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Is College Worth The Cost?
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2013 | Gannon LeBlanc

Posted on 10/28/2013 4:45:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: IamConservative

I will agree with you almost 100% but, in HVAC for instance if a building is down and the equipment inside is responsible for bank transactions, you’d better be damned able to trouble-shoot the electronics, fire dampers, shut off valves, chill water pressures and a host of other possibilities. Disaster is only a power surge away. A good HVAC Engineer is rare these days. I know this personally. You don’t go to trade school for this. That is all, carry on.


41 posted on 10/28/2013 6:54:32 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Netz
The big mistake goes back to the early 1970s, when shop classes were taken out of high schools. A lot of students who would've done much better in skilled trades than in college classes never even got to discover that. The reasoning was that regional vocational schools would fill that need, but it just hasn't worked that way. Then you've got junior colleges mostly into giving kids more academics, again when strictly vocational schools with courses included about running a business would be much more useful.

The way things are now, you've got unqualified and disinterested college students strangling job and education opportunities for those who belong there. Besides that, there aren't enough qualified to do real work.

Is college worth it? Not unless someone is paying the bill. Otherwise, it's best to take night courses, online courses, or whatever else ones budget can absorb. And learn a trade.

JMHO

42 posted on 10/28/2013 6:56:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: Kaslin

The more appropriate question is, “Can you afford not to go to college”...Considering that nowadays most jobs require some form of college degree?


43 posted on 10/28/2013 6:57:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

You don’t have to go to a big college. There are community colleges that are quite good


44 posted on 10/28/2013 7:04:51 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Netz

Actually, I’m in information systems. I was only in Biology to become a high school teacher. THAT was the wrong career choice, and that’s the danger of “picking a degree that sounds like a job.”


45 posted on 10/28/2013 7:06:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Netz

My college education, just 15 years ago, cost me a total of $40,000. TODAY, it would cost me $200,000.


46 posted on 10/28/2013 7:07:37 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Netz

I could never understand why everyone has to go to college. Not everyone is qualified for college and parents having the money to send their off-springs to college does not guarantee that they have the brain that is needed. There are plenty of educated idiots around anyway


47 posted on 10/28/2013 7:10:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Re: Art

—There are great Internet courses.

—Join local art societies for networking and learning about the business of art.

—Look for workshops done by artists that you admire.

—Take **very** carefully selected individual courses at the community college.

—Take **very** carefully selected individual courses at your local state university. ( A degree is entirely unnecessary!)

—If you go to an Atelier use **extreme** caution!!!
Find out how many have graduated from the atelier over the number of years they have been in business. If there are graduates ask how many are financially successful with art. (In my state the master of one atelier has been teaching for 15 years. He has had **ONE** person graduate from his program and this**ONE** person is flamingly unsuccessful.) Ask how long did it take on average for students to graduate. In the case of this atelier it took that **ONE** person 10 years.

48 posted on 10/28/2013 7:15:52 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Kaslin

Today’s kid should be labeled: Generation DEBT!

Both of my sons graduated from college with ZERO debt... thanks to a little scholarship money and a LOT of sacrificing from their mother and I. We’re PROUD that we were able to do it.

Now, however.... as they are working and going about the business of trying to find wives, they keep running into roadblocks. They meet a cute girl, buy her a few drinks, and then ask, “How much student debt do you have?” (Boy! Have the questions changed since I was young!)

The answers, are amazing.... very often, $30- 50k. Many of these, girls now working in retail. My oldest son USED to say he wouldn’t consider dating ANY girl with debt. Now? He’s raised his limit to $10k. I think, we’ll be LUCKY to find one with less than $20k.

All our hard work, to get them started in life without a mountain of debt, will be undone when the right pheremones hit their mid-20 brains. :-(


49 posted on 10/28/2013 7:37:54 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Netz

I know several electricians and plumbers that earn very good money, set their own hours, and will probably never run out of work. Just sayin’.


50 posted on 10/28/2013 7:39:57 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Maybe he needs to date some Hillsdale girls, or nurses. Real-estate babes.


51 posted on 10/28/2013 7:45:21 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: MisterArtery

I can tell you that the museum in Dumas, TX, is a wonderful place to be for a museum major. Too bad Dumas pays so little


52 posted on 10/28/2013 7:58:07 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Just this past week I paid $14 more to a plumber than I did to a doctor who does not take insurance. And the plumber probably spent less time with us than the doctor did!


53 posted on 10/28/2013 7:58:47 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Kaslin

A community college often claims its associate degree grads earn more than $400,000 in a lifetime beyond that of one with a high school diploma. Don’t know if this is “real” as GA Jimmy once said of the “energy crisis”.


54 posted on 10/28/2013 8:02:44 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Kriggerel

Were you in medical technology; I understand that field has almost disappeared, but I don’t know why.


55 posted on 10/28/2013 8:11:56 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: luckystarmom

Also, a college student can save a lot by buying few of the expensive “required” textbooks. Most of the “required” texts are required by the college, not necessarily the instructor’s actual preference. Most college textbooks are little used, as the professors use their own accumulated notes over the years.


56 posted on 10/28/2013 8:13:49 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: luckystarmom

I have bad news for you:
The annual costs for a San Jose State incoming freshman will be $24,223 per year. (If he can live for free at his parents, it will only be $16,442.)


57 posted on 10/28/2013 8:17:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I believe the article said 35K in debt post college, not 35K for the whole education.


58 posted on 10/28/2013 8:29:53 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dangus
The annual costs for a San Jose State incoming freshman will be $24,223 per year. (If he can live for free at his parents, it will only be $16,442.)
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It likely costs twice the cost ( $16,442) to send a kid to their local collectivist indoctrination center ( Oops! “public school”). And...These K-12 indoctrination progs do live at home.

Government schooling accounting from pre-K through grad school would make an Enron accountant blush!

59 posted on 10/28/2013 8:37:56 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Kaslin

Today? Yes, as companies want to see the paper, even if it means the idiot know nothing.

Tomorrow, I suspect companies will want to pay less so they must let go that paper.


60 posted on 10/28/2013 8:46:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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