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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 October 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 20 October 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/20/2013 5:22:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: rodguy911

51 posted on 10/20/2013 7:32:15 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Son House
And will the media remain silent

Press acts and sounds like an abused wife.
52 posted on 10/20/2013 7:32:20 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mtnwmn

What we found is getting out the vote is everything and to do that you need people.


53 posted on 10/20/2013 7:33:16 AM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: maica

Rmembering.....

Don Rumsfeld insisted on taping each interview side beside the network taping him. That way he could release the whole interview if they didn’t portray his statements fairly and accurately.

Perhaps Cruz is or should be doing the same thing.


54 posted on 10/20/2013 7:33:59 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: rodguy911

OMG. I am now watching MTP, which opens with a totally skewed panel attacking the Tea Party and describing them either as irrelevant or a radical fringe that will continue to be a problem.


55 posted on 10/20/2013 7:35:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Fishtalk

I agree that those who are saying that Cruz’s and Lee’s strategy was a bad idea know that it was working and they incorrectly want Obamacare around for the 2014 and 2016 elections. Maybe even beyond. The McCain Party may even believe in Obamacare. They are reckless at best, playing not only with fire but, risking our downfall as a nation. They must be marginalized and stopped.


56 posted on 10/20/2013 7:38:16 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: kabar
No question,the regime thinks they can start a civil war within the party which could save their bacon in 2014. We will probably fall into the trap since we(GOP) are politically inept and not getting any better.

It's up to us to point out the true jeopardy and true issues that can make our side and break theirs. We have no one else to depend on but the New Media.

Its always instructive to see how the DNC/MSM spins/lies their way through week to week. Currently this week DNC Dave seems invested in pointing out all the issues with O'care and how and what rush and the rest will attack his side on. If he can alert his buddies in the media/DNC, hard left, regime, "now" what we will attack later this week he will have given an early warning on which is the key point of his show anyway. ............. Maria Bartiromo CNBC's "Money Honey" apparently didn't get the message O'care not responsible for the U.S. as a part time employer,just too funny.

57 posted on 10/20/2013 7:40:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar
...attacking the Tea Party and describing them either as irrelevant or a radical fringe

Which they probably are, to a bunch of NYC-RATs

58 posted on 10/20/2013 7:40:29 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Kelly who?(LOL!)


59 posted on 10/20/2013 7:41:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Don Rumsfeld insisted on taping each interview side beside the network taping him. That way he could release the whole interview if they didn’t portray his statements fairly and accurately.

This should be an absolute policy of everyone having contact with the press, including us when we are at events. If you talk with a reporter always have an ally film the whole exchange. If you're dealing with the police you may want another layer of filming - overwatch filming the filming.

60 posted on 10/20/2013 7:41:54 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: rodguy911

Fledgling Neo-RINO from New Hampster.

McCain took her under his wing....or something.


61 posted on 10/20/2013 7:46:48 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: kabar
Yeah I'm watching it as well. Just loaded with chatting points this week.

They are trying to set the agenda once again assuming that immigration will be next. If Boehner falls for this it could mean the end to conservatism.the agenda should be whatever Boehner wants to bring up in the house. And amnesty should not be anywhere in his bag of tricks...........

Just saw a flick of hill/bitch she looks like the walking dead,all white. No sun in her life,the plight of drac.

62 posted on 10/20/2013 7:47:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yeah for sure,too bad Mark won’t run against her.The good Mark: Steyn!


63 posted on 10/20/2013 7:49:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Son House

The young and healthy don’t know it yet, but they are about to become conservatives. hurry, hurry, we haven’t got all f’n day !


64 posted on 10/20/2013 7:50:53 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: All

DNC Dave’s entire panel just gushing over hill/bitch all but have her named Queen.I guess the MSM/dbm just can’t get enough of lezbos and fag boys in high offices,figures.


65 posted on 10/20/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

It’s already begun. Conservatives who are waffling on Cruz and the shut down have to be reminded that the media will be lying about him to destroy our side. Just as they did with Sarah Palin and then the Tea Party; now it’s Cruz.

My own conservative brother has fallen for the media assassinations of Palin and has to be reminded how the media is lying to him on a daily basis.


