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ObamaCare Site Creator: 'People Fainting In Conference Calls'
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | October 16, 2013 | John Nolte

Posted on 10/16/2013 4:23:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

CGI Federal is the Canadian IT contractor responsible for creating most of the ObamaCare website. Tuesday, after describing the site as a "complete train wreck," the Washington Post took an in-depth look at the company -- its origins, track record, and how it landed the ObamaCare contract. It is all worth a read, but one staffer told the Post that the working environment at CGI is so awful today that "People are getting sick, fainting in conference calls."

The healthcare.gov debacle has taken its toll on the working environment at CGI Federal's 10-story complex in Fairfax, Va., according to a staffer working on a related project who asked not to be named. "There's been a lot of agitation and anger, because CGI really prides itself on having family flexibility," he said, noting the firm's liberal telework policy. Instead, the Obamacare contract has sucked more and more staff off other projects, and people have been working around the clock to first get the site ready for Oct. 1, and then fix it when things started to go wrong. "There's a lot of frustration," the staffer said. "People are getting sick, fainting in conference calls."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: canada; cgifederal; cgigroup; economy; h1b; healthcaredotgov; india; internet; medicine; obamacare; obamacarerollout; obamacaresoftware; outsourcing

1 posted on 10/16/2013 4:23:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Po’ babies. Give ‘em a pacifier to suck on.

Freaking criminals.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 4:25:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people deserve their millions, and the billions
in pensions they will get, and the royalties,
ALL TO BE SHARED WITH CONGRESS. [/s]


3 posted on 10/16/2013 4:26:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Windflier

I heard from an informed source that their maximum programmer hiring age is 12 and the kid must have a minimum of 300 hours playing GTA!


4 posted on 10/16/2013 4:27:24 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5 posted on 10/16/2013 4:27:25 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“People are getting sick....fainting on conference calls.” Hope they signed up for some of that free government health care!


6 posted on 10/16/2013 4:28:17 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gosh, that's terrible . . . maybe they could visit a government website, or something?

(full disclosure: I've been through crappy product launches, and I do feel for those who take pride in their work)

7 posted on 10/16/2013 4:28:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting story, and surprisingly negative considering the WaPo source.

Someone on here said one of the companies that CGI bought was intimately connected to the Clinton Crime Family.


8 posted on 10/16/2013 4:28:39 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should be fainting. Bammy and his boys will soon be looking for scapegoats. This train wreck can’t be their fault. Noooosirrrreee.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 4:29:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"People are getting sick, fainting in conference calls."

Obamacare's first victims.

10 posted on 10/16/2013 4:30:51 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Folks, I’m telling you, I am NOT upset the GOP didn’t get the one year delay. I’m telling you, America is going to HATE OBAMACARE and the RATs own it !!!!


11 posted on 10/16/2013 4:32:17 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: blueunicorn6

Obamacare+SSDI...a win-win situation! /s;)


12 posted on 10/16/2013 4:35:06 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: nascarnation

Toni Townes-Whitley of CGI, also was a classmate of Michelle Obama from the Princeton Class of 1985.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/3078942/posts?page=23


13 posted on 10/16/2013 4:36:36 PM PDT by research99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard they passed out when they were told they might have to stay until 5:15


14 posted on 10/16/2013 4:37:02 PM PDT by American Guesser
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To: Windflier
Freaking criminals.

My guess is the company has incompetent managers. Bringing new people on to a project that is behind schedule and in a crisis doesn't mean higher productivity. Neither does longer hours.

15 posted on 10/16/2013 4:37:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see, their primary mission would seem to be family flexibility and telework policies. Now they are frustrated at all the negative pressure and some are even fainting during conference calls. People are actually being called in to work, doubtless placing great strain on social plans.

I think I can see at least part of the problem here. Of course, I’m coming from an old fashioned perspective where you had to actually produce a product that works at a competitive price.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 4:37:37 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Husseincare covers that.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 4:42:01 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m guessing the BP guys who were trying to figure out how to cap the blown-out well (Deepwater Horizon?) in the Gulf a few years ago were under a lot more stress.


