Posted on 10/17/2013 8:45:51 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
Governor Rick Perry was once alleged to have stated that Texas could secede in the future. But he now states he opposes succession:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2012/11/13/rick-perry-texas-secession-petition/1702359/
If the different states were to become different nations, the federal government would cease to exist. That means that the federal debt would be reduced to Zero. But the price that Americans would pay, would be the loss of super power status. Would Americans be better off or worse off, if the states were to become different countries?
I try to avoid loaning money to deadbeats, myself.
This is a fantasy scenario. Interesting conversation, but secession is not going to happen.
To headline: yes
One thing about the left, it’s engrained in their ideology to absolutely crush/kill/exterminate anyone that resists or tries to escape the effects of leftism.
If the union were to break up, the federal debt would not be reduced to zero as those who hold paper on US debt would still want their money and no credit would be extended to the new nations.
Their only option would be to print a worthless currency that would be subject to hyperinflation the moment it was printed.
By original design, each state was supposed to be as like its own “country” with the federal bond of the republic only to have impact on a few issues such as common defence, trade, you know, stuff actually listed in the Constitution.
“: would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?”
Yes, but from where would they draw the soldiers and materials? The north no longer has the men, money, and machines it had in 1861.
“No. If that happened, Washington would use nukes against the rogue states. “
Washington does not have total control over nukes. It doesn’t work that way.
The populations are too mixed these days anyway.
A few ignorant blowhards who declare people from above or below a certain latitude to be the enemy destroy any hope of success right from the start.
If a state were to arm itself with nuclear weapons and then tell the people of the cities of Boston and New York City that they're the first order of business in any war to prevent secession...then I expect the liberal statists to cave instantly.
Here’s the thing, there will be no CWII
If the world and investors believed that a state (or states) was potentially going to secede from the Union and the United States could actually break up, the economy and the dollar would collapse so fast that panic would ensue and city Liberals will turn on each other and burn their own cities down
There would be so much chaos that Obama or Hillary or whomever wouldn’t have the ability to stop the secession.
Though secession might be pointless after that as there will be so much bloodshed, Liberals would have thinned much of their population out. Rural Conservatives meanwhile would have just passed the popcorn and waited it out and can come back in and pick up the pieces.
Your post is correct....and profoundly depressing....
A breakup of The United States would be more complex than individual states going their own way. Urban vs rural vs suburbs, liberal regions vs conservative, etc. A large state like Texas with the resources to operate without Washington could pull it off, and could lead other like minded states with it. States where the divide between the democrat controlled cities and conservative hinterlands is greater would have a big problem going it alone.
“I would leave this rathole of a state and join it.”
Is it the entire State or just the cities? I usually find ratholes are just that, holes in the States we know as cities.
Reps folded to gain favor with the media and moderates, they should know from years of experience that they will get none.
Note that in Syria the Al Queda terrorists set off a poison gas bomb or two, and blamed it on the Syrian government forces.
That ambiguity in responsibility will be in play in any insurrection. What is not ambiguous is the illegal nature of violent insurrection.
Even Texas would have to wall off Austin, Houston, and plan on mass murder behind its lines. When people propose insurrection, you should know that is their intent.
I guess you also note that a successful insurrection would require mass murder.
Keep in mind that oppressive taxation is less evil than mass murder.
I beg to differ. The president does have total control, and people in the chain of command are constantly vetted for their readiness to follow his orders.
I'm in Louisiana .I and others here are talking about how to do it
some of us are here:
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