Skip to comments.Breaking: France refuses to allow Obama to sell out to Iran on nuke talks
Posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
With a fevered and frantic breathless pace, Obama via John Kerry has been pushing to sign a sell-out deal with Iran that would ease sanctions without shutting down Irans nuke program.
Benjamin Netanyahu was furious when he found out that Kerry had misrepresented what the proposed agreement would be, not to mention Kerry running at the mouth to bash Israel on the talks with the Palestinians.
Netanyahu was not alone. France was uncomfortable with the deal Kerry wanted to sign, even as Kerry huddled with the Iranians trying to get er done.
Thank you France for at least buying us some time to prevent the historic sell out of Israel that was in the offing as recently as early today.
Via NY Times, Talks with Iran Fail to Produce a Nuclear Pact:
In the end, though, it was not only divisions between Iran and the major powers that prevented a deal, but fissures within the negotiating group. Earlier in the day, France objected strenuously that a proposed deal would do too little to curb Irans uranium enrichment or to stop the development of a nuclear reactor capable of producing plutonium.
The Geneva meeting allowed us to advance, but we were not able to conclude because there are still some questions to be addressed, the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, told reporters.
The Times of Israel reports:
Israel lobbied hard against the deal on Saturday, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz reported to have spoken to representatives of some of the P5+1 nations. US President Barack Obama called Netanyahu on Friday after the prime minister publicly castigated the emerging deal as very, very bad and dangerous and said he had pleaded with Kerry not to sign it. Netanyahu also spoke to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The Jerusalem Post reports on how Israel was side-swiped as Obama-Kerrys negotiating position collapsed in favor of the Iranians:
But over the weekend, Israel learned that the deal on the table is far worse than the one presented to it on Wednesday, and included four clauses for the easing of sanctions rather than just one. Israeli officials said they became furious when the details of the actual deal reached them, describing it as an enormous mistake.
[US Secretary of State John] Kerry left with food for thought after a tough conversation with [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu, the political source said.
At the same time, he stressed, the US did not deceive Israel. Instead, the Americans folded between Wednesday and the weekend, maybe because they very much want to reach an agreement and be done with this, he added.
It took fifty years...but finally, France has stood up for something. You’d have to go back to WW II or the Napoleonic-age to find that gutsy of a move. Next? The Germans. They will toss the five-hundred-pound gorilla off their backs and state the obvious.
Why are Obama and Kerry so eager to get sodomized by Iran?
Good for France, showing backbone for the first time since 1870...
Shame on Obama, he's destroying everything.
And in so doing, makes America look mighty small.
How far we have fallen!
“Historic sellout of Israel in the making, 1938 all over again.”
Yes, but the Jews still love Obumbo, their new messiah....
I read a fascinating article once on why liberals do things that are the exact opposite of logical. The author posits its because for thousands of years people did logical things and were still not living in utopia. Therefore doing the exact opposite of logical will lead us to utopia. Nobody, other than Jimmy Carter, ever thought to give them everything they wanted and Jimmy obviously didnt go far enough.
On the other hand, it may be that our president is a traitor to America and western civilization and he wants a new Caliphate to rise up and turn us all into slaves. (Im not sure where he thinks hell be in this new Caliphate, but he sees himself in some central role. Or, he believes it will not affect him. I suspect he lives in an imaginary world where hes continuously accepting the Nobel prize.)
“Why are Obama and Kerry so eager to get sodomized by Iran?”
Cuz they are the smartest guys in the room, and, they got their feet set. Bring on the Twelfth Imam!
Looks like France did not get some financial concession that they wanted ...
BS that the US did not deceive Israel.
Were it up to the 0bamaists, Jews worldwide would be on express cattle trains to Muslim run, uranium fueled crematories.
Make NO MISTAKE, world Jewry: 0bama and his ilk wish you ALL dead. Dead and erased from human memories.
0bama and his ilk would love to show Hitler to have been a piker.
A nuclear armed Iran is a major threat to Sunnidom including Saudi Arabia and Lebanon - the latter with longtime French interests.
The big question is why Obama is giving up on his allies in Saudi and the Muslim Brotherhood and linking up with shi’ite Iran?
Viva la France!
Obama has even less backbone than France? Even liberals should be embarrassed.
The big question is, whose financial interests is Obama implementing and what exactly would France like to have as a concession. France's oil & gas industries were heavily involved in Iran and the embargo has certainly damaged a lot of contracts. Both the US and France are currently governed by socialists, and any good socialist knows that they need a lot of money to maintain control.
in the end, it's all about oil ...
