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Ban on Discrimination Against Gays Gains Ground in Senate
New York Times ^ | October 30, 2013 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 10/30/2013 12:32:54 PM PDT by lbryce

Senator Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, said Wednesday that he would vote for a nondiscrimination bill that protects gay men, lesbians and transgender people, putting the measure within one vote of gaining the support it needs to overcome a filibuster.

Mr. Manchin was the only Democrat who had not signaled how he would vote. His support means that all 55 members of the Democratic majority are expected to get behind the bill, known as the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, which has languished in various forms in Congress for nearly 40 years. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, could bring it to the floor as early as next week.

“There’s no way that I could ever not support something that basically bans discrimination,” Mr. Manchin said. “There’s no way. It’s just a fundamental right.”

Four Republicans have also expressed support, meaning there are now 59 senators who are on record as favoring the measure. Sixty votes are needed to overcome a filibuster.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; gayrights; homosexualagenda
I say, enough of this pussyfooting around. I believe the time has come to give gays, the LGBT freak show, rights and privileges above and beyond that of the typical, straight, heterosexual WHITE citizen, entitling the whole stinking lot of them to a special elevated status of rights and privileges, like the caste system in India. Hopefully, only then will they finally get to STFU.
1 posted on 10/30/2013 12:32:54 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
You mean gays etc aren't already protected from discrimination?

Or are the leftists/statists simply saying the usual buzzwords but passing another law that gives more special privileges to a very lucrative constituency of theirs?

I think we know whats happening here.

2 posted on 10/30/2013 12:35:34 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lbryce

They will never be quiet until you are in Hell with them forever.


3 posted on 10/30/2013 12:35:57 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: lbryce

Some people are more “equal” than others and need their own laws.


4 posted on 10/30/2013 12:36:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Have you had your ObamaCare Marketplace shopping experience today?)
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To: lbryce
This is the straight people discrimination act.
5 posted on 10/30/2013 12:38:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: lbryce

I was duped into sending the creep money just because he was running against Arlo Sphincter.


6 posted on 10/30/2013 12:39:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: lbryce

Sodomy must be celebrated.

Let the folks in Louisiana know that, Mary Landrieu.


7 posted on 10/30/2013 12:39:29 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: lbryce
Straight?

Why use their language? You are normal. If you are straight, then they are bent, warped or crooked.

8 posted on 10/30/2013 12:41:42 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: skeeter
You mean gays etc aren't already protected from discrimination?

Gays are not protected from discrimination in employment under federal law. They are in some states, but by no means all.

9 posted on 10/30/2013 12:42:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: lbryce

Now these Democrats and a few RINOS will force down the throats of every Christian a law that will in it self make being a real Christian against the law.

Will Christians be sent to prison for not accepting homosexuality and firing gays from a workplace or refusing to sell products or services to gays?

How can Christians be good Christians if they cannot practice their religion?


10 posted on 10/30/2013 12:43:17 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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11 posted on 10/30/2013 12:44:26 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: lbryce

Rarely do I and the NY Times agree but Manchin is a turd.


12 posted on 10/30/2013 12:44:50 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Oliviaforever

That’s the whole point of the whole “gay rights” thing.

The left couldn’t give two shakes about the plight of “gay” people.

But they sure are an effective tool to get Christianity criminalized.

And THAT is the goal.


13 posted on 10/30/2013 12:46:30 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
On second thought I guess its still not illegal for a Catholic school to refuse to hire a gay man in drag.

Looks like congress & Obama will soon fix that.

14 posted on 10/30/2013 12:50:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: MrB

Exactly.

We have already read stories about Christian bakers who have been sued for not wanting to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Now we will see all kinds of prosecutions of Christians who happen to be lawyers, plumbers, cab drivers or doctors who will be prosecuted for standing up for their Christian beliefs and not servicing gays and lesbians.

Christians will not be able to fire employees for being gay.

What happened to the First Amendment?


15 posted on 10/30/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: deadrock
You know, you remind of something I saw years ago on the Phil Donno'ho' Pukefest similar to what you made reference to that really enraged me.

Philly was doing his typical gay topic interview program with several of homo-land's star activists. This flaming fairy would go into the mostly normal crowd and asked each individual he got to speak with, are you gay or non-gay?

Needless to say, I nearly kicked the TV screen in.

16 posted on 10/30/2013 12:55:25 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Because you must employ sexual deviants in your workplace, or else you will be sued and have your business destroyed.

Let’s stop pretending that Americans have freedom.


17 posted on 10/30/2013 12:56:04 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: lbryce; All

The states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights. So Congress has no 14th Amendment authority to make laws to protect such “rights.”


18 posted on 10/30/2013 12:56:12 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: lbryce

Republicans ready to help democrats create another federally recognized and funded victim group with rights and protections superior to lowly common folk who are white, heterosexual or working taxpayers.


19 posted on 10/30/2013 12:58:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; skeeter
Gays are not protected from discrimination in employment under federal law. They are in some states, but by no means all.

So tell me, why should I be forced to hire "Gay" people when I KNOW, I can't trust them and I know they are morally incorrect?
20 posted on 10/30/2013 1:09:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Amendment10
So Congress has no 14th Amendment authority to make laws to protect such “rights.”

Unfortunately, that is not the way the country is being run.

Back in 1982 when Congress voted to cut off GI Bill Education benefits for flight training, I called my senator's office.

ME: "Why did you do this?"

Senator's office: "Oh, Congress believes that some people are just using the flight training for joy-riding."

