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It begins: Demsí number two in the House calls for more money for ObamaCare website
Hotair ^ | 10/23/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 10/23/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The best part of this is that he admits he doesn’t know if the site actually needs more money or not. “Give them a little” is something he seems to say almost reflexively, I guess because when a government program is failing badly, that’s just what you do. For Hoyer, throwing another hundred million or two into this quicksand is really just a symbolic vote of confidence in it, I think, nothing more. When you’re $17 trillion in debt, it’s all Monopoly money at this point anyway.

I wonder if he knows that the site’s already three times over budget. I know he wouldn’t care if he did know, but does he know? I’m curious to see just how closely the Democratic leadership is following the growth of this precious little pony they gifted to America.

Asked Tuesday how Congress could help improve the system by which millions of Americans must buy insurance by the end of the year, the House minority whip and Maryland Democrat said, “We can give them a little money.”

“[Republicans have] been pretty much focused in the House of Representatives on undermining the implementation of the Affordable Care Act in every which way that we possibly could,” he said.

Hoyer admitted that he does not know whether the project, which has already cost more than $400 million, has faced funding problems. “I don’t think that’s the reason,” he said. “If I know that, I’ll blame it.”…

“I certainly believe it’s a bad performance,” Hoyer said. “Obviously this was not done the way it should have been done, and I’m sure if I was a Republican I would yell and scream about it as well.

Ace notes that that line about Republicans undermining implementation may signal a sly inchoate Democratic attempt to suggest, without clearly stating, that it’s the shutdown that caused Healthcare.gov’s problems, not Obama’s incompetence. That’s false, of course, but there are indeed people out there in this great big country of ours who believe it. Expect to hear more of it as “repairs” to the site drag on and on, and on. Meanwhile, Ben Domenech saw the “more money” gambit coming a few days ago:

4. With the White House’s blessing, a Gang of Insert Number Here with some vulnerable/moderate Dems (Manchin, Landrieu, Pryor, Begich, Heitkamp, Warner… maybe Baucus?) could press for a package of “fix the exchanges” legislation, which could conceivably offer Republicans a chance to pass delay while appropriating more funding for the exchanges – something like: delay the mandate, delay some of the goodies, and take the exchanges offline and give them more money to fix them.

Are there even six Republicans in the Senate willing to be part of a gang like that, though? The idea of any GOPer colluding with Democrats to fix the exchanges, even if they’re able to win a delay of the law in the process, seems unthinkable to me. They’d be accused of rescuing O’s boondoggle at a moment of supreme weakness; everything you heard after the shutdown ended about RINOs like Boehner and McConnell now “owning” O-Care because they couldn’t figure out a way to stop it would multiply by a hundred. On the other hand, if the caucus unites in opposition and vows not a penny more for “repairs,” they risk being perceived as endorsing the “let it burn” approach to O-Care. Even Ted Cruz has problems with LIB — for good reason, says Breitbart’s Joel Pollak:

It is tempting, now that President Barack Obama and the mainstream media are rubbing Republicans’ noses in the mess that was the government shutdown, to let them take the “credit” for Obamacare and force them to implement it as “settled law.” After all, they played their part in forcing the shutdown by resisting any change or delay at all to Obamacare. So let them take the “credit” for that supposedly triumphant stance.

The problem is that a member of Congress has to face his or her constituents and explain what he or she is doing to help them–not in 2017, when the only realistic possibility for repealing Obamacare will arise, but today. It would be unacceptable for Rubio or Cruz to tell their constituents that the voters have to be taught a lesson. So they have to take some kind of action to “fix” Obamacare, while still pressing for its repeal.

The only way to spare the public pain from ObamaCare, the “defunders” will say, was to defund it before it started. True, but Senate math being what it was, it wasn’t going to happen. And it didn’t happen, so what’s the Plan B to spare people now? Rubio proposes delaying the individual mandate to prevent them from suffering an unjust penalty, but if Democrats agreed to do that, it would wreak more immediate havoc on the insurance industry than fixing the website would. I’m not sure what Cruz’s Plan B is but no doubt we’ll find out in the next few days. This is why Domenech thinks the gang option is, although improbable, at least possible: You may get six purple-state Republicans who decide that the least bad option here between cutting O a blank check and declaring that not a penny of money will be spent to rescue ObamaCare no matter how many Biblical plagues its half-assed implementation unleashes upon the land is to give Obama the money he needs for the site in return for major concessions on the order of delaying the law for awhile. Can’t wait for that next round of RINO/true conservative throat-slitting.


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1 posted on 10/23/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Duh!

Since Dem’s #2 is in the White House.....


2 posted on 10/23/2013 7:23:03 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

I heard a stat today that for what has already been spent they could pay for 5000 years worth of man hours at 200 bucks a pop.


3 posted on 10/23/2013 7:23:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
Hoyer
4 posted on 10/23/2013 7:24:32 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is all part of the plan. Democrats passed it without one single Republican vote. Yet now they will ask for more money and when the Republicans say “no” the dems will blame the Republicans for the failure of Obamacare. And you know who will go along with this? John Sidney McCain will be on show after show validating this crap. Before you know it the MSM will no longer be referring to it as Obamacare but as Boehnercare and the low information crowd will suck it up hook line and sinker.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 7:24:57 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SeekAndFind

The way government typically works, the funding to fix the website will be more than the original cost of the website — and the original cost was just over $600 million.

