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Republicans Back Down, Ending Crisis Over Shutdown and Debt Limit
NYT ^ | Oct. 16, 2013 | By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER

Posted on 10/16/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by lonestar67

Edited on 10/17/2013 6:40:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON — Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law as the House and Senate approved last-minute legislation ending a disruptive 16-day government shutdown and extending federal borrowing power to avert a financial default with potentially worldwide economic repercussions.

With the Treasury Department warning that it could run out of money to pay national obligations within a day, the Senate voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday evening, 81 to 18, to approve a proposal hammered out by the chamber’s Republican and Democratic leaders after the House on Tuesday was unable to move forward with any resolution. The House followed suit a few hours later, voting 285 to 144 to approve the Senate plan, which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.

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1 posted on 10/16/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: lonestar67
Names.

/johnny

3 posted on 10/16/2013 7:17:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lonestar67

Compromise? What effing Compromise???

The Rats got everything they wanted.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 7:18:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lonestar67
GOP 142 NO , only 87 Yes.

I take it Boner and Kantor are the new Democrat leadership of the House.

5 posted on 10/16/2013 7:18:19 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: lonestar67
"House passes senate budget compromise"

Since when is a traitorous gang rape of the United States considered a "compromise"?

6 posted on 10/16/2013 7:18:56 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Pelosi still is the real leader of the House.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 7:19:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JRandomFreeper

Let’s see who needs to be primaried.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 7:19:18 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: lonestar67

87 Rs Yes
143 Rs No

198 Ds Yes

285-144

2 Ds and 1 R havent voted yet

a slaughter

it got so noisy in the House I thought they would come to blows..


9 posted on 10/16/2013 7:20:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

So much for the Hastert rule huh?
Boner said he would follow it from now on.
What a lying sack of $h!+!!


10 posted on 10/16/2013 7:20:44 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: dfwgator
Still waiting to hear about the FAR LEFT "faction" in congress.

(crickets)

11 posted on 10/16/2013 7:21:09 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Carl Vehse

The Republicans have agreed to stop hitting the Democrats fists with their faces.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 7:21:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Yep. I made a promise to a politician today that if she voted for this, I'd walk my shoes flat trying to get her primaried.

Unlike politicians, I keep my promises.

/johnny

13 posted on 10/16/2013 7:21:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: dfwgator

That’s exactly what I said this morning..the Dems got EVERYTHING they wanted..its the same damn bill from yesterday except the cronies are still exempt from Obamacare


14 posted on 10/16/2013 7:21:40 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ConservativeInPA
Let’s see who needs to be primaried.

Plenty of them....but we need some Conservative candidates who can win. We don't want to trade in a RINO for a dem.
15 posted on 10/16/2013 7:23:38 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Why do we even bother? Seriously wanting to take everything I’ve got and go to Panama. Only my love of my family stops me.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 7:24:02 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And it’s all such bullshit - there, I said it. Unlimited debt ceiling, McConnell either gets his pork or his is hit by pork by the Rats trying to take him out.

NO MESSAGE DISCIPLINE - hell, NO MESSAGE. Complete cave-in at the last chance to rein in the Socialist agenda.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 7:24:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: Aria

I was listening to Robin Leach today, he’s a great human being God bless him..he was telling Stuart Varney how he came here over 40 years ago for the American dream, to get away from Socialism, which is just another tame way of saying Communism, he said look at America right now, he said its very close to becoming the Communist country he ran away from..look around, we are almost there and it scares the hell out of me


18 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:30 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lonestar67

“Chad Pergram; @ChadPergram
Protester dragged off House floor. Apparently one of the stenographers from the dais.”

Anyone see this?


19 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:32 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Now on to “repeat and rinse” immigration amnesty.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:43 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: Girlene
Plenty of them....but we need some Conservative candidates who can win. We don't want to trade in a RINO for a dem

wrong Wrong WRONG.....

21 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

All the RINOs must be voted out. It’s the only way I can see going forward.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Carl Vehse

Since stuff like the Munich Agreement, but I digress.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 7:27:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mrsmith

Huh? A stenographer was protesting?


24 posted on 10/16/2013 7:27:25 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: lonestar67

They sold us out. 285 members voted yes.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 7:27:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: spokeshave

If Amnesty happens its adios America..that will be the final nail in the coffin of the GOP, they will never win another election again..I think those elitists in the GOP know this, they just dont care


26 posted on 10/16/2013 7:27:48 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dfwgator

That’s compromise to a Democrat.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 7:27:50 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And McConnell’s Kentucky pork added as well. no wonder he agreed to this ‘compromise’.

Bought and paid for. He needs ro go away.


28 posted on 10/16/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Technically there is no communism; it’s a false bait to try to get people to fall for totalitarian socialism, which was supposed to be the middle step between capitalism and communism.


29 posted on 10/16/2013 7:28:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Girlene

>> We don’t want to trade in a RINO for a dem.

