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Bullard Refiles Bill To Change Stand Your Ground, Says It Goes Further Than ‘Tweak’
WFSU ^ | October 16, 2013 | Sascha Cordner

Posted on 10/17/2013 9:41:27 AM PDT by Q-ManRN

That’s why Bullard says he refiled a bill that aims to, in his words, “tie up any loose ends that most Floridians are concerned about.” That includes explicitly defining that an aggressor is someone engaged in an overt act of violence, such as brandishing a weapon…

“...but, it would also again switch up that aggressor language so that one could not be provoked and then upon provocation, choose to defend themselves. And, then the person who did the provoking is able to use deadly force—that little loophole is what led to the unfortunate acquittal of George Zimmerman,” he added.

The “aggressor” term is not fully defined in Simmons and Smith’s bill—though Smith says he’s working to get that included in the finished product.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida; floridalegislature; guncontol; secondamendment
Liberal gun control fantasies continue even in the Florida state legislature:

1. Trayvon Martin was provoked into beating up George Zimmerman.

2. Provocation is based purely upon one person's perception of a situation instead of the actual circumstances and events. So, just looking at someone in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable or wronged is sufficient provocation to beat up someone.

3. The aggressor is defined by the presence of a weapon rather than by a person's intentions and actions.

This bill will define anyone who uses a gun as a criminal automatically while criminals can use the "they said or did something that offended me" line as a defense to justify assault, battery, and murder.

Isn't fantasy land great? You just make up your own version of reality and everyone else is forced by law to go along.

1 posted on 10/17/2013 9:41:27 AM PDT by Q-ManRN
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To: gonzo; MinuteGal; M Kehoe; mcmuffin; Matchett-PI; Seeking the truth; JulieRNR21; surfer; ...

Liberal gun control fantasies continue in the Florida state legislature.


2 posted on 10/17/2013 9:45:35 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

So if you “dis” someone, and they start beating your head in, you “provoked” them and are no longer eligible to defend your life.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 9:46:08 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Q-ManRN; Travis McGee
Bullard Refiles Bill To Change Stand Your Ground, Says It Goes Further Than ‘Tweak’

Sheesh, talk about life imitating art! Please tell me his first name isn't Bob.

4 posted on 10/17/2013 9:48:04 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Zimmerman didn’t use the “stand your ground” law. He based his defense on classic self-defense.

But they keep trotting this out because from day one the Left has been determined to get rid of this law and have used any propaganda tool they can find including outright falsehoods.


5 posted on 10/17/2013 9:48:27 AM PDT by marron
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Florida Freeper


6 posted on 10/17/2013 9:49:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Q-ManRN

don’t kid yourself....tray was going to use syg...what do you think the chick was for...coooborate his stalking defense. from what I could tell from her testimony...she’d been through tray’s routine before.


7 posted on 10/17/2013 9:50:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mrsmel
So if you “dis” someone, and they start beating your head in, you “provoked” them and are no longer eligible to defend your life.

Sounds like the Amish Protection Act of 2013. Course, that may be the exact intent, depending on how insane this particular lib is. Being overly sensitive to dissing is a trait of libs in general, but seems especially pronounced among [some of] the Amish.

8 posted on 10/17/2013 9:51:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Q-ManRN
That racist White guy mean mugged me and my eight homies, so I was provoked to defend myself by smashing his head in with my baseball bat.

Then his ho mean mugged us again, so...

9 posted on 10/17/2013 9:53:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: mrsmel
"So if you “dis” someone, and they start beating your head in, you “provoked” them and are no longer eligible to defend your life."

It's worse than that. If someone "thinks" you dissed him, whether you objectively did or not, they you can't defend yourself when he attacks you for the imagined "dis".