66 posted on 10/20/2013 7:53:46 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: rodguy911

And the media not acknowledging Government is part of the problem of health care insurance only being available through employers. Republicans have better solutions in opening markets across states, health care savings accounts ect. Media not acknowledging that.

I remember well the days when some folks chose taking lesser paying jobs to get health care insurance.

Nowadays Democrats are allowed to force everyone into buying insurance. And it still isn’t so readily available, or even a viable plan. But as long as media can pass the impression all polls agree with Democrats...


67 posted on 10/20/2013 7:54:52 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Face the Nation tries to save McConnell and Graham this morning, giving them face time, and in passing Bob Schieffer takes a poke or two at Cruz.

McConnell looked stiff, but generally always does. Graham stays in his own universe where he always knows best and all others are silly fools.

Sen. Mark Warren (D) VA gives kudos to Graham about working together, “going forward”.

Graham begs HOR to follow Boehner for Speaker.

* (Rand and Marco support McConnell.)


68 posted on 10/20/2013 7:56:32 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: rodguy911
What I am concerned about re Obamacare is that the Administration will win on their message that the sole criterion of success for Obamacare is the number of enrollees. This is clearly not the metric that should be used.

We know that the number of enrollees will rise as employers drop health care insurance and force their employees into the exchanges. Tens of millions will lose their employer-furnished insurance. It just makes good financial sense for the employers to drop healthcare insurance.

The real criteria should be how much will Obamacare insurance cost, the amount of deductibles and co-pays, etc. I suspect that the uninsured number will go up as people are priced out of the market. They will get insurance when they get really sick since preexisting conditions will no longer apply. And the cost of Obamacare to the taxpayers will skyrocket with the subsidies and a massive increase in Medicaid numbers.

And finally, as the government and the insurance companies suck up more discretionary funds from the consumer in the form of higher premiums, deductibles and co-pays along with higher taxes, our economy will suffer. The health care ecosystem is so complex and huge that we really will not know the unintended consequences of a government takeover of one-sixth of the economy. The roll out of Obamacare should give us a hint of how bad things will be when the government is in charge of such a complex program.

69 posted on 10/20/2013 7:59:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I like Dennis Millers idea.

We should have a one to one relationship between takers and producers.

For instance, my tax dollars would we earmarked for one, or more, welfare cases.
Those welfare receivers would be compelled to write a letter and send a picture back to their sponsor, every three months, and discuss how the welfare check helps their situation


70 posted on 10/20/2013 8:01:21 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: rodguy911

How do you like the new term I coined? ...to describe TEApublican turncoats.


71 posted on 10/20/2013 8:01:23 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: kabar

Morning Cousin Kabar,

Haven’t seen you in a while.

This rollout is so bad it’s a failure.

Oncit I had to install a new payroll system for an inner city hospital....Baltimore.

Had two years advance, big money....came day for it to go live (people don’t want to hear about “glitches” causing them to get no paycheck)...IT WORKED!

And I didn’t have the federal gubmint and endless money to throw at that thing.

I’m betting all over America are folks like me, charged with putting in something new, working day and night, and getting it done!

We know the federal gubmint is not up to this challenge.

This is not a winner for these dolts.

Oh, and guess what? Exactly ONE person signed up for Obamacare here in Delaware. That person showed his plan.

Now I know they’re giving subsidies for the prenmium....his was $1000 a month about, when it had been around $300.

But the subsidy will kick in but here’s the hidden cost.

His deductible was $2500!

His prescription deductibe was $1,000.

His co-pay was 70-30.

wait till this guy goes to the doctor and finds out he has to use up $2,500 worth of charges a year before his “subsidized” insurance kicks in, plus one grand of dough before a prescription is purchased.

And when it DOES finally pay something, he will have to pay 30% of the bill.

In short, forget the subsidy, he will have to pay over three grand before the health insurance pays a dime.

These Americans who think this is free with that big subsidy got a lot of learning to do.


72 posted on 10/20/2013 8:01:36 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Is there anyway we can get Bibi to run for president?Ah, heck, I can dream, can’t I???


Interesting thought.

