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Breaking: France refuses to allow Obama to sell out to Iran on nuke talks
Legal Insurrection ^ | November 9, 2013 | Professor William A. Jacobson

Posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With a fevered and frantic breathless pace, Obama via John Kerry has been pushing to sign a sell-out deal with Iran that would ease sanctions without shutting down Iran’s nuke program.

Benjamin Netanyahu was furious when he found out that Kerry had misrepresented what the proposed agreement would be, not to mention Kerry running at the mouth to bash Israel on the talks with the Palestinians.

Netanyahu was not alone. France was uncomfortable with the deal Kerry wanted to sign, even as Kerry huddled with the Iranians trying to get ‘er done.

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Thank you France for at least buying us some time to prevent the historic sell out of Israel that was in the offing as recently as early today.

Via NY Times, Talks with Iran Fail to Produce a Nuclear Pact:

In the end, though, it was not only divisions between Iran and the major powers that prevented a deal, but fissures within the negotiating group. Earlier in the day, France objected strenuously that a proposed deal would do too little to curb Iran’s uranium enrichment or to stop the development of a nuclear reactor capable of producing plutonium.

“The Geneva meeting allowed us to advance, but we were not able to conclude because there are still some questions to be addressed,” the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, told reporters.

The Times of Israel reports:

Israel lobbied hard against the deal on Saturday, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz reported to have spoken to representatives of some of the P5+1 nations. US President Barack Obama called Netanyahu on Friday after the prime minister publicly castigated the emerging deal as “very, very bad” and “dangerous” and said he had pleaded with Kerry not to sign it. Netanyahu also spoke to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Jerusalem Post reports on how Israel was side-swiped as Obama-Kerry’s negotiating position collapsed in favor of the Iranians:

But over the weekend, Israel learned that the deal on the table is far worse than the one presented to it on Wednesday, and included four clauses for the easing of sanctions rather than just one. Israeli officials said they became furious when the details of the actual deal reached them, describing it as an “enormous mistake.”

“[US Secretary of State John] Kerry left with food for thought after a tough conversation with [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu,” the political source said.

At the same time, he stressed, the US did not deceive Israel. Instead, the Americans “folded” between Wednesday and the weekend, “maybe because they very much want to reach an agreement and be done with this,” he added.

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When France makes you into a surrender monkey, you're a Sissy Mary.
1 posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It took fifty years...but finally, France has stood up for something. You’d have to go back to WW II or the Napoleonic-age to find that gutsy of a move. Next? The Germans. They will toss the five-hundred-pound gorilla off their backs and state the obvious.


2 posted on 11/10/2013 2:04:37 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Historic sellout of Israel in the making, 1938 all over again.

Why are Obama and Kerry so eager to get sodomized by Iran?

Good for France, showing backbone for the first time since 1870...

Shame on Obama, he's destroying everything.

3 posted on 11/10/2013 2:09:03 AM PST by Netz
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To: pepsionice
It took fifty years...but finally, France has stood up for something.

And in so doing, makes America look mighty small.
How far we have fallen!

4 posted on 11/10/2013 2:15:56 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Netz

“Historic sellout of Israel in the making, 1938 all over again.”
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Yes, but the Jews still love Obumbo, their new messiah....
Stupid fools.


5 posted on 11/10/2013 2:16:59 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Netz

I read a fascinating article once on why liberals do things that are the exact opposite of logical. The author posits it’s because for thousands of years people did logical things and we’re still not living in utopia. Therefore doing the exact opposite of logical will lead us to utopia. Nobody, other than Jimmy Carter, ever thought to give them everything they wanted and Jimmy obviously didn’t go far enough.

On the other hand, it may be that our president is a traitor to America and western civilization and he wants a new Caliphate to rise up and turn us all into slaves. (I’m not sure where he thinks he’ll be in this new Caliphate, but he sees himself in some central role. Or, he believes it will not affect him. I suspect he lives in an imaginary world where he’s continuously accepting the Nobel prize.)


6 posted on 11/10/2013 2:19:01 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Netz

“Why are Obama and Kerry so eager to get sodomized by Iran?”

Cuz they are the smartest guys in the room, and, they got their feet set. Bring on the Twelfth Imam!


7 posted on 11/10/2013 2:19:42 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like France did not get some financial concession that they wanted ...


8 posted on 11/10/2013 2:23:45 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BS that the US did not deceive Israel.

Were it up to the 0bamaists, Jews worldwide would be on express cattle trains to Muslim run, uranium fueled crematories.

Make NO MISTAKE, world Jewry: 0bama and his ilk wish you ALL dead. Dead and erased from human memories.

0bama and his ilk would love to show Hitler to have been a piker.


9 posted on 11/10/2013 2:26:53 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

A nuclear armed Iran is a major threat to Sunnidom including Saudi Arabia and Lebanon - the latter with longtime French interests.

The big question is why Obama is giving up on his allies in Saudi and the Muslim Brotherhood and linking up with shi’ite Iran?


