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Big business declares war on tea party
Washington Times ^ | MONDAY OCTOBER 28, 2913 | Patrice Hill

Posted on 10/29/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The recent fiscal crisis has opened a major rift between the tea party wing of the Republican Party and business groups that traditionally have backed Republicans, with many business leaders now vowing to get involved more in GOP primaries to try to counter insurgent candidates.

Tea party leaders are defiant, saying they will not change course despite criticism from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable and other top business groups.

But business leaders argue that the scorched-earth tactics used by tea party Republicans during the 16-day shutdown and debate over raising the federal government’s borrowing limit marked the fourth time since the GOP took control of the House in 2011 that tea party adherents precipitated a governmental crisis that zapped consumer and business confidence, raised uncertainty and exerted a major drag on economic growth.

Besides encouraging more business-friendly candidates in primary contests, business groups are rallying behind establishment Republicans such as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican who is being targeted by tea party activists for brokering a deal to temporarily raise the debt ceiling and reopen the government, while launching a negotiation with Democrats over budget cuts and proposed tax and entitlement reforms.

Business executives agree with many tea party goals such as cutting the deficit and reforming entitlement spending, but they argue that conservative lawmakers have erred in their tactics and wounded the economy by driving the government with increasing frequency into states of crisis and dysfunction — this time for the ultimately unsuccessful cause of trying to force President Obama to cancel his health care law.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigbusiness; elections; teaparty
When some of Rush's sponsors turned on him, he cut them off. When they wanted to return as sponsors, no dice, he'd already found replacements.

We can refuse to buy products from businesses that fight Tea Party candidates and we can donate to Tea Party candidates. And get out the vote!!

1 posted on 10/29/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Texas GOP Poll: ‘Tea Party’ challenger beats Cornyn 46% to 33%
2 posted on 10/29/2013 7:28:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Dump Carbonite...... former sponsor

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iDrive currently a sponsor on Limbaugh.

3 posted on 10/29/2013 7:30:04 AM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Buy American.

That’s the best rule.

:D


4 posted on 10/29/2013 7:30:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I already avoid GE due to their collusion w/the gov’t to get rid of cheap lightbulbs (incandescants).

The businesses against the Tea Party are probably those who like the pay-to-play circle of gov’t blackmail and market-fixing.


5 posted on 10/29/2013 7:31:31 AM PDT by fruser1
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6 posted on 10/29/2013 7:31:44 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The “Business Roundtable” list of “members” looks like a “Whose-Who” of “Crony Captialists”:
http://businessroundtable.org/about-us/members/


7 posted on 10/29/2013 7:33:06 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Earlier post of same article - missed it 'cause title was different.
8 posted on 10/29/2013 7:33:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Gopes are really getting their panties in a bunch, to use expression.

It’s not good or funny though.

“they argue that conservative lawmakers have erred in their tactics...”

This is their main claim, that their animosity is purelynpragmatic.

But next time anyone says that, just ask if President Romney agrees?

People should call up Gope radio shows and say, “we need to run the most conservative candidate there is who can win. — and President Romney agreees.

Bottom line, Tea Party wins elections, Gope loses.


9 posted on 10/29/2013 7:35:59 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Tea Party declares war on dirty liars


10 posted on 10/29/2013 7:36:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Does anyone remember the Chick-Fil-A event?
I wonder how many millions $ they made when the people poured into the restaurants to support them against the media thugs.
Just let big business try to intimidate the TEA party.
WE ARE the TEA party.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 7:43:18 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This situation is much like that faced by George Washington's finest subordinate general, Benedict Arnold.

In those days, big shots in Congress hated Arnold for much the same reasons establishment Republicans can't stand Sarah Palin today.

Best source for Arnold's history can be found in several Kenneth Roberts historical novels and in Willard Randall's 668 page biography titled "Benedict Arnold, Patriot anf Traitor."

12 posted on 10/29/2013 7:44:53 AM PDT by OldNavyVet ("Learn from science that you must doubt the experts" ... Richard Feynman)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They can join the Rats who will pick their pockets clean.

The problem with these “business” people is that they just want to increase their bottom line short-term, so they can get bonuses and exercise their stock options.

They don’t give a damn about their companies in the long-term, or the nation’s future.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 7:46:05 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As for me, i will vote for the tea party candidates, i have heard of the chamber of commerce most of my life but really don,t even know what they do.

Are they just like the unions? making a bunch jobs and money for themselves by organizing and controlling every one else?


14 posted on 10/29/2013 7:48:47 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Looks like someones worried about their rice bowel
15 posted on 10/29/2013 7:50:05 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: 9422WMR
11 Does anyone remember the Chick-Fil-A event? I wonder how many millions $ they made when the people poured into the restaurants to support them against the media thugs. ...