This [the website, exclusive of Obamacare in general] is becoming the Obama Billion Dollar Blunder.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 7:26:27 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Only a suggestion here...but since this is fresh new money for something we already paid for...I’d suggest to invent a new tax on software development companies and just pass the buck on down the line. Make it a nineteen percent tax for one year...just like that fancy medical appliance tax they invented...and shower the IT industry with the same pains as everyone else.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 7:27:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

Governments pretty much tend to f*ck up anything and everything they touch.

Marxists never learn this simple fact, however, and our brain dead president clearly has never gleaned anything from even the most casual and simple-minded review of history such as an elementary student might make.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 7:28:03 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: SeekAndFind
RE :” Rubio proposes delaying the individual mandate to prevent them from suffering an unjust penalty, but if Democrats agreed to do that, it would wreak more immediate havoc on the insurance industry than fixing the website would”

Rub’s right here. Delaying just the personal mandate not only sounds good to the average American but it will cause more problems for Obamacare as only the will sign up to get their expenses paid.

Heck, Obama could be forced to do it himself, that could be good too as only Obamas finger prints are on it..

1) defunding it was never a real possibility
2) Delaying the whole bill could help Obama in the long run.
3) Delaying just the mandate is devious.

9 posted on 10/23/2013 7:29:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: SeekAndFind

More money! More money! When do we want it? Now! What a freak show! Bailing out these “insurance companies” is going to make the auto industry bailout look like a garage sale.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 7:29:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your burrito! Here comes amnesty!)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO BLANK CHECKS!!!

Remember how opposed you were to them back in the day, PROGs?


11 posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:51 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Proving my old axiom, “No gubmint program is EVER a failure it's just ‘underfunded’.”
12 posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:54 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TomGuy
This [the website, exclusive of Obamacare in general] is becoming the Obama Billion Dollar Blunder Plunder.

plun·der
verb (used with object)
1. to rob of goods or valuables by open force, as in war, hostile raids, brigandage, etc.: to plunder a town.
2. to rob, despoil, or fleece: to plunder the public treasury.
3. to take wrongfully, as by pillage, robbery, or fraud: to plunder a piece of property. verb (used without object)
4. to take plunder; pillage.

noun
5. plundering, pillage, or spoliation.
6. that which is taken in plundering; loot.
7. anything taken by robbery, theft, or fraud.

13 posted on 10/23/2013 7:32:32 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: SeekAndFind
NOT ONE DAMN DIME MORE!!!!!!

AND NO NEGOTIATIONS ON THAT EITHER!

14 posted on 10/23/2013 7:32:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is the only way liberals deal with their failures like the War on Poverty. Keep throwing more money into the sewer and hiring more liberals to spend more money. p>

Only “hundreds” have been able to sign up for a health care plan at the Obamacare websites. The Wall Street Journal reported:

Okay now we will try the landline # 1-800-318-2596 listed above or 1-800-318-2596 = 1-800-FAU-CKYO.

Inspite of the Daily ObozoScamScare Trainwrecks, the ObozoScamScare Outhouse Band continues to play on:


15 posted on 10/23/2013 7:37:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Get our troops out of the middle east and let Allah sort out the Islamofascist losers!)
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To: pepsionice
I’d suggest to invent a new tax on software development companies and just pass the buck on down the line.

Why punish them for something they didn't do? Yes, an IT company effed up the website, but not every IT company.

Shared misery is the goal of socialism/communism.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 7:40:00 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Because nearly three quarters of a BILLION dollars wasn’t enough!


17 posted on 10/23/2013 7:40:40 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I heard a stat today that for what has already been spent they could pay for 5000 years worth of man hours at 200 bucks a pop.

That is off by an order of magnitude. Five thousand man-years (approximately 10 million man/hours) at $200/hour would be over $2 billion. Five hundred man-years at the same cost would be $200 million, which is on the low end of the cost estimates I have heard. So figure between 500-1500 man years, depending upon which cost estimate you believe.

18 posted on 10/23/2013 7:42:26 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: SeekAndFind

A person can buy arguably the best designed car on the market and then spend ten times again as much to take it apart and sabotage every single component.
Use water for brake fluid, use aluminum wiring with acid flux soldering, use seawater for coolant, inflate the tires with hydrogen, the windshield is made from sugar.

Of course they need more money, cause it cost more to pay a person to deliberately create negatives, and then their is bribes to keep shut about it.


19 posted on 10/23/2013 7:43:30 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are SO many analogies that Republicans could liken this Obamacare roll-out to, if they only had some kind of leader that could grab the headlines.

"If your car is a lemon, you don't spend another two grand on chromed spinner wheels and a Bose speaker system!"

"If your house is a money pit, and its foundation is riddled with termite infestation, you don't drop fifty thousand to put in granite countertops and walnut cabinets."

Sooner or later, Republicans have to say, enough is enough. We can't keep throwing good money after bad.

20 posted on 10/23/2013 7:46:21 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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