Bibi sees evil and wants to confront it. Obama is evil, and wants to maximize its impact.


73 posted on 10/20/2013 8:04:08 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Fishtalk

And Doctors have started to demand all the deductable up front, on account, before your first appointment


74 posted on 10/20/2013 8:04:54 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Son House
Democrats are allowed to force everyone into buying insurance. And it still isn’t so readily available, or even a viable plan.

And exactly because many RAT-states have destroyed their own medical insurance markets.

75 posted on 10/20/2013 8:05:05 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: bray

Yes, you know Rubio is a real Tea Party sympathizer on the mend from his wayward trails, because he supports the Surrender Caucus leader, McConnell. That should do it. /s

Marco is still a bushie.


76 posted on 10/20/2013 8:05:13 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: kabar

Right now, more people are losing their insurance, than those buying policies on the exchanges


77 posted on 10/20/2013 8:06:22 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: kabar

The only reason ABC is putting on Cruz vs Bush is to further divide the GOP.


They can put Jebba the Hut on, but it won’t sway me.

The more I see the Bush/Clinton loveliest ( Daddy Bush/Billy Jeff) the
more it makes me want no part of Jeb.

Voted to GW twice, and feel he was hung out to dry by “ the architect” et al when they simply allowed the press to bash him with no retort.

That led the way to O for 2 terms.


78 posted on 10/20/2013 8:06:45 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

old rinos. He picked the wrong group to join.
Just like Kelly Ayotte.


Now known as Kelly Id - e - ot.


79 posted on 10/20/2013 8:08:49 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: kabar

The real criteria should be how much will Obamacare insurance cost, the amount of deductibles and co-pays, etc. I suspect that the uninsured number will go up as people are priced out of the market. They will get insurance when they get really sick since preexisting conditions will no longer apply. And the cost of Obamacare to the taxpayers will skyrocket with the subsidies and a massive increase in Medicaid numbers.


Agree.

Hannity the other night started to broach this with his liberal/conservative panel, but as usual got distracted and didn’t stay on point.


80 posted on 10/20/2013 8:13:34 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride

Here’s the exact quote I mentioned before;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3073182/posts

“I do believe that there is a basis for a resolution [because] Iran’s Supreme Leader has issued a fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons,” Obama told reporters.

Where’s the lap dog media on this?

Am I supposed to take comfort or confidence in that?

What is a fatwa? I speak English, not Iranian, I have no idea what he means.

What is a Supreme Leader? Does everyone in Iran have to obey him? What if they don’t? Do tell...reporters...


81 posted on 10/20/2013 8:14:09 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: RitaOK

Do they perform castrations in the Cloak Room?


82 posted on 10/20/2013 8:14:42 AM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: patriotspride

excellant summary.


83 posted on 10/20/2013 8:16:57 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Son House

Now is also the time to explain to voters that a single payer plan would be even worse. With government mandating coverages and not caring about profitability, the consumer gets the worst of both worlds: worse care and higher prices.

Democrats will demonize insurance companies but there is no example of government being more competitive than private insurers.


84 posted on 10/20/2013 8:18:55 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: Fishtalk
wait till this guy goes to the doctor and finds out he has to use up $2,500 worth of charges a year before his “subsidized” insurance kicks in, plus one grand of dough before a prescription is purchased. And when it DOES finally pay something, he will have to pay 30% of the bill.

Good morning. Good points all. According to some articles I have read, patients will be asked to pay the deductible up front before receiving services.

Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

When Barbara Retkowski went to a Cape Coral, Florida, health clinic in August to treat a blood condition, she figured the center would bill her insurance company. Instead, it demanded payment upfront. Earlier in the year, another clinic insisted she pay her entire remaining insurance deductible for the year -- more than $1,000 -- before the doctor would even see her.

The practice of upfront payment for non-emergency care has been spreading in the U.S. as deductibles rise. Now, the advent of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is likely to accelerate that trend.

Many of the plans offered through the law’s insurance exchanges have low initial premiums to attract customers, while carrying significant deductibles and other out-of-pocket cost sharing. The second-lowest tier of Obamacare plans in California, for example, carries a $2,000 annual deductible.

