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Among U.S. presidents, LBJ tops charts in 'grandiose narcissism' study
Houston Chronicle ^ | November 13, 2013 | y Carol Christian |

Posted on 11/13/2013 6:10:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 11/13/2013 10:01:29 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In a recent study of U.S. presidents' personality traits, Lyndon Johnson ranked highest in grandiose narcissism.

While it frequently gets a bad rap, grandiose narcissism may predict both positive and negative leadership behaviors, according to a group of researchers who published a paper in October in Psychological Science.


(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: lbj; mentalhealth; narcissism; obama; personalitydisorder; presidents; top10
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1 posted on 11/13/2013 6:10:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why don’t they say who the king of the vulnerable narcissists is? It’s clearly got to barky.


2 posted on 11/13/2013 6:16:36 AM PST by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Obama leaves them all behind in the dust in terms of grandiosity and narcissism.

Remember the news photo of LBJ with his head in his hands, portraying him in a melt-down over Vietnam?

I want to see a shot of Obama just like that.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 6:17:12 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obviosly a flawed study that intentionally ignored the 600 lb gorilla in the room. And I remember LBJ, no comparison.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 6:17:29 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Each time Obama looks in the mirror, he sings this chorus from the country tune, "O Lord It's Hard to be Humble"

Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
When you're perfect in every way
I can't wait to look in the mirror
Cause I get better lookin' each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
But I'm doin' the best that I can!

Lyrics from eLyrics.net

5 posted on 11/13/2013 6:18:21 AM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Try as they might, I, for one, am not buying this distraction/detraction. It is, in fact, The One, Mr. Stompyfoot. He makes LBJ look like a patriot.


6 posted on 11/13/2013 6:19:15 AM PST by stanne
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To: rhinohunter

LBJ,”They’re all my helicopters:.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 6:20:59 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama lacks the intelligence to imagine truely grandiose fantasies. He’ll always be a minor leaguer in this contest but if one is willing to spot him twenty points as a handicap, in view of his obvious limitations, he might win.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 6:21:01 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: rhinohunter; All
PDF of study.
9 posted on 11/13/2013 6:21:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stanne

Case in point; The thesis from Brent Bozell’s piece this am:

“The spin control is actually amusing when you consider that it isn’t Team Obama trying to influence the media. It’s the media doing damage control for Team Obama.”


10 posted on 11/13/2013 6:22:29 AM PST by stanne
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To: SpaceBar
Obviosly a flawed study that intentionally ignored the 600 lb gorilla in the room. And I remember LBJ, no comparison.

***

This study stopped at GWB.

The paper, titled "The Double-Edged Sword of Grandiose Narcissism: Implications for Successful and Unsuccessful Leadership Among U.S. Presidents," looks at data on the 42 U.S. presidents from George Washington through George W. Bush.
11 posted on 11/13/2013 6:24:36 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americadd)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The evaluation criteria must have excluded consideration of sociopaths.


12 posted on 11/13/2013 6:25:36 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: stanne

The study stopped with George W. Bush.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 6:26:10 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americadd)
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To: pax_et_bonum; All
The Lonely Guy - Who believes he's the best at everything.
14 posted on 11/13/2013 6:29:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trash a jerk to make a bigger jerk look better... ain’t working... obama is the worst president by any metric.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 6:31:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My thoughts EXACTLY.


16 posted on 11/13/2013 6:32:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: stanne

“Amusing” isn’t the right word.


17 posted on 11/13/2013 6:33:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I agree. I am not amused. Here is the article. There’s a goofy grinning picture of Brian Williams at the top.

Mr. Bozell, I imagine, sees the media as being on the losing side in their battle to prevent the truth form coming out about their leader, Prince Stompyfoot.

http://townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/2013/11/13/digging-for-news-vs-digging-out-obama-n1745452


18 posted on 11/13/2013 6:41:36 AM PST by stanne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, come on. Compared to the current occupant?

