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Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups
The Washington Times ^ | 10/24/2012 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 10/25/2013 3:16:59 AM PDT by markomalley

Don’t donate to the tea party or to evangelical Christian groups — that was the message soldiers at a pre-deployment briefing at Fort Hood said they received from a counter-intelligence agent who headed up the meeting.

If you do, you could face punishment — that was the other half of the message, as reported by Fox News.

The briefing was Oct. 17, and about a half-hour of it was devoted to discussion about how perceived radical groups — like tea party organizations and the Christian-based American Family Association — were "tearing the country apart," one unnamed soldier said, to Fox News.

Among the remarks the agent allegedly made: Military members who donate to these groups would be subject to discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the soldier reported.

Liberty Institute has stepped in to investigate. Michael Berry, one of the nonprofit's attorneys, said he has been advising the soldier about his options — but that in the meanwhile, he said the American public should be on guard.

"The American public should be outraged that the U.S. Army is teaching our troops that evangelical Christians and tea party members are enemies of America and that they can be punished for supporting or participating in those groups," Mr. Berry said, in Fox News. "These statements about evangelicals being domestic enemies are a serious charge."

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1 posted on 10/25/2013 3:16:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; ...
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2 posted on 10/25/2013 3:22:00 AM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: markomalley

Well, I can remember the last time the Tea Party rioted on the Washington Mall. They caused tens of thousands of dollars worth of litter cleanup.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 3:25:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: markomalley

The Pentagon now arms al Qaeda,
defends Hasan AND HIS HANDLERS,
and makes AMERICANS their enemy.

This will not end well.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 3:27:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: markomalley

Sending this to my Congressman and Senator. I want them to get to the bottom of this. If true, some heads better damn sure roll.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 3:41:49 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: markomalley
Do people still believe that American Troops WON"T fire on American Citizens?

American troops are being systematically desensitized of the notion that American Citizens have rights. The PTB are targeting certain sections of the population and tagging them as "Enemies of the State"...

No matter what, this does not end well for people who do not toe the liberal line.

6 posted on 10/25/2013 3:56:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: markomalley

The progressives are making a multi-front concerted effort to turn the military.


7 posted on 10/25/2013 3:57:26 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: ImNotLying
"If true, some heads better damn sure roll."

If Fast & Furious, IRS, Benghazi, and others didn't cause any heads to roll, I am afraid you are SOL.

8 posted on 10/25/2013 4:06:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Ted Cruz is looking smarter every day.)
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To: DeaconRed; ImNotLying

The only way heads are going to roll is the same way they did during the French revolution....by the hands of the people.


9 posted on 10/25/2013 4:14:29 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: DeaconRed
"If true, some heads better damn sure roll."

If Fast & Furious, IRS, Benghazi, and others didn't cause any heads to roll, I am afraid you are SOL.

If Congress were really patriotic and just, they would impeach and convict themselves for failing to impeach Traitorobama and giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The odds are not good when you bet on evil men to do good.

10 posted on 10/25/2013 4:14:50 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: markomalley

sounds like someone is out to turn these young men and women and their military chain of command against fellow Americnas who are their own families, churches and neighbors since the “TEA” (Taxed Enough Already)Party is probably the sentiment of over half of Americans and will grow when folks get their obamacare tax bills


11 posted on 10/25/2013 4:15:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: markomalley

If this is so!
No sweat, we faced this and them in France, then later on the English in Scotland, then later on in Ireland. So, it’s no surprize to face them again here in the U.S.A. It’s the same people trying to take away Our God and freedom and shed our blood again. Y’all have just forgotten.

Those in power know they have driven us into the last corner (The USA).
The gov. knows (thinks) that this will be the end of those that have have always stood in their way. There is no where FOR FREEDOM to run now.

You must fight again soon like your forefathers did.
It’s an all or nothing fight to the finish for freedom. Get ready..

If it comes, except your war with vigor. It will be your last one God willing..

This is America. When 20 million or so Mother raised, God fearing hunters rise up against this tyranny government, they will fold up like a cheap suit. That’s a fact Jack..


12 posted on 10/25/2013 4:17:28 AM PDT by triSranch ( Home of J.C. Calhoun and thte Birthplace and Deathbed of the Confederacy)
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To: markomalley

That this is happening AFTER an islamic terrorist in soldier’s clothing shot up the base makes this all the more outrageous.

That this is happening AFTER said islamic terrorist was seen for what he was and people were told to look the other way...words fail me.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 4:24:02 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Diogenesis

“This will not end well.”

No, it won’t. But that has been the Obastard’s plan all along, and his lickspittle lackeys — especially those in the MSM — know it, and approve of it.


14 posted on 10/25/2013 4:31:27 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: triSranch

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill


15 posted on 10/25/2013 4:34:40 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: triSranch

I’m with ya triSranch.

It’s a shame I had to get down to the 12th post before I found someone that wasn’t posting a defeatist comment.

Too many FReepers are ready to give up before the first shot is fired.