I’m sure the muslim terrorists stationed in France will try to make them pay for this...so it must be said:
Veve La France!
Lafayette, have you returned?
Historians have wondered how the Roman Empire collapsed and the Dark Ages began. We are seeing it happen again...in real time.
Don’t even bring that sunni-shia song and dance to the table.
It has no relevance whatsoever, except in being used by the morons to cloud the issue.
There’s no secret about the muslim, or the democrat, and nothing special about Obama. He has his task, and his task is to transform America into a Caliphate built on a socialist model. Or bring about armageddon.
He won’t stop until he’s dead.
I would stunned if obama leaves office in 2017 peacefully.
What can any country expect from John Kerry but a sell-out?
He sold out our troops an will sell out our country.
Obama was slick when he picked this traitor to lead American foreign policy and 94 Senators sold us out when they agreed to it.
It wasn’t the first time the French dealt with the traitor . Kerry was in France dealing with the Viet Cong while we were fighting them.
Obama is willing to cozy up to Iran because Valarie Jenrett told him to do so.
What else would you expect from a (m)uslim sympathizer and a Jew hater. Too bad that here in this country way too many Jews lap up this socialistic crap, the same stuff what caused them to end up in Hitler’s concentration camps, and now way too many are gung ho for the same crap. Makes one wonder if people ever learn or if history has to repeat itself until they do.
The one thing I've learned from history is that those who want to be taken care of by a big and (in their minds automatically) benevolent government don't learn from history.
Remember an anarchist named Kerry met with communist Vietnam in Paris which precipitated congress pulling funding for US troops fighting in Vietnam. He effectively gave away South Vietnam to the Vietcong, and he had no official standing. He loves this type meeting where he can do so much damage to the US. Congress then was scared out of their wits of the revolutionary groups all across the country - not much different from a bunch of congress persons today - afraid of their shadows. Kerry is dumb and dangerous.
Not just that.
It’s part of his ideological world view. He must CHANGE America, he must CHANGE the world to his vision.
He’s on a roll and he can’t stop no matter how destructive his policies are to America, the West and our allies like Israel.
When the billionaires have what they want, they'll stop paying them. Even Paul Ryan is too stupid to understand that as soon as Zuckerberg an GW Bush get the flood of illegals they want, they'll stop supporting Paul Ryan.
This is a Threat Matrix list documenting threats within and without. Anyone wanting on or off please advise.
-——Why are Obama and Kerry so eager——
They are pacifist cowards.
They are intent on proving that giving peace a chance will triumph over war . The goal is to polish the tarnished Obama name to historical respectability.
The fact that removing the tarnish is harmful doesn’t matter.
Those lies goes hand in hand with this Obama lie:
"US will 'do what we must' to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons"
Zounds! Quite a record he has built up:
1. Called foolish by JIMMY CARTER
2. Called cowardly by FRANCE
Make that 1917.
They actually fought well in the early days of the Great War.
“How far we have fallen!”
France played a key role in the founding of our country. People forget where the Statue of Liberty came from, and France plays second fiddle to no one in dealing with tyrannical monarchs.
Yeah they can be annoying in modern times, but I sure would hate for America to be forever judged by folks observing the obama regime and his milquetoast policies.
Bull frickin' crap...the negotiating position didn't 'collapse'...Obama/Kerry had no intention of protecting Israel or curbing Iran's nukes.
So now France is tough and America is a weak-assed punk (Obama). Thanks to Obama and millions of idiots who vote, the world is upside-down.
The French soldiers fought as bravely and fiercely as anyone. But the French Generalship was terrible, English generalship only slightly better. Had Pershing been made supreme commander the war would have ended in 1917 with a German surrender. Loses on both sides were simply terrible. Frontal assaults on machine gun emplacements was the rule. At least at Gettysburg American generals learned not to frontally assault strong positions if it could be avoided.
Obama foreign policy = Ron Paul foreign policy = suicide
I see no positive trend in France but rather a hickup of sanity appearing from time to time.
And I’ve had great interactions with some of the French Infantry guys. They’re very capable, when allowed by their political leaders and officers.
Agreed. Frenchman like DeToquville and Lafayette should never be mentioned in the same breath as anyone today who identifies themselves as a democRAT.
France is leading the fight against radical Islam.
The French are being brave... and acting with principle ... It’s time to put french snide comments away...
Described by someone (Winston Churchill?) as "Young men trying to wear-out machine guns with their chests".
Yes, the French charged real good into German machine guns...worth seeing Kubrick’s 1957 classic, Paths of Glory...
We are The New Sick Man of the world.
On a Veterans’ Day weekend, no less.