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Grenades ATF Allowed to 'Walk' Into Mexico Used to Kill Police
Townhall.com ^ | October 18, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/18/2013 9:49:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

ATF's gunwalking and grenade walking tactics have come back to haunt them...again. CBS Investigative Reporter Sharyl Attkisson has the scoop:

CBS News has learned of a shocking link between a deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexican police last week and a controversial case in the U.S. The link is one of the grenades used in the violent fight, which killed three policemen and four cartel members and was captured on video by residents in the area.

According to a Justice Department "Significant Incident Report" filed Tuesday and obtained by CBS News, evidence connects one of the grenades to Jean Baptiste Kingery, an alleged firearms trafficker U.S. officials allowed to operate for years without arresting despite significant evidence that he was moving massive amounts of grenade parts and ammunition to Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.

The gun battle took place last week in Guadalajara. Authorities say five members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel used at least nine firearms and ten hand grenades against Mexican police. If one of the grenades was supplied with the help of Kingery, as believed, it adds to the toll of lives taken with weapons trafficked by suspects U.S. officials watched but did not stop.

The incident report states, "Jalisco State Police Officers murdered during a shooting with members of the Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion in Tepatitlan, Jalisoc, MX. In the late hours of October 10, 2013, officers with the Jalisco State Police engaged in a shooting with members of the cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion in Tepatitlan, Jalisco. During the shooting, three Jalisco State Police Officers were killed, including the third in command of the Police Department, and three others were injured. Elements of the State Police received fire from a .50 caliber rifle and at least 10 hand grenades, the evidence of one being reported as a "Kingery" grenade. It is also being reported that nine firearms were recovered from the scene during the post incident search. ATF MCO is awaiting further information in order to submit urgent trace requests to the National Tracing Center as well as attempting to receive more information from contacts within the Jalisco Police Department."

Guadalajara is much further south in Mexico than places we've seen ATF linked weapons show up before. Most incidents involving the use of firearms or other weapons connected to ATF operations have been recovered in northern states like Chihuahua. Earlier this year, a police chief and his body guard were killed with Operation Fast and Furious weapons. Last year, a Mexican beauty queen was used as a human shield in a firefight and killed. Guns from Operation Fast and Furious were left at the crime scene.

In July, Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee Chuck Grassley sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder asking why the Department of Justice was failing to inform Congress of murders connected to DOJ operations.

"Since the beginning of this investigation, we have followed the link between Fast and Furious weapons and crimes committed on both sides of the border. On numerous occasions we have asked the Department to keep us apprised of Fast and Furious weapon recoveries -- especially as they relate to violent crimes," Grassley wrote. "Despite our repeated requests, it has been over a year since we last heard from the Department on this issue...such actions do little to promote trust between the Department and Congress, and only provide further evidence that the Department is actively trying to conceal all information pertaining to Fast and Furious from Congress."


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; benghazi; fastandfurious; grenadewalker; impeachnow; irs; opfastandfurious; sharylattkisson

1 posted on 10/18/2013 9:49:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Why ,.. this is all a misundertanding .. ! /sarc
Maybe another "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEDGE " will have to be offered !
2 posted on 10/18/2013 9:56:39 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Kaslin

This will probably get the same amount of attention that “Benghazi “ got from the media.
Perhaps this issue would be better addressed in the UN World Court on International Terrorism .


3 posted on 10/18/2013 10:03:23 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Kaslin

We’ll have a report from Issa on this in several years.

People need to be in jail over this.


4 posted on 10/18/2013 10:05:54 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Kaslin

At what point does it cease to be “walking” and become simple exportation.


5 posted on 10/18/2013 10:11:44 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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6 posted on 10/18/2013 10:13:46 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Flag_This

That would have been when Nero and Holder took over...


7 posted on 10/18/2013 10:15:11 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Kaslin

The grenade part is going to be tougher for the Barry admin to side line. There wont be any FFLs to frame for that one. These could only be supplied via govt sources — military contracts and corrupt federal LE (which would be all of them).


8 posted on 10/18/2013 10:15:57 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Kaslin

Spanish speaking GOP ought to be all over South Texas explaining who it is and how it is that US supplied munitions are killing Mexicans’ family and friends by the hundreds across the Rio Grande.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 10:15:59 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Kaslin
ATF's gunwalking and grenade walking tactics have come back to haunt them...again

misnomer!! The ATF and this administration DO NOT CARE who dies in the US or in Mexico resulting from their arms walking crimes as long as they themselves aren't taken out.

10 posted on 10/18/2013 10:17:22 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder
The ATF and this administration DO NOT CARE who dies in the US or in Mexico resulting from their arms walking crimes

It's worse than they don't care. The whole purpose of F&F was to pump up gun crime statistics in Mexico. For it to work that means gun crimes had to be committed. That was it's intended result. You don't get increased gun crime statistics unless the guns you supply are used for murder and mayhem. Obama, Clinton and Holder deliberately supplied guns to the cartels for the intended purpose that they be used to kill and injure so that US gun dealers could be blamed. To these malignant scum, Mexican lives were expendible to suit their political aim of destroying the second amendment.

11 posted on 10/18/2013 10:40:40 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: headstamp 2
"a report from Issa" lazy bum photo: LAZY BUM myfavplace.jpg Here's Darrell hard at work, whipping snakes ....
12 posted on 10/18/2013 10:42:07 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: drypowder

True.

In order for these killings to “haunt” them, they would have to CARE about the people who were killed, and they would need to feel shame and/or guilt for the misdeeds they have perpetrated.


13 posted on 10/18/2013 10:45:18 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine

Ping.


14 posted on 10/18/2013 10:55:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Kaslin

The neat thing about FR is that I read about the grenades here months ago.


15 posted on 10/18/2013 10:57:06 AM PDT by marron
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To: Kaslin

Imagine the hysteria the “news” media would whip up if this happened under Bush.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 11:47:52 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin
If Mexico doesn't care if Obama arms the cartels to murder their cops and citizens, then I don't are either!

But when those cartels murder our border patrol with those weapons, I just don't expect anything to be done.

17 posted on 10/18/2013 12:27:15 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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