One article I read said a consulting firm estimated that the average Chick-fil-A restaurant had 29.9 % more sales and 367 more customers than on a typical Wednesday.

This fight is for the long haul, not 1 day.

16 posted on 10/29/2013 7:57:44 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The TEA Party ain’t the welfare crowd, we’re the makers. We have the money to choose where it is spent.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 7:57:54 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ok. Let’s get together a list.

The holiday season approaches.


18 posted on 10/29/2013 7:58:47 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
zapped consumer and business confidence, raised uncertainty and exerted a major drag on economic growth.

Ummmm......I'm guessing that they are also up in arms about the fact that the US Government has not passed a full year budget since 2009, 2010? No? Hmmmm.....
19 posted on 10/29/2013 8:06:17 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Big business and big government go hand and hand. The big business can afford to hire armies of lawyers and accountants to get around taxes and regulations. The small start up, not so much. All business hate competition , and big business really doesn't like the small innovators (think IBM and the early days of Apple). With big government as an ally, a big corporation can keep out the competition.

Let's say you were a small company making cheap light bulbs, well you couldn't do it because of EPA regs, OTOH GE can afford a plant in China to make more expensive CFR bulbs. Who do you think benefits and who is hurt by big gvt in that scenario ?

20 posted on 10/29/2013 8:07:19 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: 9422WMR

Yes, I think we should schedule a repeat performance of support for Chick-fil-a to remind them. And another at Hobby Lobby.


21 posted on 10/29/2013 8:10:28 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Black Agnes

Looking at that list of members, I’d say it will be easiest to list who we CAN buy from. For instance, Walmart and Target are both out, so does that mean Shopko is OK?

Express Scripts is what is with our insurance (so far anyway), so I don’t know if we have any option, except maybe the local pharmacy but Express Scripts gets its money from Blue Cross’ subscription to their services, and they get the money whether we use their service or not. If I understand correctly.

I’ve been wanting to move our loan for a long time but we don’t know how long we’re going to be here or whether we’d pay off the cost to move the loan before we leave.

Stuff to think about.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 8:11:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They may have bucks, we have votes.


23 posted on 10/29/2013 8:11:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: Robe
Looks like someones worried about their rice bowel

Huh? Is there some kind of a rice bowel movement I've not heard of?

24 posted on 10/29/2013 8:11:38 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (DEAD: Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods...killed by FObama and BHillery)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These “big businesses” are only interested in themselves and playing nice with the liberals. They are not on the same team with us.


25 posted on 10/29/2013 8:11:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Dems and GOPe promise these pigs MORE govt spending in return for contributions.

Tea Party politicians should promise them LESS CUTS in government spending for contributions.

The present level of spending just can’t be continued. Cuts have to be made. The biggest impediment to cuts is the business and media support for politicians who support raiding the economy to increase consumer spending.


26 posted on 10/29/2013 8:19:42 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
scorched-earth tactics

tea party adherents precipitated a governmental crisis that zapped consumer and business confidence, raised uncertainty and exerted a major drag on economic growth.

Here goes the myth making of the MSM and GOPe. There was no scorched-earth tactic. The TEA Party had several good fallback positions. It was the GOPe, Democrat-controlled Senate and Pres. Obama that refused to deal.

The crisis was imaginary and a political construct designed by Obama and the Democrats to maximize pain and uncertainty. It was Obama and the Democrats that talked down the economy, raised uncertainty and made a standard budget debate into a mess.

The final item is going to be a big talking point and it is a myth that we need to destroy right now. What drag on the economy?

Don't let them get away with these lies. The biggest drag on the economy is fiscal policy that: 1. distorts incentives via taxation and subsidies; 2. spends more than we get in tax receipts; 3. misallocates capital in the productive economy; and 4. wastes money in the public sector on political pork projects.

The proper response is to: 1. end the distortions via mandates (ethanol, etc.), bureaucratic overreach (rain water and CO2 as pollutants?), and taxation/subsidies (simplify the tax code & reduce tax burdens on productive activities); 2. Balance the budget (Ryan's plan is a training wheels program, but if that's what you can pass, then pass that and cut again when we've got a majority or a President); 3. reduce burdensome regulations on industry (jobs, jobs, jobs); and 4. Attack the basic waste we see in government (Obama had to work to make Americans miserable at 90% government, that proves we can reduce discretionary spending immediately) and rein in entitlements (SS reform, Medicare and Medicaid etc.)

There's been an explosion in the "disabled" and that needs to stop. We need to win the WH and use the Commerce Clause aggressively to end non-compete laws at the state and local level. It can be done, but you have to win. That means working with RINOs and Democrats on areas of agreement.