10 posted on 11/10/2013 2:33:02 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: pepsionice
I've been telling people for years not to under estimate the French. They suffered horribly in WW1, terrible generalship, they had not yet recovered from WW1 when WW2 came along. But ever since 300 BC the franks have been very good at the art of war. It is nice to see them back in the game and on the side of Western Civilization. Twice, once in 450ish AD (Huns) and again around 800ish AD (Islam) the Franks saved the West. They also saved the very young USA at Yorktown.

Viva la France!

11 posted on 11/10/2013 2:42:53 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama has even less backbone than France? Even liberals should be embarrassed.


12 posted on 11/10/2013 3:04:06 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
The big question is why Obama is giving up on his allies in Saudi and the Muslim Brotherhood and linking up with shi’ite Iran?

The big question is, whose financial interests is Obama implementing and what exactly would France like to have as a concession. France's oil & gas industries were heavily involved in Iran and the embargo has certainly damaged a lot of contracts. Both the US and France are currently governed by socialists, and any good socialist knows that they need a lot of money to maintain control.

in the end, it's all about oil ...

13 posted on 11/10/2013 3:10:30 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure the muslim terrorists stationed in France will try to make them pay for this...so it must be said:

Veve La France!


14 posted on 11/10/2013 3:15:20 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: jpsb

Lafayette, have you returned?


15 posted on 11/10/2013 3:18:29 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Historians have wondered how the Roman Empire collapsed and the Dark Ages began. We are seeing it happen again...in real time.


16 posted on 11/10/2013 3:20:39 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

BS.

Don’t even bring that sunni-shia song and dance to the table.

It has no relevance whatsoever, except in being used by the morons to cloud the issue.


17 posted on 11/10/2013 3:32:39 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Netz

There’s no secret about the muslim, or the democrat, and nothing special about Obama. He has his task, and his task is to transform America into a Caliphate built on a socialist model. Or bring about armageddon.

He won’t stop until he’s dead.


18 posted on 11/10/2013 3:37:10 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Hardraade

I would stunned if obama leaves office in 2017 peacefully.


19 posted on 11/10/2013 3:41:46 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What can any country expect from John Kerry but a sell-out?

He sold out our troops an will sell out our country.

Obama was slick when he picked this traitor to lead American foreign policy and 94 Senators sold us out when they agreed to it.

It wasn’t the first time the French dealt with the traitor . Kerry was in France dealing with the Viet Cong while we were fighting them.


20 posted on 11/10/2013 3:43:57 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Netz

Obama is willing to cozy up to Iran because Valarie Jenrett told him to do so.


21 posted on 11/10/2013 3:55:06 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Pollster1

What else would you expect from a (m)uslim sympathizer and a Jew hater. Too bad that here in this country way too many Jews lap up this socialistic crap, the same stuff what caused them to end up in Hitler’s concentration camps, and now way too many are gung ho for the same crap. Makes one wonder if people ever learn or if history has to repeat itself until they do.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 4:13:52 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: saintgermaine
Makes one wonder if people ever learn or if history has to repeat itself until they do.

The one thing I've learned from history is that those who want to be taken care of by a big and (in their minds automatically) benevolent government don't learn from history.

23 posted on 11/10/2013 4:30:55 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bm


24 posted on 11/10/2013 4:38:08 AM PST by Vision (Trayvon Martin illustrates the bankruptcy of the modern civil rights movement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember an anarchist named Kerry met with communist Vietnam in Paris which precipitated congress pulling funding for US troops fighting in Vietnam. He effectively gave away South Vietnam to the Vietcong, and he had no official standing. He loves this type meeting where he can do so much damage to the US. Congress then was scared out of their wits of the revolutionary groups all across the country - not much different from a bunch of congress persons today - afraid of their shadows. Kerry is dumb and dangerous.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 4:40:56 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Frenchies stared down Secretary Francois ?
26 posted on 11/10/2013 4:41:19 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: AlexW
It is a sad fact that they still support the King who has no clothes. If the vast majority of these Jews were still connected to the Jewish people and their concerns, they would never have voted for the clown but they are delusional. They could not put 2 and 2 together, that a vote for MB Obama is a vote against their brothers & sisters in Israel. They mistakenly thought that by supporting the clown that they would help “modernize” America. Well, it all failed.
27 posted on 11/10/2013 4:55:51 AM PST by Netz
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To: Maine Mariner

Not just that.
It’s part of his ideological world view. He must CHANGE America, he must CHANGE the world to his vision.

He’s on a roll and he can’t stop no matter how destructive his policies are to America, the West and our allies like Israel.


28 posted on 11/10/2013 4:58:36 AM PST by Netz
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To: Gen.Blather
It's the money. They are being paid by billionaire oligarchs. This is why Paul Ryan is going for amnesty--he's being paid by Zuckerberg.