85 posted on 10/20/2013 8:22:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

One advantage of being referred to as a “problem” is to say you are NOT irrelevant. I believe they are all pretty twisted about the power of the people held up nicely in the Tea Party.

With leadership like Cruz and Lee already ensconced in office and determined, we have a meaningful future immediately ahead.

IF, we can remove McConnell and Graham, a titanic shift comes to the Surrender Caucus.


86 posted on 10/20/2013 8:24:00 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: kabar

I agree with you but add the lower quality of healthcare we are going to have because of fewer doctors and government mandates as to care. Putting government in bed with doctors can never be a good thing for patients. Nor can punishing some hospitals over policy and eliminating charitable hospitals because they cannot adhere to government guidelines in patient care.

0bamacare may tell people they are now covered by health insurance but there is no way 0bamacare can guarantee a doctor will be there to provide it.


87 posted on 10/20/2013 8:24:52 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Good point, and you just know most the Frank Luntz Focus Group folks are not aware of this reality too.


88 posted on 10/20/2013 8:25:02 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: kabar
E.J. Dionne appears to harbor a load of bitterness for the T-Party. He has zero use for us. Feeling is mutual, E.J.

What's your feeling, kabar, regarding the mid-terms and the cueing up of issues? Dems seem to win with debt limit/shutdown but their recent kicking the can just 3 months down the road doesn't set it up as a campaign issue.

Whereas, Obiecare will remain and perhaps grow as an issue throughout next year until it's repealed. '10 redux X 2, imho.

89 posted on 10/20/2013 8:28:05 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Paine in the Neck

ABC THIS WEEK has a segment with geniune T-Partiers from Ohio. I missed most of it, damn....looked pretty good.


90 posted on 10/20/2013 8:29:02 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Fishtalk

I agree - I cannot trust him either! I think he is sneaky and not trustworthy and that illegal immigration/amnesty is his true #1 goal. Sad for I had high hopes for him at one time.....


91 posted on 10/20/2013 8:29:31 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Right. And with 18 million added to Medicaid rolls due to Obamacare, access to doctors will be diminished even further. 40% of doctors don’t take Medicaid patients now because the reimbursement rates are so low. Add more users to a deteriorating system will only make matters worse.


92 posted on 10/20/2013 8:30:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
The only reason ABC is putting on Cruz vs Bush is to further divide the GOP.

I agree - the only thing more despicable then the surrender RINO's is the attempt of the dems (aka/ media) to capitalize on it. Bob Schiefer egging on McConnell -"What are you going to "DO" about Cruz"? "How are you going to handle him????" etc. etc.

93 posted on 10/20/2013 8:32:58 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: RitaOK

I agree with you Rita.

I listened all morning, dear Lord, John McCain, do they have to say we FAILED? Couldn’t they say we “postponed” the debate, which is what happened.

McCain says to Obama to the effect “Okay, you won, now let’s talk....” or words like that.

Obama won nothing. The can was pushed down the road although all the lamestream media says FAIL.

My point is, doesn’t anyone in the Republican party ever send out talking points? Do they have to say we FAILED, Obama WON?

Just like that, our former presidential nominee spits us on TV and....

....lookit, the Tea Party is here to stay, although we all know there is no physical TEA PARTY that you can touch.

They really hate us, they fear us.

We all, yon readers and you know who you are, do not care that they call us names and mock us. They look really silly.

And if the political elite think they’re going to roll out some malfunctioning health care behemoth on us and we’re going to take it sitting down.....

....all they did is take a break, suggested waiting till after the holidays....give America one last good holiday before the economy is wrecked. Then discuss it....

....nobody “won” anything.”

Obamacare was funded, yes, but it can be defunded or over-ridden later. They make their own talking points with that horror of an intro to the AFCA.

Just laugh at the silly political elite twits. They think they’re going to win this.

No they’re not.


94 posted on 10/20/2013 8:34:06 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
McCain took her under his wing....or something.

McCain's wing is the kiss of death. Too bad she won't realize that until it's too late.