10 posted on 10/17/2013 9:53:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

True, and the mere hint of an accusation by one of the tribe carries the weight of law.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 9:57:05 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Q-ManRN

GZ still would be acquitted. TM ended his cellphone call with girlfriend when he told her he was very near to the condo and he already lost GZ. Per cellphone record/timeline, the moment TM closed his cellphone, GZ was just getting out of his SUV after he ended his cellphone call with 911. At that moment TM is near his girlfriends condo, GZ was faraway on the road that is around the row of condos to where TM was located. Cops arrive to find TM had moved away from the condo and headed toward GZ after he told his girlfriend he lost him. It is not hard to establish that TM decided to go look for GZ to settle the insult of being followed by him. Once TM goes looking for GZ he is now the aggressor and the one that was re escalating a situation.


12 posted on 10/17/2013 10:02:45 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Still Thinking

No way!


13 posted on 10/17/2013 10:05:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Still Thinking
Bob Bullard's brother-in-law Dwight.


14 posted on 10/17/2013 10:07:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Q-ManRN

Sure. George Zimmerman provoked Lil’ Skittles by grabbing Skittles’ hands, smashing them against Zimmerman’s face and bashing his head against the sidewalk.

Got in a similar fight once myself. I bruised this guy’s knuckles with my nose and dislocated his knee with my groin.


15 posted on 10/17/2013 10:08:52 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: mrsmel
Yep! And you provoked them by being there. To illustrate} You being a woman are somewhere, where is not important. A man walks up to you and says, "I am going to rape you now." You either scream, or say no you are not, and reach for your gun or other self defense apparatus, rather than begin disrobing. You by your actions have now provoked this criminal, leaving him no other choice [according to this law]than to beat you within an inch of your life and then do as he said he intended. You, on the other hand. Should you shoot,kill or otherwise injure him, would be subject to criminal charges.

What they intend to do is make it impossible for a law abiding citizen to defend him/herself from the attacks of the criminal.

16 posted on 10/17/2013 10:12:21 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, I’m sorry but I’ve reached a conclusion — you must stop writing. Like 1984 and Atlas Shrugged, the left reads them and believes they’re intended as instruction manuals. Look — they went so far as to go dig up a guy named Bullard!


17 posted on 10/17/2013 10:23:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Why are FL legislators twerking on the payroll, anyway?

Oh, it says tweaking. Never mind...


18 posted on 10/17/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: antidisestablishment

They shouldn’t be doing that either! (either the drug kind or the tyranny kind)


19 posted on 10/17/2013 10:27:54 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

LOL!


20 posted on 10/17/2013 10:29:42 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Fee

You are assuming that facts actually matter to liberals. That is why fantasy works so well for them.


21 posted on 10/17/2013 10:32:25 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN
...that little loophole is what led to the unfortunate acquittal of George Zimmerman

No need to read more; we all know where this one is coming from (and going).

22 posted on 10/17/2013 10:37:58 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Navy Patriot
That racist White guy mean mugged me and my eight homies...

Then his ho mean mugged us again, so...

By "mean mugged" I assume you mean "looked at me funny"?

23 posted on 10/17/2013 10:40:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
By "mean mugged" I assume you mean "looked at me funny"?

Yep, that be the expression.

24 posted on 10/17/2013 10:43:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: circlecity
It's worse than that. If someone "thinks" you dissed him, whether you objectively did or not, they you can't defend yourself when he attacks you for the imagined "dis".

Pre-emptive self defense requires that if you think that he thinks you dissed him, you must attack and disable him before it becomes necessary to ward off an assault.

25 posted on 10/17/2013 10:44:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: mrsmel

What’s the article say? I can’t read cursive.


26 posted on 10/17/2013 10:59:23 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: marron

The libs want everyone dependent upon the government and the police to protect them. They do not want private citizens to be able to use deadly force with a firearm at all to defend themselves. Thus, getting rid of SYG laws is just a first step in that process using falsehoods.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 12:13:24 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: mrsmel

Dissing someone is just being white and breathing in many places.


28 posted on 10/17/2013 12:38:40 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

My experiences have been a bit different, I guess. Numerous dummies have volunteered to be in a quiet, safe jail cell, rather than wearing themselves out trying to climb my mountain. Just think quick Marine linebacker with zero sense of humor for Trayvon style punks——Semper Fi


29 posted on 10/17/2013 1:27:01 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

Thanks for your service. I could never have done it.


30 posted on 10/17/2013 1:33:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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