27 posted on 10/29/2013 8:32:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 9422WMR
WE ARE the TEA party.

Indeed. Those who talk about "stopping the Tea Party" are idiots. There is no "Tea Party". We are the Electorate. In many districts we are a supermajority. Run your little puppet RINO candidates in those districts and watch them lose.

28 posted on 10/29/2013 8:42:44 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: Black Agnes; Cincinatus' Wife
We are sitting this one out. When my wife asked me what I wanted for Christmas, I said "Christmas." No malls, no big box hellstores, no catalogs, no internet, just good food (sourced locally, of course) family, friends and Jesus.

We are thinking of making it a permanent tradition.

29 posted on 10/29/2013 8:47:13 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: jboot

Us too for the most part.

I would like to know if there are food manufacturers I should avoid though. Just to be consistent. We do have a holiday meal with trimmings for family and do a bit of baking and candy making for gifts.


30 posted on 10/29/2013 8:49:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This situation is simply another in a long list of mythology about the tea party supporters that is being used to court business donors and savage Dem opposition. When a party has a propaganda engine of the size and viciousness that the Dem party has, the truth is irrelevant. Business will face gross revenue pressures because a nation that is on the dole is not a nation of good customers. The working people of America, who comprise tea party supporters, is losing income to the socialist fed govt. That weakens bus revenues.

I just received a short briefing from a bus specialist who reports a year-over-year decline of about 20-30 percent in retail sales of home maintenance products in a very blue-state are of the US. This is a repeat of the prior year’s declines and reflects economic pressures that should not exist in the US. There should be strong economic growth after the disastrous declines of a few years ago. This country is in seriously bad shape. Young people who don’t know what normal American prosperity is are facing mediocre jobs opportunities and strained prospects for economic success. The situation is bad and needlessly so. Tea party principles are counter that situation—that needs to be made clear and repeated continuously.


31 posted on 10/29/2013 8:57:00 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The loss of wealth during the “shutdown” often touted by the left is ephemeral if not chimerical. The real damage is appearing in lost health insurance, higher taxes, and a perpetual suppression of economic growth.

The tea party and its supporters, whether in DC or in regular America, were right. Business would be wise to court these new leaders and consider a more hopeful future for their companies.

The left’s propaganda engine can attack us all they want, and they will attack mercilessly, but you can’t avoid facts forever. We were, and are, right.


32 posted on 10/29/2013 9:02:23 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

OOOOppppppsies... Bowel = Bowl


33 posted on 10/29/2013 9:33:19 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“They don’t give a damn about their companies in the long-term, or the nation’s future.”

...that about sums it up!


34 posted on 10/29/2013 9:59:01 AM PDT by mr_hammer (A man becomes truly great when he realizes who always walks beside him.)
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To: Black Agnes
I would like to know if there are food manufacturers I should avoid though. Just to be consistent.

By my way of thinking, if it has more than one layer of packaging, put it back. If you employ that method you'll find yourself avoiding a lot of companies.

35 posted on 10/29/2013 10:03:34 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: jboot

We pretty much do that already.

We don’t have pigs or dairy cows in the backyard though.

Bacon is its own food group you know.


36 posted on 10/29/2013 10:04:30 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem isn’t so much “Big Business” as its Globalist Corporations run by men who see themselves as global citizens, hate nationalism and hate American nationalists most of all.


37 posted on 10/29/2013 10:36:02 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Black Agnes

LOL, bacon. MMMM.


38 posted on 10/29/2013 10:45:08 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Big Business = Democrats. Large corporations give equally to both parties, and lean towards those in power. Small business tends to be more conservative.


39 posted on 10/29/2013 11:00:20 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: US Navy Vet

I took a quick look at their site, went to the News section & this was right on top:

“Bottom Line: America’s Business Leaders Continue Push for Immigration Reform”

I think we need a Tea Party campaign to let them know we will not be silenced!


40 posted on 10/29/2013 12:19:25 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: US Navy Vet

It looks like all the big Insurance companies are members or the Business Roundtable as well as all the big banks.


41 posted on 10/29/2013 1:46:52 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

GM too?


42 posted on 10/29/2013 2:30:44 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They fight us harder than they ever fight Liberal Democrats


43 posted on 10/29/2013 3:05:26 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Comments at site are not sympathetic to big business.


44 posted on 10/29/2013 4:32:52 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anybody with at least half a brain should know that the 16-day shutdown likely meant that government workers were pumping out fewer regulations during that time. In case this is news to anybody (apparently it is to the Chamber of Commerce): excessive regulations drive up prices for consumers and dramatically hurt small businesses. The Chamber used to care about that sort of thing...


45 posted on 10/29/2013 8:16:34 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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