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Obamacare penalties
vanity | Oct 21 , 2013 | self

Posted on 10/21/2013 9:12:37 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse

Resist and Ignore Obamacare . When you go into overtime without signing up , resist . Do not pay any penalties , refuse to play the game 100% . Just Say No. If millions and millions of Americans just totally shine this on and ignore the whole thing , what can they do ? Ideas ? What can they do ? Massive passive resistance is in order here . To hell with tyranny . Sic Semper Tyranus


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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacarepenalties; obamacaretax; resistance
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1 posted on 10/21/2013 9:12:37 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I sure won’t be signing up.


2 posted on 10/21/2013 9:14:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: LeoWindhorse

I don’t know about this. If we don’t sign up that won’t please President Obama.


3 posted on 10/21/2013 9:20:45 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Don’t sign up. Barrycade the Barrycader.


4 posted on 10/21/2013 9:20:49 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: LeoWindhorse

If you own property or bank accounts and the IRS can increase the fines and collect, that would be the problem of ignoring. Could become a national problem along withe the sky high rates.


5 posted on 10/21/2013 9:21:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

What needs to happen is many class actions being filed challenging Obamacare as an illegal tax. The Supreme Court did not rule on this, and in fact Roberts created the issue when he tried to save Obamacare by calling it a tax. But a tax measure must arise in the House, and Obamacare came out of the Senate.


6 posted on 10/21/2013 9:22:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: LeoWindhorse
Four things we think we know about Obamacare

"The penalty for being uninsured next year is $95. Again, this is partly true. In fact, the penalty for being uninsured next year is $95 or 1 percent of your income, whichever is higher. So if you make $75,000 a year and you decide to go without insurance, the penalty will be $750. There are a number of things you can do to avoid having to pay it, from deliberately getting your utilities shut off to under-withholding taxes from your paycheck so that they don’t have a refund from which to take out the penalty. But that number is what will go on the books at the Internal Revenue Service, not the $95 you’ve probably heard."

7 posted on 10/21/2013 9:23:26 PM PDT by Baynative (Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept those that I can't.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

That has been my plan all along. If they ever do contact me the games begin. Stalling, playing dumb, dyslexic form filling, every misdirection I can think of. Meanwhile assets get moved and/or dispersed into unrecoverable (to them) positions.


8 posted on 10/21/2013 9:24:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I am wondering if we spent some time at a library computer making up applications in fake names, you know, just to glut the system.

We need to go all Cloward and Piven on their @$$e$.

9 posted on 10/21/2013 9:25:38 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I was thinking about this. If you go to the page and click one link, then minimize the browser, and do nothing further, would that tie up the system?

What if everybody did this, as a protest?

Would it have any effect on the system?


10 posted on 10/21/2013 9:25:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: All

if we refuse to participate in an injustice, isn’t that following the actions of rosa parks?


11 posted on 10/21/2013 9:27:03 PM PDT by willywill
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To: LeoWindhorse; null and void; Errant; cyn
If millions and millions of Americans just totally shine this on and ignore the whole thing , what can they do ? Ideas ? What can they do ?

Long ago, when FR had a vibrant Conspiracy Village, talk of FEMA camps outed the resident kooks.

Not so kooky anymore.

Signed,

a catacomb dweller

12 posted on 10/21/2013 9:27:35 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

they will need help quickly if armed agents arrive at their house.


13 posted on 10/21/2013 9:28:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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14 posted on 10/21/2013 9:29:11 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Here is an interesting thought, (I think)

obamacare is a federal law

the fine is a federal penalty for breaking the federal law

if you do not do not have health insurance you are in violation of federal law and subject to a fine

does that not mean you are charged with a federal crime
which in turn is a felony


15 posted on 10/21/2013 9:30:18 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hmmmm....pick a day and a time, I guess a weekend, Saturday morning perhaps, adjust for the different time zones.....

Hmmmmm ....Dec 12th is the last Saturday before the “Dec 15-sign-up-by-then-to-have-health-care-by-Jan 1” deadline.


16 posted on 10/21/2013 9:31:18 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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17 posted on 10/21/2013 9:33:24 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Ezekiel
Yeah. Tell me about it!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

18 posted on 10/21/2013 9:33:33 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: svcw
which in turn is a felony

Which in turn means they take your guns.

19 posted on 10/21/2013 9:34:45 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I STARTED UP the church of RO, Religious Objector...its tenant is to Object to Government Intrusion in your Life.

I do believe the Jehova Witness should have a good case for not having to pay odumbisnare, shouldn’t they?


20 posted on 10/21/2013 9:34:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: A CA Guy

That’s what I was saying, this is all a ruse to slide communism in the back door. They flat out lie, the public finds out slowly about it, then when the whole truth comes out it’s too late. Affordable care - Lie. Keep your plan - lie. Keep your doctor - lie. Now they are saying when you get fined the IRS cannot collect it except in refunds. Ho ho ho ho yes right, OK. So when I don’t buy into this scam year after year and my “fines” add up to $50,000 bucks, I’m sure they will just subtract that from my refund...As soon as they put a lien on my bank account, seize my car etc etc. It’s collectivism, redistribution, communism 101 in guise of “insurance”. They are purposely making it high cost because they WANT fines so they can have an excuse to “share the wealth”.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 9:36:15 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

ALL dictators start by first instituting nationalized health care and then massive control/confiscation of weapons.


22 posted on 10/21/2013 9:36:59 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: svcw

Obama should be impeached for his “if you like your plan . . .” FRAUD!