95 posted on 10/20/2013 8:36:15 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Morgan in Denver

Re- less Doctors

My neighbor (and personal physician) is in his late fifties. He said he and many of his peers are considering retiring earlier than planned when Obamacare kicks in. Not only will they get paid even less, they expect a huge influx of patients which will overwhelm their resources.


96 posted on 10/20/2013 8:36:51 AM PDT by hillarynot (I play in Peoria)
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To: TomGuy
Looks like Rubio is trying to do a media rehab tour...

Rubio is done. He pissed in his own cornflakes. Having said that, who here does not think he was set up by McCain and Shyster..er I mean Schumer?

97 posted on 10/20/2013 8:39:51 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: hillarynot
He said he and many of his peers are considering retiring earlier than planned

I just lost a doctor (specialist) to unexpected retirement.

98 posted on 10/20/2013 8:40:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Son House

Nor are all those young Democrat supporters/voters who don’t realize what’s in store for them.

It will be honestly funny when some young 0bamacare patient gets to the emergency room only to be delayed over all the paperwork, deductibles and copays that have to be paid prior to their receiving care.

I can envision it now..... Quit screaming, sign here and write that check or bring out that credit card...... We’ll get to you sometime today or tomorrow.


99 posted on 10/20/2013 8:44:07 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Fishtalk
So I take a few moments to write the story of the little black cat.

I write this story because, well the story's not over yet. Frankly I don't know how it will end.

There's a rather unusual story about this cat, as background.

Currently she is about 15 years old. She's not young. Her name is Lisa.

She was a beloved cat to my husband, who died this past April. The only thing he asked of me before his death was to please take good care of the pets.

Billy loved cats and we always had at least four, most times six, once we had eight cats. Thus I am quite experienced in the dynamics of cats and this background has been very helpful in dealing with Lisa.

First, there's Lisa's hair.

I just do not know what to say about this cat and her hair except it's about the weirdest thing on the planet. Her hair is like cotton candy, I kid not. To comb it is almost impossible as it sticks together, gets tangled and hurts her. She tries desperately to groom herself and the other cats also helped her groom but alas even with human brushes, co-cats' tongues and her own ministrations, this cat's hair formed huge mats on her sides and belly and in due course she was like a burro, walking around with two "packs" of piles of mats hanging down each side in one big impossible to untangle mess. It looked exactly like foam.

We did everything in our human power to groom this cat but first, for whatever reason her hair was weird, so weird that even she could not groom herself even with the help of a bevy of cats.

And please do not think that Lisa herself tolerated a lot of human tugging and pulling in attempts to clear her mats. She bit and scratched and clawed and after a while we gave up.

There were times I used a craft straight razor to gets those mats off of her. Which, again, is not easy because that's a dangerous tool and her mats did get stuck to her very skin so sharp instruments often caused her as much harm as most anything. Once I even sliced open her entire belly region in an attempt to tear off a huge piece of foam-hair. It was a thin cut but fully six inches long. She spent ages in a corner licking and coaxing the sore to heal and eventually it did.

For most of her life Lisa has walked around with over three pounds of cat hair affixed to her and only when she began dropping turds all over the place due to the hair trap did I wrestle with clearing her up, at least her hind quarters.

The only thing to be done, seriously, about this cat's hair, was to have her put to sleep and rid her of the mats while she was under. Don't think a cat groomer or any other animal expert could get those mats off of Lisa but despite she's lived a very happy life despite her strange affliction.

Eventually Lisa began to lose weight and the big mat packs on her side began to disappear. The ministrations of the other cats evidently helped to clear her ageing mats. An old cat losing weight is nothing new. Cats often have teeth issues as they age and can't chew certain foods properly. We usually switch them over to a soft food when this happens and keep an eagle eye on the elderly feline to keep them as healthy, and comfortable, as possible.

After my husband died I had to establish a new relationship with the cats -before I'd always been the bad guy, the human who poked their ears for mites and combed the tangles. Now I was all they had and, tentatively, they approached me for food, love and care.

One morning I noticed Lisa weaving in place with a huge drop of….well snot I guess it was, hanging out of her nose. I picked her up and cleaned up the snot, then put her down. She could not walk hardly at all, in fact she walked sidewise and kept falling down, as if she were drunk.

