LoInfos that emote and react.

Where are we losing and why? The House is more conservative than it’s been in two generations. Look to the facts, first.


25 posted on 11/16/2013 6:21:02 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Nothing in the article “proves” that America is becoming more conservative. A more conservative “mood” proves very little.

But let’s grant the premise.... what good is it if these conservatives don’t come out EN MASSE to vote?

The best we have are conservative spectators. That does nothing to stop Hillary in 2016.


26 posted on 11/16/2013 6:24:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: JudyinCanada

“This is difficult to believe, looking at the recent election results.”

Man, I agree. A muslim communist radical in the White House and re elected, homosexuality everywhere, collapsing schools, race relations at the lowest point in my life, free markets under siege... I know there’s more, but that’s off the top of my head. Hard to see.


27 posted on 11/16/2013 6:24:41 PM PST by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: jsanders2001

I was just talking to a registered Dem family. Their comment: The Democrats are destroying the middle class. This is in Cook County aka Obamacountry.

Romney lost the middle class last time out. We have to win them by not frightening them. They need opportunity, but they want stability. They’re on the margins and don’t like falling behind.

Opportunity knocks and we can capture a generation.


28 posted on 11/16/2013 6:31:01 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

If the GOPe would stop trying to be Democrat-Lite, then maybe they would win more elections.


29 posted on 11/16/2013 6:32:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: 1010RD


30 posted on 11/16/2013 6:33:22 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: 1010RD

Hard times create reality. Here is how it works. In good times the white middle class is fat dumb and happy. Dems approach them for more taxes by telling them it is for the poor or children. Reasonable number falls for the sells pitch and after all another 50 bucks here and there is no problem. Jobs are plenty.
Then recession hits. Jobs are scarce and money is tight. Dems approach them for more taxes using the same line, for the poor and children. Now white middle class Joe tells them sorry it is not possible. Dems instead of understanding launch into a tirade on how Joe is a typical stingy white guy and the poor always got money from him and now he is acting like a racist bastard. Guess white middle class Joe woke up out of his bubble. All this time he was never loved by the poor and minorities, they always despise his ass when he gave money, and they really let him have it when he was in a financial pinch.
Recession produce good conservatives, so does black on white crime.


31 posted on 11/16/2013 6:34:47 PM PST by Fee
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To: 1010RD

More conservatives? Sure, and if the libs keep aborting their children it’ll stay that way, too.


32 posted on 11/16/2013 6:35:22 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: jjotto

Obama drew 7.6 million fewer votes against his first performance. Why? GW Bush in 2004 gained 11 million votes over his first performance. Why?

Romney couldn’t convince the middle class he was on their side. It’s not Romney’s fault as Romney. The country wants a decent, pro-business, qualified candidate. We can win, but we have to show the middle class we’re on their side. Axelrod knew this and came up with the winning path.

America is at an inflection point that rarely happens. The last time was over a century ago. We can become the majority party based on effectively espoused conservative principles.

But you can’t do that if you lose the middle class. People vote their wallet and Obama isn’t running in 2014 or 16. Race won’t matter, economics will.

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/11/121107_POL_DemographicsOfVoters_Chart.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg


33 posted on 11/16/2013 6:36:35 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

This would confirm that there is a lot of commie ‘RAT voter fraud going on out there. Conservatives would never have elected a Marxist dictator from Kenya to be the President of the United States.


34 posted on 11/16/2013 6:37:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Repeal ObamaScam NOW!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Conservatives did come out. The middle class didn’t. Romney/the GOP wasn’t able to convince them they’re for the middle class.

We can change that. Cruz and Mike Lee are doing it. Sarah’s doing it. Hillary will work to triangulate herself a la her husband’s winning strategies.

We need to thwart that early and often. Obamacare is a gift. Americans were done with Obama in his first term. We need to make it stick.


35 posted on 11/16/2013 6:40:38 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

So how come so many states are making homo-sexual marriages legal?


36 posted on 11/16/2013 6:41:11 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: 1010RD

I can not believe those 4 million prefer president Zero over the moderate form Massachusetts.


37 posted on 11/16/2013 6:42:52 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s going to get cleaned up via GOP legislatures and lawsuits. It actually hurts the Dem machine in urban areas the worst. They depend on those ghost voters to maintain control. This means more radicals in urban areas and more opportunity for a Guiliani-type GOP mayor.


38 posted on 11/16/2013 6:43:02 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Indeed, from the standpoint of public opinion, the “Reagan era” had already passed its high water mark by the time its namesake was inaugurated.

tough to get my arms around that statement.
39 posted on 11/16/2013 6:43:30 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: entropy12

15/50 isn’t so many. They tend to be very liberal states already. Homosexuals have a tireless militant wing and lots of disposable income. Plus, the media lies for them.

Democrats here in Illinois don’t like it. Many are disgusted, but don’t want to be seen as bigots.

How many states are incrementally outlawing or drastically limiting it? We’re winning. Stop falling for the MSMs lies. They’re the psyops arm of the DNC.


40 posted on 11/16/2013 6:45:08 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: entropy12

They didn’t. Obama was down, too. We need to pick up the middle class. Doing so in a POTUS race means a landslide victory and a “mandate for change”.


41 posted on 11/16/2013 6:46:28 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Americans are more conservative?

Yeah - I can tell by their government. :)

And California is leading the way in conservativism. :D:D:D:D:D


42 posted on 11/16/2013 6:46:45 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: stylin19a

Leave your arms by your side, just get your head around it. ;-]

Stimson’s been tracking this for a while. The public wants change, they didn’t get what they wanted out of Obama. He lied and tricked them.

Don’t lie, don’t trick them, show them that you’re on their side and sell them conservatism in a way they can understand and we can run the country for a generation.


43 posted on 11/16/2013 6:48:00 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Tzimisce

Anecdotes don’t win elections. Americans are really unhappy with their government right now.


44 posted on 11/16/2013 6:48:56 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: All

The American people elected Obama, twice. They elected a more leftist senators and the people of VA elected Hillary’s bagman.. If they don’t vote, it doesn’t matter.


45 posted on 11/16/2013 6:50:51 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: jsanders2001

Jimmy Carter made me (and a lot of others) a conservative. It’s no surprise that Obama is making a lot of young people conservative, or that the last time the numbers were so high was 1980.


46 posted on 11/16/2013 6:51:12 PM PST by Hugin ( More firepower1)
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To: 1010RD

??

The headlines are the opposite of facts on the ground.

This country is more socialist than it has ever been.


47 posted on 11/16/2013 6:53:38 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 1010RD

This country is more and more socialist every year, the government is in the process of stealing or destroying 1/6th of the economy with ACA/single payer. Not even taking all the other stuff into account.

The idea that this country can be called “conservative” is ridiculous.


48 posted on 11/16/2013 6:54:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 1010RD

Sadly, I fear it makes no difference anymore what the American people believe or want.

They are going to get both a decadent society and an oppressive nanny state shoved down their throats.

“Whether they like it or not.”


49 posted on 11/16/2013 6:55:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 1010RD

Yes the one where liberal Romney failed to attract enough voters to win over liberal Obama


50 posted on 11/16/2013 6:55:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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