18 posted on 10/16/2013 4:46:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nascarnation

Wasn’t CGI the contractors associated with “The Innocence of Muslims” fake video? There was a guy on YT that tied it together if anyone has it.


19 posted on 10/16/2013 4:48:24 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Feds reviewed only one bid for Obamacare website design

Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services' Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.

CMS officials are tight-lipped about why CGI was chosen or how it happened. They also refuse to say if other firms competed with CGI, or if there was ever a public solicitation for building Healthcare.gov, the backbone of Obamacare’s problem-plagued web portal.

Instead, it appears they used what amounts to a federal procurement system loophole to award the work to the Canadian firm.

CGI was one of 16 companies that had been qualified by HHS during President George W. Bush's second term to deliver, without public competition, a variety of hardware, software and communication products and services.

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CGI was a much smaller vendor when it was approved by HHS in 2007. With the approval, CGI became eligible for multiple awards without public notice and in circumvention of the normal competitive bidding procurement process.

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CGI is a relatively new company in the United States. Its Canadian executives grew their corporate U.S. presence through major acquisitions of U.S. companies.

The first acquisition came in 2004 when CGI purchased American Management Systems Inc. for $858 million in a cash tender offer that covered existing federal IT contracts in healthcare, financial services, and communications work.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 4:50:01 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: research99

Good catch. Cronyism always wins out in DC.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 4:50:58 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ditto, absolutely.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 4:51:46 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘People Fainting In Conference Calls’

Quick, convene a panel to see if they should be resuscitated!


23 posted on 10/16/2013 4:54:04 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Frank_2001

“You know, Harry, it’s getting to be really expensive to pay people to vote Democrat. What with the private sector unions declining, it’s hard for the Democrat party to come up with the money to buy enough votes to win. And I can’t lose! I don’t know how to work!”

“Don’t worry, Nancy. We’ll get the working people to pay to buy our votes.”

“Oh Harry, you always say the sweetest things!”


24 posted on 10/16/2013 4:54:13 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

25 posted on 10/16/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been around large software projects in my former career. When they go bad and it becomes an all hands on deck for months on end. They called them “Death Marches”.

This one has them ALL of those combined. Needs a complete redesign, not a bunch of bandaids. People will start quitting there soon, guaranteed.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 4:56:32 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: 11th_VA

I think it will end up like Maine’s former “Dirigo”.

Although proponents of the legislation that set up Dirigo Health projected that it could cover 31,000 previously uninsured Maine residents in its first year, the actual figure through the program’s first twelve months was 8,600.[8] After fifteen months, enrollment had grown to 9,800; an additional 4,900 people had enrolled in the Medicaid expansion. Anthem, the initial carrier for DirigoChoice[9], says that enrollment rates for the program are significantly higher than other new insurance programs.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 5:04:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: SueRae
People will start quitting there soon, guaranteed.

Yup. The best will be the first.

28 posted on 10/16/2013 5:06:22 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Moonman62

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out a lot of the peoblems came from Obama’s people changing their minds and adding new “ideas” along the way. I’m not ready to lay all the blame at CGIs door.


29 posted on 10/16/2013 5:06:42 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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ObamaWare!


30 posted on 10/16/2013 5:08:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Moonman62

My guess is that this is an impossible project. You can be competent but if your client isn’t..


31 posted on 10/16/2013 5:11:08 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: SueRae
Needs a complete redesign, not a bunch of bandaids.

I was an IT professional, asked to be a liaison to the police department to check on the progress of contractors putting together an incident reporting system for patrol cars, near the end of the implementation. Of course, the contractors held everything close to their chest siting confidentiality clauses. They held classes for cops at the police academy for instruction on it's use. I sat in on a class at a computer. Within ten minutes I had gotten around all their security and took control of the system including the servers, all from within their own software screens. They weren't pleased to see all their flaws exposed before they could cut and run. Happened often with contractors, pretending to know what they were doing when they delivered crap.