I am barely old enough to remember LBJ. How many people responding to this poll had ever even seen him?


19 posted on 11/13/2013 6:42:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pax_et_bonum

“The study stopped with George W. Bush.”

Oh. Well, there you go. No doubt the researchers skipped the emperor, finding him, through their infatuation stupor, unquestionably exempt, though they did find the subject pertinent enough to write about during this time of complete, unforeseen revolution and perhaps destruction in our great medical system.


20 posted on 11/13/2013 6:44:50 AM PST by stanne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

21 posted on 11/13/2013 6:46:39 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: Buckeye McFrog
LBJ's Great Society has caused more human misery than any other U.S. President's actions by far.

LBJ created the "Vietnam War", as we know it. Somehow Republicans seem to be blamed for it now.
22 posted on 11/13/2013 6:58:51 AM PST by Prolixus (Summum ius summa inuria.)
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To: stanne

The paper is linked at post #9.


23 posted on 11/13/2013 7:06:24 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americadd)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Okay.

I simply pointed out that the study ended with George W. Bush.


24 posted on 11/13/2013 7:07:55 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americadd)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s not a poll.

The study is linked at post #9.


25 posted on 11/13/2013 7:09:57 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americadd)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’d have to agree. Any person who would present the Pope a statue of himself as LBJ did has to be a man of immense ego.


26 posted on 11/13/2013 7:14:12 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Prolixus

When I was a kid and my older bro was in Vietnam I used to scare the crap out of my younger brother by telling him LBJ lived under the basement steps. I would draw a caricature of LBJ on table napkins and slide them over to him during dinner and he’d practically faint. LBJ was my personal boogeyman - we were a Goldwater family - we even had a red cat named Goldwater! Today I like to think LBJ and McNamara are cleaning out the stables in Hades. LBJ was a dirty rotten creep democrat of the tallest order. Hard to say whose a worse narcissist - between him and Obama. LBJ is the worst American Narcissist President and the Preezy is the worst “post-American” Narcissist President.


27 posted on 11/13/2013 7:33:21 AM PST by februus
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To: Yossarian

Is that a shopped photo?

If not, it’s very Mousilini looking for sure.


28 posted on 11/13/2013 8:17:15 AM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
In the USAF a popular ditty for the late 60's was:

Jesus loves me, Yes he do

Lyndon Johnson told him to...

29 posted on 11/13/2013 8:25:27 AM PST by pfflier
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To: pax_et_bonum

Well, it’s good to find someone who realizes that George W. Bush was the 42nd President. Ask the average journalist and he or she probably thinks Obama is the 44th person to hold the office—people forget that Grover Cleveland #22 and Grover Cleveland #24 were the same person.


30 posted on 11/13/2013 8:26:08 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: pax_et_bonum

Who did they skip? GW to GWBush is 43 presidents.


31 posted on 11/13/2013 10:11:08 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: esoxmagnum
Is that a shopped photo? If not, it’s very Mousilini looking for sure.

Sorry to say, it's the real deal. From the 2009 Inauguration.

32 posted on 11/13/2013 5:20:29 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: pfflier

Army as well. Part of a cadence I heard in the mid 70’s. My DI probably picked up in the 60’s.

Now... Sound Off!.... Sound Off!.... 1, 2, 3, 4...


33 posted on 11/13/2013 5:32:30 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

LBJ helped pioneer ballot fraud in the US.

Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.


34 posted on 11/13/2013 6:42:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Prolixus

Whatever the left is blaming on the Conservatives is something of which they are guilty.

Take it to the bank.


35 posted on 11/14/2013 5:04:03 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: 7thson

Grover Cleveland had two presidential terms #22 and #24 interrupted by Benjamin Harrison, who was #23.


36 posted on 11/14/2013 5:10:52 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: SunkenCiv; Impy; InterceptPoint; Yaelle; ExTexasRedhead; TXRed; Texas Fossil; potlatch; ...
LBJ helped pioneer ballot fraud in the US.

