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Coming Pension Meltdown: The 10 Most Troubled City Systems
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 11 Nov 2013 04:21 PM | Jennifer G. Hickey

Posted on 11/11/2013 4:17:31 PM PST by Olog-hai

Voters in Cincinnati last week soundly defeated a ballot initiative which would have overhauled the pension system for public workers, leaving the city without a plan to deal with $872 million in unfunded liabilities.

Cincinnati is not alone.

Across the nation, cities and states are finding funding for basic services being crowded out of their budgets by the rising cost of retirees’ pensions and healthcare. …

More and more cities, counties, and even some states will face the harsh reality of having to fix their pension systems or deal with a Detroit-style bankruptcy. …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: broke; meltdown; pensions; publicsectorunions; socialism; union; unions
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This is the table included in the article.
Here are the top 10 cities with the lowest percentage of funding for pension liabilities
City Total Liability % Funded
Charleston, W. Va. $270 million 24
Omaha, Neb. $1.43 billion 43
Portland, Ore. $5.46 billion 50
Chicago, Ill. 24.97 billion 52
Little Rock, Ark. $498 million 59
Wilmington, Del. $364 million 59
Boston, Mass. $2.54 billion 60
Atlanta, Ga. $3.17 billion 60
Manchester, N.H. $436 million 60
New Orleans, La. $1.99 billion 61
When this hits, the people will know who is to blame, and they know it will not be the conservatives.
1 posted on 11/11/2013 4:17:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I think the list is wildly understated and missing some of the deepest holes.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 4:25:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

Rats and unions colluded for decades to promise an exchange of union money and votes for extravagant pensions and stick the taxpayers with the bill. Problem is that the taxpayers are revolting and aren’t rolling over. The Rats and the union bosses ought to be prosecuted under Rico laws.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 4:26:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Olog-hai

Everywhere you look there are death spirals going on. Who would move or start a business in a town with something like this hanging over their heads? Why would you stay?


4 posted on 11/11/2013 4:28:13 PM PST by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

Lots of usual suspects but Omaha hits me as an outlier....


5 posted on 11/11/2013 4:28:33 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Olog-hai
Detroit, he says, was using the standard 8 percent return on assets, widely used by other funds. Donlan argues that is foolhardy to claim an 8 percent rate of return.

Very common thing, doling out pensions based on formulas figuring a rosy return on fund investments. Projecting big returns like 8 percent when reality is not even half that. By contract, the cities are on the hook to make up the shortfall. They need to change the contracts with the unions so the cities won't have to make up the difference. But they won't.

6 posted on 11/11/2013 4:28:39 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Olog-hai

On my list of things I GAF about, public pension funding is, well NOT EVEN ON THAT LIST! Maggots.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 4:29:07 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai
When this hits, the people will know who is to blame, and they know it will not be the conservatives

When this hits, the democrats will propose a federal bailout, the republicans will oppose it, the republicans will get the blame for the "crisis" and blame it on the Tea party. Count on it.

8 posted on 11/11/2013 4:31:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Democrats want to loot 401k personal savings. I will not bail out these pensioners.

90% of your salary? For life? With early retirement?


9 posted on 11/11/2013 4:33:39 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Olog-hai

The NEXT 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money
Business Insider 12/27/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3044951/posts
This list from 2010 doesn’t jive with the cities listed here. Does that mean the cities are just getting bailed out by the state?


10 posted on 11/11/2013 4:35:10 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The one you have presented “feels” more correct in my view of the world.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 4:36:28 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Olog-hai

The current low interest rates are keeping the federal deficit lower than it would otherwise be, but making a bad situation worse for pension funds.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 4:36:41 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Thank god we have obamacare to provide for these retirees.... /s
Now we have the REAL reason the dems want obamadare
13 posted on 11/11/2013 4:39:44 PM PST by vet7279
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“initiative which would have overhauled the pension system for public workers”

How much was predicated on large tax increases of some sort? The article wasn’t clear.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 4:40:42 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I worked with a public employee union for years and they truly believe that they will never have to take a cut to their pensions.


15 posted on 11/11/2013 4:42:30 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: roadcat

Saginaw Michigan was headed for bankruptcy but the emergency manager pulled them back from the brink. The city went from some 200 city employees to 10. Private contractors picked up most of the city employees and negotiated new union contracts with the employees.

The city isn’t out of the woods but they’re in a lot better position than they were.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 4:44:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: vet7279

Most public employees that are unionized have Cadillac plans. They wanted Gov’t insurance because that meant more gov’t employees. But they never intended to have the same insurance the peons (taxpayers) have.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 4:45:22 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: cripplecreek

I didn’t see Calpers (California)on the list, many others.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 4:47:06 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: a fool in paradise
90% of your salary? For life? With early retirement?

Indeed... it's possible that in addition to the current holder of a given job, there might be two of his predecessors getting pension checks. The Commies just need to prop up the current system a little longer, until the death panels can get to work taking the pressure off.

I don't recall many references to retirees in Soviet Russia. Betcha there are plenty of unmarked mass graves, though.

19 posted on 11/11/2013 4:53:11 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve said it before, —I would like to see these unions win judgements to force these politicians to sell all public owned properties and put up tents where these politicians are employed— they granted these pensions/promises or did nothing to slow down the expansion of debt.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 4:54:12 PM PST by Mark (DONATE to FR Now!)
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