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‘Stand Your Ground’ and Warning Shots Survive Hearing (Florida, anti-gun forces lose again)
The Root ^ | November 8, 2013 | Stephen A. Crockett, Jr.

Posted on 11/08/2013 7:04:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Grace Miranda and other supporters of Trayvon Martin rally in front of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio’s office to ask him to retract his support for the state’s “Stand your ground” gun law in April 2012.

A panel of Florida lawmakers shot down a proposal to repeal the state's "Stand your ground" law but approved an amendment to allow immunity for those who fire a warning shot, the Tampa Bay Times reports.

Nearly 300 people attended the vote to give their opinion on the controversial law that has been in the national spotlight and under intense scrutiny since the shooting of Trayvon Martin and the 20-year prison sentence for Marissa Alexander, a battered wife who fired a single warning shot to scare her abusive husband.

The hearing, which was held before the House Criminal Justice Subcommittee, lasted five hours, the Tampa Bay Times reports.

Rep. Alan Williams, a Tallahassee Democrat, said his push to repeal "Stand your ground" was rooted in trying to make sure "we keep our streets and our communities and our neighborhoods safe," the Tampa Bay Times reports. "We have had a number of cases that have shown us over and over that the law as adopted in 2005 isn't working," Williams said.

The committee rejected the repeal bill in a 2-11 vote.

Democratic Rep. Katie Edwards, a supporter of the law, said, "The people I represent, the people we represent, need not be required, or have imposed upon them, a duty to retreat ... I won't turn my back on responsible self-defense laws."

While the committee upheld "Stand your ground," it did file a separate bill after Alexander's sentencing that would ensure people who fired a warning shot would not be subject to the minimum-mandatory sentencing.....

(Excerpt) Read more at theroot.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; blacks; democrats; florida; marissaalexander; selfdefense; standyourground; trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 11/08/2013 7:04:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The People of the State of Florida have trumped a thugee’s mama.

I sincerely hope that all of those pictured, have that great Olympic-sprinting recorded response time of the militarized cops, maybe work for them. If not, don’t blame the rest of the population of Florida, and if you survive, MOVE!!!


2 posted on 11/08/2013 7:09:16 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The People of the State of Florida have trumped a thugee’s mama.

I sincerely hope that all of those pictured, have that great Olympic-sprinting recorded response time of the militarized cops, maybe work for them. If not, don’t blame the rest of the population of Florida, and if you survive, MOVE!!!


3 posted on 11/08/2013 7:09:36 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe Mossad Ayoob has ever approved warning shots.

That gun is supposed to be used as a last resort/lethal force measure, not a show of force.


4 posted on 11/08/2013 7:11:38 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ahh, the usual suspects are out and about... the perpetually aggrieved and outraged...

but...

We win another one.


5 posted on 11/08/2013 7:17:52 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trying to make sure “we keep our streets and our communities and our neighborhoods safe” for barbarian children.


6 posted on 11/08/2013 7:18:22 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Antihero101607

VP Biden recommends warning shots.


7 posted on 11/08/2013 7:19:01 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

That’s correct, straight from that clowns face hole


8 posted on 11/08/2013 7:29:43 PM PST by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there’s a criminal who has ill intent towards you.

you have no idea.

he or she is armed. so are you.

why is the burden to retreat only placed on the person with no ill will, who is about to be ambushed or surprised walking into their home, on top of figuring out what the hell is going on, to try to retreat before defending themselves?

assinine.


9 posted on 11/08/2013 8:27:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NFHale

[We win another one.]

Great news!!!


10 posted on 11/08/2013 8:41:14 PM PST by Islander2
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To: Antihero101607

When the Police ask, remember that you did not fire a warning shot. You were trying to shoot the guy and you missed.


11 posted on 11/08/2013 11:30:53 PM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Antihero101607

The first warning shot goes to the head of the threat. The second and third warning shots to center of mass. The remaining ten warning shots go to the center of mass of any associated perps. Reload and assess the situation for safe passage, using cover.

Only draw weapon if in fear for your life and it becomes necessary to defend with lethal force.


12 posted on 11/09/2013 3:21:40 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Warning Shots?

They are deadly, never fire a gun without a clearly defined target, you might as well shout, I have a gun and good luck with that.

In most instances when using a weapon for self defense the target will be from one to ten feet away... Think About It!

Warning shots are almost as stupid as Joe Biden.


13 posted on 11/09/2013 3:22:57 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Antihero101607
I don’t believe Mossad Ayoob has ever approved warning shots. That gun is supposed to be used as a last resort/lethal force measure, not a show of force.

While basically correct, there are times when a warning shot might be appropriate and end up defusing the situation without loss of life. Situational awareness is key - some folks will remain hostile and belligerent even if they see that you are armed, but will do a quick rethink at the very loud and distinct sound of the explosion propelling a chunk of metal out of the "prop". Without such immunities as FL implemented, you can be jailed for trying to keep from killing someone while staying free for putting a hole in them. I prefer the choice of how to proceed.

14 posted on 11/09/2013 4:15:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandra Solzhenitsyn

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15 posted on 11/09/2013 5:08:43 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Islander2

Every one we win is one less the other side gets, and sets them back further.

Revel in it.


16 posted on 11/09/2013 5:26:50 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good!! So much for Obama’s son, thug, gangsta, criminal, druggie, Trayvon Martin!!! Bye....Obamabots!!!


17 posted on 11/09/2013 5:38:04 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Antihero101607; 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t believe Mossad Ayoob has ever approved warning shots.

That gun is supposed to be used as a last resort/lethal force measure, not a show of force.

Agreed. I've had some on this board disagree with me, but to me Ayoob is the zen master of defending yourself without having to spend time in jail.

18 posted on 11/09/2013 5:42:07 AM PST by Hardastarboard (You can keep your doctor - if you lock him in your basement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Anti-gun” is a poor soundbite, “Anti-self defense” is much better.


19 posted on 11/09/2013 7:37:34 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Elle Bee

I’ve read that quote a thousand times, and then I realize that Conservatism Inc. is nothing but a money grubbing racket that peddles the useless tactic of screeching at Obama 24/7 and never taking an axe handle to the knees of his enablers and voters.


20 posted on 11/09/2013 7:44:36 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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