Wouldn't give him that much "credit." Vote fraud was not unusual in the US, especially in urban areas with their (mostly Democratic) political machines, going back to the 1800s. But LBJ's stealing the 1948 primary for US Senate in Texas by manufacturing about 200 votes in a rural county was probably the most historically significant instance of it up to that time. If not for the fraud, LBJ would have been out of Congress then and could have been gone from elective office forever. American history would probably have been vastly different.

37 posted on 11/14/2013 7:36:42 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 11/14/2013 8:39:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; Political Junkie Too; Ladysforest; butterdezillion; ..
LBJ was more than a "grandiose narcissist." He was a severe psychopath and his crude, boorish, and violent behavior has been chronicled.

With the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination fast approaching, LBJ remains a hot suspect in the assassination case. In all probability, he masterminded several other murders as well.

A new book, "The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ", by Roger Stone and Mike Colapietro, reveals a slew of unflattering anecdotes about LBJ's psychiatric problems, and makes a strong case for his involvement in the Kennedy assassination as well. This is far from the first book fingering Johnson in that crime.

39 posted on 11/14/2013 9:52:16 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

And yet, as BAD as LBJ was, he did not destroy the American way of life in the same deliberate way that the current Narcissist-in-chief is doing.

(I agree with you, BTW)


40 posted on 11/14/2013 9:54:18 AM PST by left that other site (.)
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To: justiceseeker93

The first question any homicide investigator asks is “Who benefits?”


41 posted on 11/14/2013 9:54:58 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually, there’s plenty of competition.

Woodrow Wilson. Teddy Roosevelt. FDR.

But I’d agree that The One tops them all.


42 posted on 11/14/2013 9:56:07 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Yossarian

Ahhhhh! The levitating obama picture! I’d lost track of it!


43 posted on 11/14/2013 9:56:32 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Cicero; fieldmarshaldj

Andrew Jackson was up there as well.


44 posted on 11/14/2013 9:58:11 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: justiceseeker93

This is far from the first book fingering Johnson in that crime.

Why read it then if just a duplicate?


45 posted on 11/14/2013 10:15:07 AM PST by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: justiceseeker93

Payback is a b*tch. JFK chose LBJ as his running mate because, although he knew that Mayor Daley will steal Chicago for him, he needed LBJ to steal Texas as well. Otherwise he had no chance to win the election.

LBJ was a second Mafia boss, in effect.


46 posted on 11/14/2013 10:46:55 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I wouldn’t put anything past LBJ


47 posted on 11/14/2013 11:33:28 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: null and void; Yaelle; Cicero; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; theothercheek; Texas Fossil; bgill; ...
The first question any homicide investigator asks is “Who benefits?”

Good point. Aside from LBJ's obvious benefit of moving up to the presidency, there were government investigations going on at the time which very well could have led to criminal charges against him, especially since his nemesis Bobby Kennedy was Attorney General. Killing JFK and moving to the White House would surely solve that problem for Johnson. And, as I said, LBJ had, in all probability, killed before.

There was one critical piece of physical evidence found by a private detective years after the assassination: a fingerprint identified as belonging to an LBJ associate in the "sniper's nest" in the Texas School Book Depository Building!

48 posted on 11/14/2013 1:06:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: edcoil
Why read it then if just a duplicate?

It's not just a duplicate. There is new information gleaned from the author's personal research and his personal contacts. The author, Roger Stone, is a career GOP political insider, and knew a lot of people, especially Richard Nixon, very well.

49 posted on 11/14/2013 1:12:11 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Lyndon Bird was an immoral bastard who forced a few female reporters into bed as a favor to their president. He would interview his underlings while he squatted on the WH crapper.

He was very proud, however, not of his country but of his enormous schwanschticker.

In short. He was an animal.


50 posted on 11/14/2013 1:25:19 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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