16 posted on 10/25/2013 4:40:28 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: ought-six

“You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill

That’s the Spirit!!


17 posted on 10/25/2013 4:40:33 AM PDT by triSranch ( Home of J.C. Calhoun and thte Birthplace and Deathbed of the Confederacy)
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To: 444Flyer

It’s getting ugly out there.


18 posted on 10/25/2013 4:40:35 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Diogenesis

We’re probably in 1773. The Boston tea party was 1774. Lexington and Concord were 1775.


19 posted on 10/25/2013 4:42:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

It won’t end well for anyone.


20 posted on 10/25/2013 4:43:11 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: markomalley

Name the agent. Otherwise the report is not credible


21 posted on 10/25/2013 4:46:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: 2111USMC

God Bless You Marine.


22 posted on 10/25/2013 4:46:52 AM PDT by triSranch ( Home of J.C. Calhoun and thte Birthplace and Deathbed of the Confederacy)
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To: Mad Dawgg; markomalley

“American troops are being systematically desensitized of the notion that American Citizens have rights”

Spirited: Despite that any sign of dissent against Darwinism brings immediate accusations of ‘anti-science’ it nevertheless needs to said that Darwinism is the key to the desensitization process because it presents man as despicable apelike ‘other’ rather than human.

The Black Book of Communism exposes the use of Darwinism by Marxist Communists and German Socialists. Both regimes conditioned soldiers to annihilate non-human dinosaurs and other unevolved enemies of the state(Soviet Union) and human weeds and useless eaters (Nazis).

If our soldiers are willing to terrorize and kill Americans it’s because they no longer see them as Imago Dei but as something evolved from worms (Nietzsche) or primordial slime/apes (Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, America’s ruling class).

Ideas have consequences, meaning that what we accept as answers to the Ultimate Questions have real consequences in the temporal sphere.


23 posted on 10/25/2013 4:53:41 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: ImNotLying

Om barryville? You must be kidding.


24 posted on 10/25/2013 4:54:27 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: markomalley

Not surprised one bit.CI must be staffed with the muzzies policsars now.


25 posted on 10/25/2013 4:56:08 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: bert

That’s what I was thinking. Without the name of the agent, I doubt the authenticity of this report. It isn’t what I’m seeing. But if it is true, I think it is one person who went off the reservation. Otherwise, the would be a lot more reporting if it were systematic.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 4:56:40 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: markomalley

The true domestic enemy is their commander in chief.


27 posted on 10/25/2013 5:03:08 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: markomalley

They had an outright OPEN JIHADIST in their midst and did NOTHING!!!


28 posted on 10/25/2013 5:09:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Salvavida

In April some in the military were warned against Catholics...

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/04/05/u-s-army-warns-of-religious-extremism-from-evangelicals-catholics/


29 posted on 10/25/2013 5:10:32 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: markomalley

I support the TEA Party. I support, uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States (took an oath along those lines). I advocate for personal freedom, liberty, and responsibility. ... Now I’m a radical? I think everyone that is told that myself and those like me are radicals ought to take a good hard look at the person making that claim and the people behind him or her promoting that idea. Remember the Constitution and the principles this Country was founded upon, things that have made this not just the greatest country on earth, but the greatest place to live in history. Then look at the failed ideas and ideals driving people who are out critics. Choose wisely.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 5:12:24 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Salvavida

Another article:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/24/exclusive-army-halts-training-program-that-labeled-christians-as-extremists/


31 posted on 10/25/2013 5:13:46 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: markomalley

What the H__ is this? Indoctrinating our soldiers not to contribute to groups of their choice? The people in this Administration cannot be trusted.


32 posted on 10/25/2013 5:32:38 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: ought-six

All the is necessary for evil to win is for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke


33 posted on 10/25/2013 5:38:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: markomalley

The army used to warn the men away from hookers and being in the wrong parts of town.


34 posted on 10/25/2013 5:39:43 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diogenesis

We were warned.

Everything coming from the left/Satan is upside down, inside out as far was the definitions of good and evil go.


35 posted on 10/25/2013 5:41:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: markomalley

Yes, if this is true, we need NAMES, and we need them sooner than later to cut this off.


36 posted on 10/25/2013 5:46:56 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (I wish I lived in Texas.)
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To: ought-six
Churchill was correct. The thing is now is that the Government has made it so comfortable and easy being a slave [for now] that the sheep refuse to fight. Later, when the Government decides to up the ante, the sheep will be in no condition to fight.

I fully understand and know that it will never happen here, we got guns. They know we have guns also and they probably know that if pushed to the point we have nothing to lose, we will use them. That is why they will never push to that point.

Why? Because they know that they have already won. How, you ask? Each year tow groups graduate from their indoctrination centers ,a/k/a, schools, universities, and colleges and go out into the world. Meanwhile, in that same year, a generation of the elderly whom have lived when the United States was actually a free Nation, die. They not die out without passing on the traditions and customs to the younger. The Christmas Holidays is a good example: The term "Merry Christmas, God Bless you" has become happy holidays. The Christmas tree has became a holiday tree. The Christmas break has became a winter break. Saying the pledge of allegiance is frowned upon. Saying the Lord's Prayer has been banned in many places. Marriage between a man and woman is ridiculed, made light of and discouraged. And by the same token, marriage between two men, two women is encouraged and praised.