I will enthusiastically vote against the RINO representing my district in the primary or general if necessary.

I guess we gotta pass through Hell.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 7:28:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Girlene
Plenty of them....but we need some Conservative candidates who can win. We don't want to trade in a RINO for a dem.

With the exception of New Yorker, Peter King.

31 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:12 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: conservaKate

The politicians get their perks, what do they care?


32 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: conservaKate

McConnell sold himself out for money..gee..there are women on the street corners of Hollywood doing that same thing every night, we call them hookers..but I have more respect for them than the likes of McConnell


33 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm with you. I have made the same promise today, but multiple times in the last year.

As a side note, I am watching Hannity and there is a Congressman that cannot speak the American language. I will withhold any river crossing comments because I really don't know where he came from.

34 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:22 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: mrsmith
“Chad Pergram; @ChadPergram Protester dragged off House floor. Apparently one of the stenographers from the dais.” Anyone see this?

Yes I saw it, while watching on CSPAN. She was escorted out very quickly by two large men.

35 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:35 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: lonestar67
Mister Boehner.

We, the constituents of the GOP …

…ENTHUSIASTICALLY accept…

… your RESIGNATION as Speaker of the House!

(Please submit same forthwith.)

.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:36 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: tennmountainman

It’s all give and take. Our side gives up everything and the Dems take it.


37 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Girlene

I bet it ends up being GOP Rino’s and Liberal Rats that carried this vote.


38 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:56 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: dfwgator; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...
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Compromise? What effing Compromise???

The Rats got everything they wanted.

Remember this on election day. Also, please do not donate to RINO political candidates.

39 posted on 10/16/2013 7:29:58 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Tennessee Nana
87 Repubs voted Yes, 144 Repubs voted No, 197 Dems voted yes 0 Dems voted no.

The GOP could have easily defeated this.

A large majority of repubs voted against it. Boehner violated the Hastert rule and led a minority of Repubs to side with the Dems to give in on this critical fight.

Since Boehner broke the Hastert rule, then the GOP conservative should rebel in the House against Boehner and vote him out as the Speaker and replace him with a conservative Speaker willing to do battle and take Obama to the mat.

In fact the GOP should take the following line in talking to Obama.

"Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold, and we have decided to use those votes.

"We control government funduing and we are going to exercise that control.

"We are talking about a complete shutdown where not so much as a dime will be available for you to even heat the White House, so get ready to stay at the local Holiday Inn on your own dime for the duration. Also, tell Michelle she can send her 100+ assistants home to, and weed her own garden.

"The only thing we will fund during that time is the US military you hate so much.

"When you are ready to talk about seriously creating a budget...one that is balanced, one that really reduces the debt...and we are talking about a true reduction in the actual amount we owe, not just a reduction in the percentage of your spending increases...and a budget we that puts an end to ObamCare. When you are ready to seriously talk to us about those things...get back with us.

"Oh, BTW, Barry. One other thing we will fund is the following. The House of Reprentatives will meet each day with the express purpose of impeaching your sorry backside each day for the next 60 working days. Impeach you each day on a different charge. 60 impeachments, Barry. When you get ready to talk to us, then the first thing the Senate will have to take up is those 60 impeachments. Think about that while you are waiting, and watching.

"So, we have the votes, and we are firm. Give us a call when you are ready to talk. Bye now."
That's the discussion a real Speaker of the House should be having with Obama.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

40 posted on 10/16/2013 7:30:28 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"GOP 142 NO"

Lots of GOPe/RINO closest dwellers ducking for cover in that number.

41 posted on 10/16/2013 7:31:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Girlene

Beat’s me, wasn’t paying much attention.
I just saw the tweet.

“Roll call vote not available” but will be- here:
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2013&rollnumber=550&TB_iframe=true&height=400&width=650


42 posted on 10/16/2013 7:31:23 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: lonestar67

roll call? names of republicans that caved


43 posted on 10/16/2013 7:31:27 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Paladin2

Sheltering in place, they are.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 7:31:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"GOP 142 NO"

Lots of GOPe/RINO closet dwellers ducking for cover in that number.

45 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yep. That’s the truth.


46 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:28 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Olog-hai

People have bought into the Karl Marx philosophy..people want whatever they can get their hands on for “Free.” You see the people storming Walmart when the EBT cards were not working, they took whatever they could get into their carts and ran out the door..these kind of people dont want jobs, they want freebies, they want to steal..probably laughed their way back home after getting all that loot..those are the kinds of people that vote Democrat


47 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:42 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Paladin2
They can run, but they can't hide.

/johnny

48 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lonestar67

Ryan is on the floor offering some sort of strange amendment.


49 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:49 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Seaplaner

I think of the letter the citizens of Rock Ridge wrote to Governor Lepetomaine in Blazing Saddles...

So borrowing loosely from that....

“The fact that you voted for this goes to prove that you are the leading asshole in the Congress!”


50 posted on 10/16/2013 7:32:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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