When the billionaires have what they want, they'll stop paying them. Even Paul Ryan is too stupid to understand that as soon as Zuckerberg an GW Bush get the flood of illegals they want, they'll stop supporting Paul Ryan.

29 posted on 11/10/2013 5:12:52 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; 2111USMC; 2ndDivisionVet; Absolutely Nobama; acapesket; AirForce-TechSgt; aknkate; ...
Vive ls France. Never thought I would be saying such a thing, but here it is. I weep for my country.

This is a Threat Matrix list documenting threats within and without. Anyone wanting on or off please advise.


30 posted on 11/10/2013 5:14:30 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Netz

-——Why are Obama and Kerry so eager——
They are pacifist cowards.

They are intent on proving that giving peace a chance will triumph over war . The goal is to polish the tarnished Obama name to historical respectability.

The fact that removing the tarnish is harmful doesn’t matter.


31 posted on 11/10/2013 5:28:12 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: All

32 posted on 11/10/2013 5:37:46 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But over the weekend, Israel learned that the deal on the table is far worse than the one presented to it on Wednesday, and included four clauses for the easing of sanctions rather than just one. Israeli officials said they became furious when the details of the actual deal reached them, describing it as an “enormous mistake.”

Those lies goes hand in hand with this Obama lie:

"US will 'do what we must' to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons"

33 posted on 11/10/2013 5:39:59 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: jpsb
Yes, they did pull our bacon out of the fire at Yorktown. But keep in mind that debt was paid in full, twice in 1918 and 1945. It is encouraging, however that they have grown a spine in a time when we in the US seem to have misplaced ours.

CC

34 posted on 11/10/2013 5:44:41 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zounds! Quite a record he has built up:

1. Called foolish by JIMMY CARTER

2. Called cowardly by FRANCE

3. ?????


35 posted on 11/10/2013 5:47:27 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Netz
Good for France, showing backbone for the first time since 1870...

Make that 1917.

They actually fought well in the early days of the Great War.

36 posted on 11/10/2013 5:51:08 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: grobdriver

“How far we have fallen!”

France played a key role in the founding of our country. People forget where the Statue of Liberty came from, and France plays second fiddle to no one in dealing with tyrannical monarchs.

Yeah they can be annoying in modern times, but I sure would hate for America to be forever judged by folks observing the obama regime and his milquetoast policies.


37 posted on 11/10/2013 5:58:39 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Jerusalem Post reports on how Israel was side-swiped as Obama-Kerry’s negotiating position collapsed in favor of the Iranians"

Bull frickin' crap...the negotiating position didn't 'collapse'...Obama/Kerry had no intention of protecting Israel or curbing Iran's nukes.

So now France is tough and America is a weak-assed punk (Obama). Thanks to Obama and millions of idiots who vote, the world is upside-down.

38 posted on 11/10/2013 6:18:49 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: DuncanWaring
"They actually fought well in the early days of the Great War."

The French soldiers fought as bravely and fiercely as anyone. But the French Generalship was terrible, English generalship only slightly better. Had Pershing been made supreme commander the war would have ended in 1917 with a German surrender. Loses on both sides were simply terrible. Frontal assaults on machine gun emplacements was the rule. At least at Gettysburg American generals learned not to frontally assault strong positions if it could be avoided.

39 posted on 11/10/2013 6:23:52 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama foreign policy = Ron Paul foreign policy = suicide


40 posted on 11/10/2013 6:33:53 AM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: jpsb

I see no positive trend in France but rather a hickup of sanity appearing from time to time.


41 posted on 11/10/2013 6:37:23 AM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: DuncanWaring

And I’ve had great interactions with some of the French Infantry guys. They’re very capable, when allowed by their political leaders and officers.


42 posted on 11/10/2013 6:39:53 AM PST by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: RFEngineer

Agreed. Frenchman like DeToquville and Lafayette should never be mentioned in the same breath as anyone today who identifies themselves as a democRAT.


43 posted on 11/10/2013 6:46:40 AM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: lormand

France is leading the fight against radical Islam.


44 posted on 11/10/2013 6:57:28 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The French are being brave... and acting with principle ... It’s time to put french snide comments away...


45 posted on 11/10/2013 7:00:03 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: jpsb
Frontal assaults on machine gun emplacements was the rule.

Described by someone (Winston Churchill?) as "Young men trying to wear-out machine guns with their chests".

46 posted on 11/10/2013 8:19:40 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
True to type.


47 posted on 11/10/2013 8:44:51 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Gen.Blather
Obama wants a legacy.

He wants to single-handedly bring down The Great Satan and have his praises sung in every mosque for thousands of years.

48 posted on 11/10/2013 9:03:24 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes, the French charged real good into German machine guns...worth seeing Kubrick’s 1957 classic, Paths of Glory...


49 posted on 11/10/2013 9:04:23 AM PST by Netz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow.

We are The New Sick Man of the world.

On a Veterans’ Day weekend, no less.


50 posted on 11/10/2013 9:05:27 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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