23 posted on 10/21/2013 9:43:46 PM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: LeoWindhorse

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24 posted on 10/21/2013 9:44:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Baynative

I wonder where they will get the doctors to work for odumbicare peanuts?


25 posted on 10/21/2013 9:46:58 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
which in turn is a felony

Which in turn means they take your guns.

Which in turn means I won't need health care anymore.

26 posted on 10/21/2013 9:50:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I predict a massive increase in the Amish faith.


27 posted on 10/21/2013 9:50:58 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: LeoWindhorse

Obamacare settled law? Try enforcing it
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3081522/posts


28 posted on 10/21/2013 9:51:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Obama's favorite game is Pin the Fail on the Honkey!)
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To: null and void

I miss the halcyon days of black helicopters, HAARP, and the all-seeing eye of Horus.

The early visionaries saw through the glass darkly, but now that drones, Fukushima, and the NSA have been revealed in these last days, the “kooks” have been vindicated.

It took Obamacare to make full sense of boxcars and FEMA camps, though.


29 posted on 10/21/2013 9:51:25 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

>> Resist and Ignore...

Your primary goal should be getting you and your dependents health insurance!


30 posted on 10/21/2013 9:52:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

What, me worry? I live 12,000 miles away. I can not get Obumbocare, even if I want it. I am exempt. I do, however, have my own healthcare insurance for where I live.


31 posted on 10/21/2013 9:52:56 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: LeoWindhorse

give no one your personal info


32 posted on 10/21/2013 9:54:37 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Which in turn means they take your guns.

I see dead people.

33 posted on 10/21/2013 9:56:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: svcw

I do not know what classification this crime would be, but not every federal crime is a felony.


34 posted on 10/21/2013 9:57:56 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: LeoWindhorse

I predict a massive increase in the Amish faith.


35 posted on 10/21/2013 10:03:21 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: LeoWindhorse

Well, the IRS can’t actually do anything about people not paying the penalty, with the exception that if a refund is due, they can subtract the penalty from the refund.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 10:17:46 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: svcw

“Here is an interesting thought, (I think)

obamacare is a federal law

the fine is a federal penalty for breaking the federal law

if you do not do not have health insurance you are in violation of federal law and subject to a fine

does that not mean you are charged with a federal crime
which in turn is a felony”


No, remember that sage, John Roberts, re-wrote the law and called it a tax, not a fine. And the law limits the powers of the IRS to even collect the tax.


37 posted on 10/21/2013 10:21:26 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: kaehurowing

Exactly. Everyone should refuse to sign up then wait for the fine. After the fines absolutely flood the courts with lawsuits.


38 posted on 10/21/2013 10:27:52 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: LeoWindhorse

Post 9 & Post 10 - that’s the spirit

The Rules of Freedom Club:

1st RULE: You talk about FREEDOM CLUB.
2nd RULE: You TALK TO EVERYONE about FREEDOM CLUB.


39 posted on 10/21/2013 10:45:36 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Slyfox

Ping to #39


40 posted on 10/21/2013 10:47:12 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Obamacare IS a Penalty.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 10:57:50 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...

Article and comments, esp # 24.

Thanks, JJ.

42 posted on 10/21/2013 11:01:08 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Jet Jaguar

No, it would not.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 11:01:36 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: svcw
does that not mean you are charged with a federal crime which in turn is a felony

You have to be convicted in a court of proper jurisdiction before you're guilty of a felony. They also have to bring charges of a criminal nature. The ACA specifies that no criminal charges may be brought for either not getting insurance or paying the penalty. So, no, it is not a felony.

44 posted on 10/21/2013 11:48:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

45 posted on 10/22/2013 12:58:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I’m sure they will just subtract that from my refund

The IRS will change that on a whim without Congress or Senate, or even the President.
Really though, why not, our whole legal system is being regulated REGULATED
by laws that are not passed by Congress. Laws that can land anybody in Prison.
It needs to stop.

46 posted on 10/22/2013 1:04:24 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Starve the beast!. No sign-up here either!


47 posted on 10/22/2013 1:07:10 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: LucyT

Stewart Delivers Blistering Takedown of Obamacare Rollout: Dems Can’t ‘Spin This Turd’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-delivers-blistering-takedown-of-obamacare-rollout-dems-cant-spin-this-turd/


48 posted on 10/22/2013 5:15:59 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: LeoWindhorse
The IRS will simply assess individuals with penalties & interest on their income tax. If you do not pay them, they will seize your bank accounts and/or home.

Now, you can lawyer up & take them to court, but the probable legal expense will far exceed Obamacare insurance premiums, even if you win in court. The math is fully loaded AGAINST you.

So, if you are dirt poor, with nothing in the bank & not a homeowner, you have nothing to fear. But, for the most of us who have worked long & hard for what few assets we possess, WE ARE SCREWED.

However ignorant Liberals are of economics, they are experts at stealing our money.

49 posted on 10/22/2013 5:53:16 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Since we already have Rationed Medicare with Rationed Tricare Life for Military over 65, I think it means you are automatically on 0’care if you like it or not.

Closest Military base from us is just 22 miles for your meds or express scripts, which I would not trust if my life depended on it. GENERICS is all they want to use, not all generics are equal to the name brand and have more side effects because of the fillers. I can’t see narcotics being left in your mail box, open invite to theives looking for pain meds etc. And they are hard to deal with.


50 posted on 10/22/2013 5:56:39 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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