32 posted on 10/16/2013 5:13:28 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet another software project failure for the textbooks. Stupid, stupid management AND techies.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 5:22:09 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: Chaguito

> Quick, convene a panel to see if they should be resuscitated!

Yeah, schedule a meeting about the difficult meetings.

Our culture is so hosed.


34 posted on 10/16/2013 5:24:15 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “under the table payments” to political cronies should be Cruz’ talking points. Someone made a lot of money off this.


35 posted on 10/16/2013 5:39:30 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I dunno, but they were associated with the failed Canadian long gun registry.

CC

36 posted on 10/16/2013 5:47:03 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article says that CGI got “$88 million of the hundreds of millions spent to create the ObamaCare website”. Who got the rest?


37 posted on 10/16/2013 5:53:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They forgot to read The Mythical Man-Month:
Adding people to a late project will always make the project later.
38 posted on 10/16/2013 6:20:00 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Actually it was many companies involved. Here's a link to the Government Accounting Office report (dated June 2013) and the list of companies involved in the debacle. The contractors begin on page 35 I believe.
healthcare.gov website contractors
39 posted on 10/16/2013 7:08:40 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: SueRae
I’ve been around large software projects in my former career. When they go bad and it becomes an all hands on deck for months on end. They called them “Death Marches”.

This one has them ALL of those combined. Needs a complete redesign, not a bunch of bandaids. People will start quitting there soon, guaranteed.


I'm a former EDSer. SED Program. Am VERY familiar with death marches, on the last one (several months long) I was one of the early ones to join a team that ballooned up to about 50. When I left the company (having figured out a way to carve out time to interview) there were less than 10 left.

So yeah, the good people are going to quit. They won't be replaced by good people - if replaced at all (working on government contracts, especially ones that may require clearances, takes considerable time from offer/acceptance to EOD/Entry on Duty).

In the meantime, we're now heading into the holidays. Which is usually black-out time for releases of big Federal projects. Sure, ObamaCare will get waivers, but rescinding vacations is going to drive even more attrition of contractor staff. Government staff has shifted to being project managers and contracting/acquisitions officials. Not code-slingers. There's not going to be a way to easily (let alone quickly) backfill the staff losses.

There's no way that this thing is getting fixed within the next 18 months.
40 posted on 10/16/2013 7:19:52 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Bookmark


41 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:53 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The key is to learn the left wing nutcase method, give a damn with your right hand and take it back with your left, then you can just keep right on giving a damn and bragging about how compassionate you are. If anyone points out that you keep taking back the damn that you just gave call them names like “intolerant”, “uncaring”, “racist” etc.


42 posted on 10/17/2013 7:38:02 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Moonman62

“My guess is the company has incompetent managers. Bringing new people on to a project that is behind schedule and in a crisis doesn’t mean higher productivity. Neither does longer hours.”
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Either of those sounds wrong other than the fact that sometimes a new person sees something that the old hands are looking past but that is a faint hope. Longer hours are all wrong, I spent two decades running my own business which involved troubleshooting machinery after working more than a decade for others including Uncle Sam doing electronic, electrical and mechanical repair. Some of the best advice I ever got is that if you haven’t identified the problem within two hours take a break, have a cup of coffee, talk about the weather, when you come back you often see what you had been missing. If you keep on pushing past the fatigue point you may spend all day looking right past what is under your nose.


43 posted on 10/17/2013 7:46:47 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

I can tell you haven’t worked in software development.


44 posted on 10/17/2013 10:12:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Off to the FEMA camps with them.


45 posted on 10/17/2013 10:19:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Moonman62

Truly, I have not, what was your first clue;>)


46 posted on 10/17/2013 10:23:16 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

Your lack of experience qualifies you for a management job, but you’ll have to lose the attitude about not working people to death. Come up with an idea that coders who take bathroom breaks get fired, and you will be in an executive suite in no time.


47 posted on 10/17/2013 10:37:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Great, I have always wondered what it is like to be one of those top executives who lacks the applicable background required to distinguish between his nether anatomy and a mineshaft. Where do I apply?


48 posted on 10/17/2013 6:49:54 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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