37 posted on 10/25/2013 5:49:47 AM PDT by sport
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To: markomalley
Don’t donate to the tea party or to evangelical Christian groups — that was the message soldiers at a pre-deployment briefing at Fort Hood said they received from a counter-intelligence agent who headed up the meeting.

We crossed our fingers and used the fish symbol under Roman persecution.

We will prevail.

38 posted on 10/25/2013 5:52:10 AM PDT by broken_clock (Do it Sarah! Cut the ties that bind.)
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To: 2111USMC

“It’s a shame I had to get down to the 12th post before I found someone that wasn’t posting a defeatist comment.”

FR is infested with defeatists, RINO neo-con trolls, DU snakes and Soros propagandists. The mammon-worshipping Philistines have returned.


39 posted on 10/25/2013 5:57:49 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: rightwingextremist1776
"by the hands of the people.

Deacon is ready, has been for a long time. . . . . . . .

40 posted on 10/25/2013 5:58:11 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Ted Cruz is looking smarter every day. I could waltz across Texas with Sara Palin. . .)
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To: popdonnelly

” What the H__ is this? Indoctrinating our soldiers not to contribute to groups of their choice? The people in this Administration cannot be trusted.”

The irony is that AFA is listed as a charity that can be designated on Combined Federal Campaign donations (cfc code 12037)


41 posted on 10/25/2013 5:58:25 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

O...M...G... who have we become? This is not the America I grew up in, this is flat out Satanic...


42 posted on 10/25/2013 6:04:59 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: markomalley

O...M...G... who have we become? This is not the America I grew up in, this is flat out Satanic...


43 posted on 10/25/2013 6:04:59 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Tammy8
Thanks Tammy, and that article proves my point.

The first sentence tells you all you need to know. It isn't the "Army", it isn't systematic. They are loners in the military going rogue.

I'm a military curriculum developer, and somewhat familiar with how training is done, and this didn't pass the smell test. That doesn't mean I wouldn't call your Congressman; I just would not get caught up in hyperbole like many do here.

44 posted on 10/25/2013 6:05:40 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Yo-Yo
"Well, I can remember the last time the Tea Party rioted on the Washington Mall. They caused tens of thousands of dollars worth of litter cleanup."

And who can forget those evil Christians that flew planes into the world trade center, drove around DC's beltway shooting innocent people filling up their cars with gas or (ironically) shooting up Fort Hood?

45 posted on 10/25/2013 6:07:24 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: markomalley

Apparrantly now the US has incorporated its version on Political Officers that were the backbone of the Soviet Union’s Military.

This is not America.


46 posted on 10/25/2013 6:12:01 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Mad Dawgg

This regime’s progression of dehumanization being done against Christians and conservatives in the US today matches that of the Third Reich and how they dehumanized the “undesireables” to the point that “normal” people would participate in Krystalnacht and in the turning in and extermination of Jews. They systematically built on each step of legal degredation to change the thinking of the people, to the point that they considered Jews vermin who were dangerous to the nation just like plague-infested rats would be a danger. The logical response to thinking somebody is a dangerous rat... is to kill them.

That is the programming that this regime is doing. I have no doubts in my mind that Obama is pushing for sharia in America as well as in the rest of the world, just like he told the Egyptian ambassador in January of 2010 that he would do. The Holocaust of Christians all over the world has gotten WAY, WAY worse under Obama, and he is now laying the groundwork for the same thing to happen here.

I have a message for you, Valerie Jarrett. I will gladly die with Christ and live with Him forever while you get to be a play-toy for Satan forever. Whether you service Satan directly or act as one of 70 perpetual virgins for his agents on earth makes no difference to me. You’re making your bed and will lie in it forever. I will NEVER lie in that bed. Cut my head off if you like; it will only be a one-way ticket to joy you will never even be able to dream of.


47 posted on 10/25/2013 6:17:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Diogenesis

This is ALL under Obama’s watch. This didn’t happen under the 43 guys that preceeded him. Hopefully, it won’t happen after he’s gone from the scene......whenever that will be. Can’t wait for the REAL, LEGAL holder of the office of POTUS. In my book, there will always be a huge asterick beside the 44th* number.


48 posted on 10/25/2013 6:20:00 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: demshateGod

Culture is very slow to change. A two-term President can do a lot of damage, but his reign is finite. I do not foresee out troops turning guns on their friends and family. I have more faith in our military than that. Not to mention they have a President who underneathe it all, detests them. You really think they are going to arm themselves against fellow Americans for that man?


49 posted on 10/25/2013 6:20:44 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: markomalley

Free Speech is a casualty of Hope and Change. Could Bush or any Republican have gotten away with this?


50 posted on 10/25/2013 6:32:58 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Groucho Marx)
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