I believe she had some kind of stroke.

I spent that day tending to Lisa, praying what to do. Snot kept hanging out of her nose, she kept walking sidewise, could not even stand up….I had to consider putting her down.

Anyone who's had pets has had to face this decision and so I pondered. Intriguingly, Lisa still was hungry and thirsty but was totally unable to walk to the food or water.

I decided I would tenderly deal with Lisa and come the time, we'd go to the Vet for the needle.

Because she was unable to walk I had to bring her little bowls of water and food by her cat bed and she did, God Bless, crooked and confused, manage to sip water and eat some Temptations.

Only something else was also very wrong with this cat.

She seemed unable to eat or drink.

Now my considerable experience with dying cats is once they become very ill they often go off into a corner and just sit till they die.

Not Lisa.

Old and crippled by a stroke and with obvious eating and drinking issues , Lisa meowed a soft croak every time I walked by. She ate the temptations and drank some water but I could see she was having trouble.

She was always hungry.

I did not want her to suffer so I decided, hey, I'm going to do everything I can for this cat and comes the time….well comes the time. Billy loved his cats but we knew when we had to end it. We've a backyard full of our beloved cat pet grave, even two dog graves.

Suddenly, just the strangest thing. Lisa, all her life, fifteen years, she begins to….well I know yon reader shall think me nuts, but she began to SING!

For 15 years Lisa never uttered a sound. Oh she had a raspy kind of whisper meow, we never knew why she couldn't make any noise but it was no matter. We recognized her rasp and often made fun of the sweet little thing, rasping to her owners for something or other.

Now the house was filled with …..hand to God, just the strangest, most beautiful, melodious sounds one ever heard coming from a cat, it was weird. Both daughter and granddaughter have heard Lisa with her new singing voice so I got witnesses. Her sounds were angelic, celestial, once she sat on my lap and made a sound exactly like...well like a butterfly, if a butterfly could make a sound.

I plopped Lisa on the counter and removed the rest of her mats, yes I did, for now she was so weak she couldn't fight me. Her poor tail was encased in some kind of mat mess and she couldn't even lift it. I figured out how to removed her trapped tail and combed her thorough.

She is by now of the beautiful singing, extremely thin, very, very thin, and I prayed for guidance. I wanted to keep her alive but not in a life filled with pain. Her sounds were not pain sounds, just an old cat finding out she could sing.

Lisa got better and better and now can walk fairly straight. It helped getting her tail out of its hair case. The snot kept coming out of her nose for a couple of days but in due course it stopped.

For many years this cat could not jump up on anything and, indeed, husband and I had to set up a special feeding/watering station for her on the floor, hidden, as we put up cats' food so dog won't get. Lisa could not jump to the cat food and water station.

All of a sudden Lisa began jumping everywhere! She jumped up on tables, she jumped up onto my bed, to my surprise for Lisa never came into my bedroom but now she jumped up and snuggled next to me, even PURRING!

She still has trouble eating but it gets better and better. She gets plenty of water and, hurray, she can now get up to the cats' feeding station and does not need a special spot on the floor.

As of now I think Lisa's going to live but I don't know how long. But she can eat and drink, though it's tough and her head still tilts sideways and she does still walk a little crooked.

The other day she even joined the other cats in a cat game and last week she had a bit of catnip.

I do think Lisa had a stroke or some kind of event.

I will keep her alive and comfortable as long as possible and I will know that I kept my promise to Billy to take care of the pets.

Meanwhile it's like I got a new kitten, jumping and singing and Lord help me, I have to lock the bedroom door at night to keep her out as she keeps me up all night with her "songs".

Lisa is not going softly into any good night.

I will do my best to take good care of her.

This is not to say she's going to pull through. I have to give her quite a bit of extra care plus keep doors closed that never was required before. The time may come when Lisa will have to be taken on a final trip to the Vet.

I'll know when the time is right. Meanwhile she gets better every day.

I call her the crazy little black cat.

Notice in the picture below, what looks like ugly skin or lumps on Lisa's side is really her matted fur that I cut with a garden shear to get off. Notice the mucous plus.


100 posted on 10/20/2013 8:46:13 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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