Me: "So, how many guys go to college on their GI Bill to drink beer, chase girls & party?"

"How can you do this? This is a contract I signed in 1967. I go fight your war, you pay for my education, INCLUDING flight training. I have fulfilled my half of the contract. How can Congress now renege on your half?"

Senator's office: "Well, we know it's a bum deal, but basically, CONGRESS CAN DO ANYTHING IT WANTS TO!"

21 posted on 10/30/2013 1:10:04 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: lbryce

I’ve never heard of anyone getting fired because they’re gay. I’ve never heard of any employment application asking if the applicant was gay. This law is for one reason. And that’s so gays can “act” gay at the workplace.

Every privately owned company should be able to hire, or not hire, anyone they please. If some little cafe in some podunk town doesn’t want to serve blacks, that’s the owner’s decision. And see how long he stays in business. Decisions will be based on profits.

There’s a small town in Arkansas where blacks were boycotting the white owned businesses. The white business owners put out flyers saying “To the good black people from the good white people”.....basically begging them to come back. It didn’t work. Of course now most of the little towns in the South are dead anyway. I just drove through a lot of dead ones.


22 posted on 10/30/2013 1:10:43 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: BwanaNdege; All
Unfortunately, that is not the way the country is being run.

Unfortutnately, voters are not being taught the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.

23 posted on 10/30/2013 1:21:10 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: lbryce

Being a pervert is a choice. Just like being a drunk or a drug addict is.
I do not accept drunk or drug addicts and I will never accept perverts.
Adding perverts to discrimination laws is a slap in the face to those that really need them.


24 posted on 10/30/2013 1:22:55 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: lbryce

The House has to kill this. It’s fascism, plain and simple. They want access to your children.


25 posted on 10/30/2013 1:32:43 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: lbryce

The crosshairs are swinging round to focus on churches if this passes.


26 posted on 10/30/2013 1:43:48 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lbryce

Too bad businesses just hired and fired people based on their experience and job performance. It is really stupid for a company to get involved in black, hispanic, and other specialty groups. Just hire the best and be done with it. Fire those who do not meet expectations. Very simple.


27 posted on 10/30/2013 2:05:57 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: lbryce
“There’s no way that I could ever not support something that basically bans discrimination,” Mr. Manchin said. “There’s no way. It’s just a fundamental right.”

Wrong, Manchin. Discrimination IS a right. Free people have a RIGHT to passively, peacefully discriminate AGAINST individuals they perceive as "immoral," and they have the God-given right to discrminate against them in business and social life. Only a leftist tyrannical government would presume a "right" on the part of homosexuals to be protected "from" such discrimination of a status the homosexuals themselves choose to disclose; they could instead remain discreet and be immune to discrimination.

Would these liberals be so hot to trot for enacting into law punishment for discriminating AGAINST redneck right wing gun nuts? What about places where they refuse to hire conservatives? Where are people like Manchin, who despises descrimination so, in the case of liberal news media refusing to hire conservative reporters?

Yet indeed, those businesses have a right to discriminate against conservatives, just like they have a right to discriminate in favor or homosexuals. The thing is, businesses also have a God-given right to discriminate in the other direction, but man-made leftist LAW punishes them for that particular kind of discrimination.

Gay "rights" isn't about bequeathing rights, it's about DENYING rights. Every person alive has the God-given right to make moral discriminations in their lives. These liberal leftists seek to use government to deprive people of those rights.

28 posted on 10/30/2013 2:17:04 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: frogjerk

The Gay Nazis are at it again with grandstanders or closet gay senators trying to pass legislation to try and criminalize normal people’s aversion to their mental illness. Oh what fun it is to criminalize thoughts. If we could only build a mindreading machine then we could give out tickets to those who hate us and solve all of our tax shortages! Whee!


29 posted on 10/30/2013 2:34:01 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“Gays are not protected from discrimination in employment under federal law. They are in some states, but by no means all.”

I have the answer (and so does Washington). Make ALL laws Federal. Let’s stop playing this charade of State’s Rights and State Law once and for all.


30 posted on 10/30/2013 2:46:33 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat
I have the answer (and so does Washington). Make ALL laws Federal. Let’s stop playing this charade of State’s Rights and State Law once and for all.

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Are you joking?

31 posted on 10/30/2013 2:50:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Half Joking.

But wouldn’t anyone with any observation skills the last 20 years agree that the Feds dictate everything and allow the State/Local laws to handle the issues they don’t care about - yet.

I still don’t know why anyone takes serious any Voter Propositions anymore. If the Feds don’t like it, their Courts will axe the voter’s will.


32 posted on 10/30/2013 2:56:01 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: lbryce
Great.....wait until a drag queen wants a construction job and doesn't get hired because its sequin floor gown would be dangerous on the job. Automatic lawsuit for discrimination.

The democrats love giving lawyers new things to sue over.

33 posted on 10/30/2013 3:01:46 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: roofgoat
"Yesterday the greatest question was decided which ever was debated in America;
and a greater perhaps never was, nor will be, decided among men.
A resolution was passed without one dissenting colony, that these United Colonies are,
and of right ought to be, free and independent States."

~John Adams


34 posted on 10/30/2013 3:05:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lbryce

I doubt that this will pass. Demonic-rats had the House, Senate, and the White Hut for 2 years and didn’t pass ENDA - I really don’t think that they want to. They just want to put on a groveling show.


35 posted on 10/30/2013 4:38:55 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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