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California resident: ‘I was all for Obamacare’ until I got the bill
The Washington Times ^ | October 28, 2013 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 10/28/2013 8:58:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

California residents are rebelling a bit against Obamacare, with thousands shocked by the sticker price and rethinking their support, saying that what seemed wonderful in principle is not translating so well into reality.

As Pam Kehaly, the president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, reported, she received a letter from one woman who saw her insurance rates rise by 50 percent due to Obamacare.

“She said, ‘I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,’ ” Ms. Kehaly said, in the Los Angeles Times.

Several hundred thousand other Californians in coming weeks may be feeling the same pinch, as insurers drop their plans and push them onto exchanges, medical analysts say. Blue Shield of California sent letters to 119,000 residents last month announcing the plans don’t meet federal mandates.

Kaiser Permanente, meanwhile, is canceling about 160,000 of its customers’ plans — about half of its base, the Los Angeles Times said. A majority of those who are being booted off their plans will face a rate increase from Obamacare.

“This is when the actualy sticker shock comes into play for people,” said Gerald Kominski, director of the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research, in the Los Angeles Times. “There are winners and losers under the Affordable Care Act.”

Jennifer Harris, Fullerton resident, said she was shocked to receive a letter from her Health Net Inc. insurer that her plan — which costs $98 a month — was being dropped. The cheapest plan she said in the Los Angeles Times that she found is $238 a month....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine; zerocare
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1 posted on 10/28/2013 8:58:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was for it before I was against it!


2 posted on 10/28/2013 8:59:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow man, I thought it was free. Total bummer!


3 posted on 10/28/2013 8:59:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

.......if you voted for Obama you are getting what you richly deserve. Indeed, millions of conservatives who saw this sob for what he was/is are so happy to see justice finally come to some Obama LIV’s. write your damn check and shut up! Or, do without!


4 posted on 10/28/2013 9:04:12 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What are the percentages that the ‘I was all for Obamascare before I found out I had to pay for it’ crowd will vote for the democRats no matter what? 99.9%?

BTW, love the pix.

5 posted on 10/28/2013 9:04:56 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody deserves a train pulled on there wallet like a Kalifornian....


7 posted on 10/28/2013 9:08:34 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another of the myriad aspects of this ridiculousness that people gave up their thinking to Daddy-O on, but they could’ve come up with easy with just a two step of logic was this:

There is one thing doctors reject and refuse to do more than administration and are equally as bad or worse at is that they LOATHE being told what to do and, more so, how to do it.

They won’t stand for it.


9 posted on 10/28/2013 9:13:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: headstamp 2

Stupid idiots.


10 posted on 10/28/2013 9:14:50 PM PDT by bergmeid (Resist we much!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was planning to be a worthless taking parasite sucking from my host, but now I find out I have to pay for the blood.


12 posted on 10/28/2013 9:19:02 PM PDT by lurk
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14 posted on 10/28/2013 9:21:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: headstamp 2
It’s hell being a low information voter.

My Dad always said "An education is expensive, no matter how you get it."

16 posted on 10/28/2013 9:30:33 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sort of like: “I was for gun control until there were riots in the streets. Then suddenly the 15-day waiting periods didn’t seem like such a hot idea.”


17 posted on 10/28/2013 9:36:59 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“My Dad always said “An education is expensive, no matter how you get it.”

Your pop is a wise man.


18 posted on 10/28/2013 9:37:28 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: lurk
I was planning to be a worthless taking parasite sucking from my host, but now I find out I have to pay for the blood.

Otherwise known as:

"It's bad enough that I have to drop trou and bend over for Obama - NOW I find out that I have to pay for the Vaseline ..."

19 posted on 10/28/2013 9:37:58 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another libtard mugged by reality.


21 posted on 10/28/2013 9:45:04 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: tumblindice

The problem with Marxism is someone has to pay for it and it usually ends up being you.

Pray America is Waking Up


22 posted on 10/28/2013 9:45:26 PM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: headstamp 2

“She said, ‘I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,’ ” Ms. Kehaly said, in the Los Angeles Times.”

It’s hell being a parasite- then becoming the host


23 posted on 10/28/2013 9:48:07 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“She said, ‘I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,’ ” Ms. Kehaly said, in the Los Angeles Times.

Liberal compassion ... "I don't care if others suffer as long as I don't. I'm against suffering personally." - Ms. Kehaly

24 posted on 10/28/2013 9:51:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I will be shocked if the Democrats lose big in 2014, even with this Train Wreck front and center. My faith in the Electorate is still at a low ebb.


I agree.


25 posted on 10/28/2013 9:51:57 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: stanne
There is one thing doctors reject and refuse to do more than administration and are equally as bad or worse at is that they LOATHE being told what to do and, more so, how to do it.

They won’t stand for it.

After going through 10 years of rigorous schooling and training and spending or borrowing tens of thousands of dollars to do it I wouldn't stand for it either. Who would?

26 posted on 10/28/2013 9:59:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

What about thoses of us who voted against Obama, and did everything in our power to stop this great injustice?

When will we ever see justice? Don’t theses Obama voters Owe us retribution? Shoulden’t Obama voters be forced to pick up the tab for our exploding bills?


27 posted on 10/28/2013 10:04:35 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: TigersEye

No one.

They are not looking at this.


28 posted on 10/28/2013 10:07:02 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Nope they won’t put up with it. My father was a family practice GP who passed in ‘86. About six years before that he told me “socialized medicine will destroy medicine.” He saw it coming then and knew what it meant.


30 posted on 10/28/2013 10:13:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...and California dreamin' is becomin' a realityyyyyyyyy"
31 posted on 10/28/2013 10:16:02 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: TigersEye

Everybody will shrug and leave O’care an orphan.


32 posted on 10/28/2013 10:16:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“‘I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,’ ” Ms. Kehaly said.”

Howls, Bruce. Howls of derisive laughter.


33 posted on 10/28/2013 10:17:51 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Monorprise

“Shoulden’t Obama voters be forced to pick up the tab for our exploding bills?”

How about forfeiture of all assets, revocation of citizenship, and a one-way ticket to Abu Dhabi?


34 posted on 10/28/2013 10:22:00 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: tumblindice

35 posted on 10/28/2013 10:26:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: TigersEye

Americans are independent thinkers and socialized medicine will not work here.

MDs won’t sign up for it, patients won’t know what to do with it.

King BO can lecture all day long, but the payers will never get the whole pay for the free stuff people. It is a system that will not thrive here.

The Germans are go along and their government is efficient.

Anyone pretending that our government can act efficiently with this system is not paying attention. This group is so corrupt it can’t hire competent, ethical workers.

BO will be frustrated. It will not work here. He doesn’t know that, having grown up in Indonesia and thinking there are 57 states. Wonder if he’s been properly corrected on that yet.


36 posted on 10/28/2013 10:28:28 PM PDT by stanne
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think so. Five years ago I knew it was bound to fail but this last month has exceeded all of my wildest expectations of how badly it would stink.


37 posted on 10/28/2013 10:38:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: stanne
Well said and I agree 100%. I have to wonder if one single doctor is ready to implement the 1.8 million and growing words of the 0bamaCare regulations? Even a group practice would have to spend more on accountants and business analysts to set it up than they make in a year.

Another question that is bound to come up in the next few months; How many doctors are signed up to be part of the 0bamaCare network? I read yesterday that 0bamaCare plans are only good with doctors in the network.

38 posted on 10/28/2013 10:47:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Farnsworth

“Nobody deserves a train pulled on there wallet like a Kalifornian....”

I’m a fifth generation Californian. Are you talking
about me and the many thousands of other
FReeper Californians including our FR founders?

BTW.......there = their


39 posted on 10/28/2013 10:59:25 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: headstamp 2

“She said, ‘I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,’ ” Ms. Kehaly said, in the Los Angeles Times.”
It’s hell being a low information voter.


Sounds like Patti Davis (Reagan’s daughter) is also low information. She removed her tweet asking why she and others are losing their health care after receiving many answers from Reagan lovers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ronald-reagans-daughter-patti-davis-651261


40 posted on 10/28/2013 11:28:32 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this woman?

After all the condescending lectures and holier than thou I’ve had to endure for liberals and “moderates” in this Obamacare fight - this woman can KISS MY ASS.


41 posted on 10/28/2013 11:49:48 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Sivad

There was a photo put out on Yahoo the day of Reagan’s funeral.

The funeral procession/caravan was travelling through Southern California.

There was a young guy out working driving in his pickup and he had gotten out, up onto the bed and held his hand to his heart as the hearse passed.

Wish I’d saved it.


42 posted on 10/29/2013 12:18:42 AM PDT by stanne
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To: caww

constitution is missing form that interesting illustration


43 posted on 10/29/2013 12:20:26 AM PDT by stanne
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To: ThunderSleeps

“It’s hell being a low information voter.
My Dad always said “An education is expensive, no matter how you get it.”

“Life’s hard and it’s harder if you’re stupid”
John Wayne


44 posted on 10/29/2013 1:04:20 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DUDE.. Ya mean I like gotta PAY for something? When Nancy Pelosi said ‘pass it to find out what’s in it,’ I like thought we were gettin’ it free! Now I gotta like get a job and miss out on all those tasty waves at high tide!


45 posted on 10/29/2013 1:37:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Surprise!!!!
46 posted on 10/29/2013 1:48:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

In all my years here at FR, I can’t recall seeing a thread with so many “comments removed by Admin”. I feel like I missed something important. I wish I was here to see them in real time before getting pulled. LOL


47 posted on 10/29/2013 3:21:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"California resident: ‘I was all for Obamacare’ until I got the bill..."

As the kids say: "Own it, Bitches..."

48 posted on 10/29/2013 3:23:40 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: beethovenfan

“Another libtard mugged by reality.”

A lot of liberal whites thought Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mitt Romney, and Rush Limbaugh were going to pay for 100% of their health insurance AND health care costs. Now they are slowly discovering the truth. These stories have to spread far & wide before the mid-terms (to the point where no media blackout can conceal it).


49 posted on 10/29/2013 3:52:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What? I thought it was coming from the Money Tree?


50 posted on 10/29/2013 3:54:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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